Where does J.C Jackson rank and what is he worth?

[JackBauer]

I feel the same way about Jackson as I did about Trey Flowers. Would have loved to have re-signed Flowers but the bidding got ridiculous and would have stopped us adding other players. The Lions clearly regret signing a good but not great player to a mega deal.

Same will happen with Jackson. I would happily re-sign him to a very good deal - say top 10 corner money at $14m a year. I have no interest at $18m+. A team that signs him for that amount is going to regret it. You need to look at the opportunity cost of doing it and who else you can't therefore sign. Franchising him is an even worse plan as you can't lower his cap hit in year one.

$14m? Are you high?

 

[DropKickFlutie]

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What's extremely apparent over the last hour is you have thin skin, are easily rattled like a little child / teenager, and also completely flip out being called out. That's awesome. You're a real hoot. But like I said, specific to this thread, glad you realized the error of your ways about JC Jackson.

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[RobertWeathers]

What's extremely apparent over the last hour is you have thin skin, are easily rattled like a little child / teenager, and also completely flip out being called out. That's awesome. You're a real hoot. But like I said, specific to this thread, glad you realized the error of your ways about JC Jackson.

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You think too much of yourself.

You don't have the prerequisite football or financial acumen to question me or anyone on this board.

You are all alone here. Everyone thinks you are an idiot.

Interesting how you keep going at me about JC Jackson when you know I think you are a moron, I don't respect you and don't like you.

You have major self-esteem issues.

I wish I could help you but you clearly don't want to help yourself.

Loser.

 

[Joker]

now THAT is a major league moron beatdown, R.W.

 

[RobertWeathers]

now THAT is a major league moron beatdown, R.W.

He's stubborn. It's like crawhammer all over again- only he had brains.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

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Okay dorky dork

 

[DropKickFlutie]

You think too

Okay dorky dork

 

[pazrul72]

Seeing how I no longer acknowledge your existence on this board, as a result you have a complex about it and choose to insult me.

So be it.

Because you are not just slow to catch on but too stupid to realize it, I don't reply to any of your comments to my posts because of your constant *****ing and complaining about the same **** over and over again. Josh. John Carroll. Drafts. BB sucks. Wide receivers, etc. Your knowledge of football is shallow and as a self-proclaimed listener of Felger, that makes anything you say here worthless.

Your talking points are beyond monotonous and the main reason why no one on this board engages in any substantive dialogue with you. I tried telling you that before politely but it's clear you just want to be here to hammer away with your dumb-ass point of view when no one gives a ****.

If your goal was to provoke me just so someone will actually interact with you on the board, congratulations.

Now kindly **** off.

 

[stinkypete]

If you children can't stop bickering I'm going to have to send you to the principal's office and call your parents in for a conference.

Back to the question at hand. The data says that Jackson is 39th in the league in passer rating allowed after ranking 7th last year. He has 1 TD allowed to 5 ints (though the ints are against current and former Jets only). He's had some good games against high level WRs: 75 yards on 13 targets to Mike Evans, 47 yards on 8 targets to Amari Cooper. He got burned repeatedly by Brandon Cooks in the Houston Game, and gave up a big play to Mike Williams. Otherwise he has not stood out negatively since last year's Buffalo game.

I'd say we've seen enough to conclude that, while insulated by Gilmore's greatness to some extent, Jackson is holding his own as a #1 corner. He is probably in the middle of the pack league wide compared with other top corners. We are a better team with him, and will be a worse team without.

Contract wise, Jackson is not elite enough to set the market in free agency, so he won't approach Ramsey/Lattimore/Humphrey money. Xavien Howard is averaging $15 million annually, and I would rank Howard well above Jackson as well. I think the magic number settles around $14 annually. This is what Trey Waynes, Marcus Peters and James Bradberry average. This seems like a fair tier for Jackson.

 

[JMC00]

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Pay this man. Not sure why some fans are so against spending Krafts money. The days of chewing out are gone. Look at what Bill had to do last summer.

Paying JC Jackson is worth more than whatever we are paying Jonnu smith and Agholor vs the production they have given us

I certainly dont care about Kraft's money, just the salary cap because it can be restrictive to work within its rules if you overpay players

That being said, its hard to imagine losing both Gilmore and Jackson within 6 months of each other and not have devastating consequences to the secondary. Not sure what the free agency market looks like for CBs next year, but hard to imagine very many, if any, being better than Jackson

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Elite performance. Pay JC Jackson. People forget Gilmore didn't look that great his first year here on a premium contract. No need to wait for JC to be the best CB in the league to extend him now. The alternative to not doing this is a very bleak future signing CB retreads or busting on more high CB picks.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Contract wise, Jackson is not elite enough to set the market in free agency, so he won't approach Ramsey/Lattimore/Humphrey money. Xavien Howard is averaging $15 million annually, and I would rank Howard well above Jackson as well. I think the magic number settles around $14 annually. This is what Trey Waynes, Marcus Peters and James Bradberry average. This seems like a fair tier for Jackson.

