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Why not both?SB MVP is a way better award
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Mac keeps making plays like that TD rope to Bourne and there will be plenty of flash in his portfolio. That was a big boy play, on both ends.
And Barmore might be defensive rookie of the year.
Not to mention Rhamondre Stevenson.
But Bill can't draft.
After his 201 yard game he might have been on the verge of the league MVP conversation. He was the Bengals offense.Any other year, Jones would be a lock right now. But Chase is on pace for a historic rookie season.
QB's will always get an edge because of how difficult (and rare) it is for a rookie to play well right away. But Chase is on pace for over 1500 yards (just under if you think of it over 16 games for equal comparisons). Those are hard numbers to ignore.
Now, it's VERY possible (even likely) that Chase slows down as the long season wears on, the weather gets colder, and teams start to focus on him more. But right now, I agree he's got a slight edge over Mac.
Not really sure why you’re going there since Kraft himself admitted that what they were doing in recent years wasn’t working and they needed to change things up. Regardless, this is looking like an excellent draft thus far.
Barmore doesn't have the stats. If people voted solely on game film, he would definitely be in the discussion. But many people vote based on the stats and Barmore doesn't have them because the way the Pats use him.
“If you want to have a good, consistent, winning football team, you can’t do it in free agency. You have to do it through the draft,” Kraft said. “That’s when you’re able to get people of great talent — whether it’s Willie McGinest or Tom Brady — you get them at a price where you can build a team and be competitive. Once they get to their first contract, if they’re superstars, you can only balance so many of them.I took Kraft's statement to mean they should no longer draft with the goal that they were filling in pieces of a dynasty.
“If you want to have a good, consistent, winning football team, you can’t do it in free agency. You have to do it through the draft,” Kraft said. “That’s when you’re able to get people of great talent — whether it’s Willie McGinest or Tom Brady — you get them at a price where you can build a team and be competitive. Once they get to their first contract, if they’re superstars, you can only balance so many of them.
“So really, the teams who draft well are the ones who will be consistently good. I don’t feel we’ve done the greatest job the last few years, and I really hope — and I believe — I’ve seen a different approach this year.”
LOL.Right and the different approach is to no longer draft conservatively just to fill needs, because they no longer have that type of team. The talent from six Super Bowls is gone.
Kraft is saying they need to draft for greatness, rather than specific needs or weakness because they no longer have enough greatness. It's situational to where they are. That's the change of the approach.
I never thought he was taking at shot at Bill or anyone for drafting poorly.
Kraft said "different approach". He didn't say "not working" as you suggest, unless you mean not working was because there was no more Tom.
It looks like he hit the jackpot in the last draft. But there is no denying how bad the last 3 or 4 drafts were.And Barmore might be defensive rookie of the year.
Not to mention Rhamondre Stevenson.
But Bill can't draft.
LOL.
I mean, Jones had me gasping at least a few times yesterday... some of those throws were really something to beholdChase is a sexier player. Mac is doing this very workmanlike. No fancy plays, no plays that make you gasp. Just playing winning football. They can keep the ROY crap. Lets play deep in the playoffs.
His touch is absurd and it's only going to get better.I mean, Jones had me gasping at least a few times yesterday... some of those throws were really something to behold
His touch is absurd and it's only going to get better.
I’m having a hard time telling if you’re trolling, high, or just one of those people with a character issue who refuses to admit he’s wrong in the face of point blank, overwhelming evidence. In any event, I’m trying not to waste too much time with the first and third type of people. Then you persuaded me that I have time today.LOL at your LOL!
You think it's a coincidence Bill moved up to get Barmore when it made the most sense to stretch for talent.
You think it was coincidence Bill moved up to get Gronk in 2010 when it made the most sense to stretch for talent.
Just always be cynical when someone understands the landscape better than you. (And I mean BB, not me)