PostGame Thread Official Post Game Thread: Pats destroy the Browns

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Just pointing out that last year’s Bucs went like 0-5 against “contenders” in prime time games. Saints (twice), Chiefs, Rams. All losses. They didn‘t beat an elite team all season.

So, I think this idea that you can’t win in the postseason unless you “prove” you can beat an elite team is pretty much bunk. The Patriots are playing at a really high level right now. Kicking the crap out of three .500 teams is the sign of being a real contender every bit as much as getting one win against against an elite team.

 

[n1997y]

just saying…

 

[n1997y]

Mac passer rating: 142.1
Hoyer passer rating: a perfect 158.3

QB controversy?

Not only that.

Mac led two TD drives of 90+ yards in slightly more than three quarters of play.

Hoyer played less than a quarter and led one TD drive of 90+ yards, so he was clearly more efficient.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

just saying…

Love it. Sundays are fun.

 

[PF_SU]

Just pointing out that last year’s Bucs went like 0-5 against “contenders” in prime time games. Saints (twice), Chiefs, Rams. All losses. They didn‘t beat an elite team all season.

They did beat the crap out of Green Bay though.

But agreed that there is nothing to "prove" in the NFL. The NFL, more than any other league, is really a one-game-at-a-time business. How many Super Bowl champions have there been that didn't look particularly impressive in the regular season but put it all together for a deep playoff run? Not saying this Patriots team will have such a run, but they certainly have enough talent to make the playoffs if they continue to execute well and once in the playoffs everything can happen.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Just pointing out that last year’s Bucs went like 0-5 against “contenders” in prime time games. Saints (twice), Chiefs, Rams. All losses. They didn‘t beat an elite team all season.

So, I think this idea that you can’t win in the postseason unless you “prove” you can beat an elite team is pretty much bunk. The Patriots are playing at a really high level right now. Kicking the crap out of three .500 teams is the sign of being a real contender every bit as much as getting one win against against an elite team.

This win today was extremely exciting. Cleveland is a good team. I liked the game plan very much. Best play calling out of the 10 games thus far.

I'm not one for chasing passing stats whether it be yards-passing or ypa. Love the run-heavy, heavy-personnel focus today. 34 runs to 26 passes and protect your stud rookie QB. Perfect. I will always defend this type of play-calling that just keeps winning, against external mediot criticism about whether the QB has plateaued or has a bad arm (stat chasing). I'm all-in on an approach for a rookie QB who throws 200yds a game but high completion%, low/no QB hits, efficient in red zone, and generate a ton of rushing yards and a ton of 1st downs via heavy BEEF formations. 4 wins in a row now, keep it going.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

They did beat the crap out of Green Bay though.

But agreed that there is nothing to "prove" in the NFL. The NFL, more than any other league, is really a one-game-at-a-time business. How many Super Bowl champions have there been that didn't look particularly impressive in the regular season but put it all together for a deep playoff run? Not saying this Patriots team will have such a run, but they certainly have enough talent to make the playoffs if they continue to execute well and once in the playoffs everything can happen.

You’re right. I forgot about that game. Great post though.

There’s simply not much “champion-ness” about teams during the regular season that really acts as a great predictor of postseason success. Basically, just being really good overall is the best indicator. The rest of that stuff like “they’re still young,” “they can beat elite teams,” “they can win on the road” etc. tends to be just noise.

 

[NormZauchin]

You’re right. I forgot about that game. Great post though.

There’s simply not much “champion-ness” about teams during the regular season that really acts as a great predictor of postseason success. Basically, just being really good overall is the best indicator. The rest of that stuff like “they’re still young,” “they can beat elite teams,” “they can win on the road” etc. tends to be just noise.

Largest positive point differential over a season is good indicator of a strong team, though it is weakly correlated with a Super Bowl win.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Largest positive point differential over a season is good indicator of a strong team, though it is weakly correlated with a Super Bowl win.

Of course it is. Unless you’re just jamming it all into who happens to be #1 in point diff and who wins the Super Bowl, in a yes/no test. Just look at point differential the past 10 years. You’ll often see both Super Bowl teams led their conference.

Higher point differential is stronger team; stronger team is more likely to win any game, including the postseason. If it isn’t correlated with a Super Bowl win, it’s due to sample size.