You're dreaming if you think 14m will get a deal done. JC Jackson is slated to be the top rated corner on the free agent market. And free agency changes EVERYTHING in terms of prices. With the salary cap slated to get a big bump next year, you can bet that Jackson's agent would be foolish to ask for anything less than a premium [ie top 5] salary and signing bonus for his client. You can 'feel' however you like about Jackson, the market will drive his asking price. Whether that prices him out of New England remains to be seen. But considering BB's inability to draft defensive backs, I'm going to just say it - PAY THE MAN!

Top CB Salaries currently in the NFL:

2025 NFL Rankings

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[DropKickFlutie]

You're dreaming if you think 14m will get a deal done. JC Jackson is slated to be the top rated corner on the free agent market. And free agency changes EVERYTHING in terms of prices. With the salary cap slated to get a big bump next year, you can bet that Jackson's agent would be foolish to ask for anything less than a premium [ie top 5] salary and signing bonus for his client. You can 'feel' however you like about Jackson, the market will drive his asking price. Whether that prices him out of New England remains to be seen. But considering BB's inability to draft defensive backs, I'm going to just say it - PAY THE MAN!

Top CB Salaries currently in the NFL:

2025 NFL Rankings

Listing the top salaries, cap hits, cash, earnings, contracts, and bonuses, for all active NFL players.

www.spotrac.com

Well said. JC is worth keeping. Question is how do they change the roster next year to make cap room ?

 

[stinkypete]

You're dreaming if you think 14m will get a deal done. JC Jackson is slated to be the top rated corner on the free agent market. And free agency changes EVERYTHING in terms of prices. With the salary cap slated to get a big bump next year, you can bet that Jackson's agent would be foolish to ask for anything less than a premium [ie top 5] salary and signing bonus for his client. You can 'feel' however you like about Jackson, the market will drive his asking price. Whether that prices him out of New England remains to be seen. But considering BB's inability to draft defensive backs, I'm going to just say it - PAY THE MAN!

Top CB Salaries currently in the NFL:

2025 NFL Rankings

Listing the top salaries, cap hits, cash, earnings, contracts, and bonuses, for all active NFL players.

www.spotrac.com

I am on board with paying the man, but I don't expect his deal to reset the market. He is clearly not in that tier. I see $14 million as a "fair" bad based on production relative to other top CB contracts. It can see Jackson trying to at least eclipse the deals that Howard and Jones have signed in Miami, though I think Howard is the better player.

Anything beyond $16 million annually is a poor value.

 

[TheRainMaker]

One of two things will happen tomorrow on this board:

1. JC has a good game and people say “pay him now.”

2. He has a bad game and people say “see, he’s not a #1 CB and he shouldn’t be paid like one.”

 

[slash83]

Pay the man. Gilmore is gone, Dmac might be playing his last year. You lose JC you’re practically having to rebuild a majority of your secondary.

 

[mgteich]

.Xavien Howard is averaging $15 million annually, and I would rank Howard well above Jackson as well. I think the magic number settles around $14 annually. This is what Trey Waynes, Marcus Peters and James Bradberry average. This seems like a fair tier for Jackson.

So, you think that Howard would get $15m AAV in the free agent market in the next off-season? I was going to be more direct, but let's just say that you are way, way low.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

I am on board with paying the man, but I don't expect his deal to reset the market. He is clearly not in that tier. I see $14 million as a "fair" bad based on production relative to other top CB contracts. It can see Jackson trying to at least eclipse the deals that Howard and Jones have signed in Miami, though I think Howard is the better player.

Anything beyond $16 million annually is a poor value.

What is considered poor value though? JC at 4 years for 17M a year is not an overpay imo. Paying Agholor 12M/yr, Wynn 10M/yr, Godchaux 8M/yr, a 2nd TE 12M/yr are overpays whereas holding onto a top-10 NFL cornerback is extremely important. Corner is like QB in that you are just treading water on offense/defense if your QB/CB1 are not elite.

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[farn]

If you don’t pay him what’s plan B?

I love me some JC. But I’ve been around for a while. Fans worried about the departures of Law, Samuel, Talib, Revis, Gilmore….

I think the plan is to find another CB and spread out the 18M it would cost over a few players.