 

[Mr Snrub]

Love this team. Optimistic for the rest of the season and even more optimistic for the future.

 

[nowayback]

Possessions today


TD
TD
TD
FG
Punt
TD
TD
TD

That punt is worrying ,

 

[PScottman]

Wasn't it changed/clarified after the Pats Steelers game a few years ago where the TE TD catch at the end of the game was ruled not a catch and the anti-NE football world lost their collective minds?

I was recalling the Bert Emanuel catch, but I think you're right that they adjusted it again after your example. I went to the current rulebook to pull that excerpt however so the clarification portions must be verbal only vs more words (which is probably good....dealing with lawyer speak every day I definitively don't want lawyers writing football rules).

 

[DarrylS]

1 Punt
7 for 9 on 3rd downs, Cleveland was 1 for 11
Believe they scored every time in the "red zone"
Time of Possession Pats 36 minutes, Cleveland 24 minutes
Total yards Patriots 452, Cleveland 217
Mac Jones 82.6 completion rate 142 QB Rating

Very impressive to see this turnaround.. then there are the 3 TD drives of 90+ yards..

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Outside of Cleveland's first drive, you really can't find any faults for the rest of the game. The most impressive was third down on both sides. Mac made I think the first 6 3rd down plays, and the defense pretty much stopped them on every third down.

Long sustained 90+ yard drives when you are already ahead in the game, are crushing for the opponent. It's like the return of Clock Killin Corey Dillon!

The Redskins had the best one of the day, they got the ball deep in their own end with 11 minutes left in the 4th quarter, up by 5 points. They went on a 10:30 20 play long drive, Scored a TD on 4th down with :27 seconds left.

You have to give a shout out to Harry, he had a great game! He was the focal point in stopping Garrett, and if you watched Garrett's post game press conference, he was clearly pissed that his coaching staff didn't even attempt to make adjustments to what the Pats were doing to him.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Just pointing out that last year’s Bucs went like 0-5 against “contenders” in prime time games. Saints (twice), Chiefs, Rams. All losses. They didn‘t beat an elite team all season.

So, I think this idea that you can’t win in the postseason unless you “prove” you can beat an elite team is pretty much bunk. The Patriots are playing at a really high level right now. Kicking the crap out of three .500 teams is the sign of being a real contender every bit as much as getting one win against against an elite team.

they beat GB

 

[Huckleberry1]

You probably should stop talking because you're showing you don't know wtf your saying..

McCaffery saw 29 snaps for the Panthers. He had 14 rushes for 52 yards and 4 receptions for 54 yards.. That's hardly a "few snaps as a distraction". If you're going to point out his production in Arizona, how about pointing out that he's only got 13 rushes there for 95 yards. Yeah, he has 10 receptions for 66 yards because he's Walker's safety blanket, but that doesn't change the fact that the Patriots held McCaffery in check.

As for the Browns, they were touted as having one of the best O-lines in the league. They had the 3rd best Run Defense in the league as well. They were the 6th best offense going into the game.. And the Pats held them to 7 points. And put up a 45 spot on that defense.

And you think that they "haven't proven anything". Sit down, Francis. You're embarrassing yourself.

The only "serious" teams on the Schedule are the Bills and Titans. And no one is looking past them. Both have shown to be beatable.

Agree with most of this, but Indy has a good defense and a strong run game, they won’t be an easy team to beat. That said this Patriots team is for real, and if Jones continues to progress, which is very likely, they are going to be one of the best team’s in football this season. And the way they are built, as a power run team is going to be really tough for most teams to handle, as most are built lighter and faster defensively, this will be an even bigger advantage if Jonnu Smith can get on the field and really contribute down the stretch. The key to it will be Jones continuing his dominance on 3rd down, as you really need that to keep a power run game on the field and wearing down opponents.

 

[Huckleberry1]

This is what I saw during the game of the buy in happening.

Belichick sucks, he’s a loser coach who has ruined this franchise, he should be fired.

Signed-Patriot fans, just stating facts, but not currently available.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Well done!

 

[BTTA]

That punt is worrying ,

And it was for 66 yards, longer than any play Jones made. I don't know why they don't get Bailey more opportunities. Seems like a waist.

 

[Mike the Brit]

That was the best Patriots game I've been to in years!

Did you hear me yelling from Section 309?