Aaron Rodgers positive for COVID (update: “furious” status leaked, claims he didn’t lie, attacks NFL protocols)

[jah]

When they were younger, it took a bit of effort to get our kids to understand YouTube and TikTok nor anything written or said by the "press" should be taken as the complete truth.

It was easier in the early days of YouTube to dismiss people because the production value was so low, but now it's much easier to make something appear "legitimate". Just one factor, of course.

 

[Guts]

I will say Rodgers did make a genius move. He came on Mcafee on Friday knowing damn well on Monday the shows will be recapping the NFL. So nobody will call him out on his lie other than those Friday shows afterwards.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

In contrast, there is a relatively new internet-based societal phenomena where people without an education and experience in data-driven scientific based inquiry and assessment decide that by Googling only websites and talking heads that already agree with their preconceptions they can do "their own research" that has more validity than well educated and trained experts that spend their lives in the field. Rodgers is a perfect example, he clearly has no ability to gauge "what he knows" and is convinced by listening to people that already agree with his opinions (like Rogen) and googling anti-vax and anti-mask conspiracy websites he knows more than the experts.

Emphasis added. Dunning-Krueger effect and confirmation bias aren't new, just the specifics of how one goes about constructing the delusional universe

(Do your research)

 

[Bill Lee]

Free enterprise at work. Corporations are people too. Capitalism and the market approach solves all problems.

 

[goheels22002]

From the la times article?

based on 400 people with at least one lingering symptom? Why would that study mean anything to anybody. Nearly half of the people in the study that are referred to as having long covid reported fatigue, loss of smell, or some muscle pain. That isn’t significant to me.

I had covid a month ago. It wasn’t a good time, but was wholly unremarkable outside of losing my smell. So I guess I’m a long covid patient since I still can’t smell much. Feel free to go about your lives though. I won’t tell you how to live even though I faced the virus and now I’m a survivor.

Sequelae in Adults at 6 Months After COVID-19 Infection

This cohort study analyzed persistent symptoms among adults with coronavirus disease 2019 up to 9 months after illness onset.

jamanetwork.com

 

[goheels22002]

What I find interesting is that Aaron Rodgers cited Joe Rogan as an authority. Joe Rogan is a local guy who went to Newton South High School and dropped out of UMass Boston. Maybe Rodgers should think about why Joe Rogan would be so supportive of his decision not to get vaccinated. Is it because Rogan is systematically removing all the roadblocks he can to another Super Bowl Championship for his New New England Patriots?

... and to think that we thought it was Brady and Belichick all along. I wonder what Joe Rogan has in mind for the Buffalo Bills.

Joe Rogan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[goheels22002]

9) Gullible, falls for all kinds of nonsensical conspiracy theories.
10) Crap leadership skills, blames others for his failure to perform.

Excellent. Thank you.

I'm working on a Coach's Division - Jon Gruden appears to be the leading candidate for the 2021 Jay Cutler Douchebag-of-the-Year award, although he has some serious competition from the Harbaugh family.

 

[FCB02062]

Yeah…the media is totally pro-Ruggs. Lol

What more is there to say? There’s no controversy there.

no one attacked ruggs the way they are attacking Rogers.... did sports illustrated do a story on ruggs killing someone? how many opinion pieces we're written about Henry rugs? how about 0. how many opinion pieces were written about Aaron Rodgers decision not to take an experimental medical procedure? how about a million

 

[Tony2046]

Depends

do 99% of people with stage 4 esophageal cancer survive?

No. I think it's somewhere around 5%. But I wouldn't say he died "with" cancer just as I wouldn't say people died "with Covid" to support an anti vax argument.

 

[Huckleberry1]

What a load of political crybaby bullcrap. I guess you just can't help yourself.

It's kind of funny how many political references I see in this thread and others and they all come from the same side. If it was the other way around those posts would never see the light of day.

You mean like the guy comparing vaccine mandates to Hitler? The vast majority of political posts in this forum come from Trump supporters, and when we respond the right wingers cry like little b.tches about it. I have been ignoring them but I’m certainly not going to sit idly by while you spew your right wing grievances. Don’t like it? Tough sh.t.

My issue with Rodgers and the Packers has nothing to do with politics, despite Rodgers extreme right cries about how he is being “ cancelled.” With the Packers it is that they played an ineligible player, and they should be pay for that. With Rodgers it’s that he is being paid big money to try and get them a Lombardi, and by not getting vaccinated he put that at serious risk. He’s a selfish, narcissistic punk, I’m glad he has never played here.

 

[zydecochris]

Emphasis added. Dunning-Krueger effect and confirmation bias aren't new, just the specifics of how one goes about constructing the delusional universe

(Do your research)

I get your point, and respect it, but let me perhaps take it more seriously than it was intended and respectfully push back a bit: of course Dunning-Krueger confirmation bias has always existed (such as KKK meetings in the 1920s), but the ease with which one can access like-minded extremist viewpoints and websites at the instantaneous push of a button on the internet is new. What is also new is the prevalence of media "opinion makers", websites, and media companies whose business model is 100% devoted to attracting viewers with one particular world view, the more extreme the better. Several major news and "opinion making" channels (on both sides of the spectrum) have completely transformed themselves in 10-20 years from presenting news with a somewhat conservative or liberal leaning to the extremist media aimed at one particular target audience we have today.

The other thing that has changed is the suspicion with which scientific and medical experts are viewed, it is a relatively recent phenomena at least since WWII (there was the Scopes Trial in 1925 but that was a small puddle compared to the ocean of anti-science media outlets and websites and sentiment now). I don't think science is the answer for everything (the meaning of life, God, our place in the universe, etc.), but for quantifiable measurable phenomena like physics, chemistry, and medicine (although it takes time to do the right type of medical trials) data driven science is our best source of information.

 

[Huckleberry1]

no one attacked ruggs the way they are attacking Rogers.... did sports illustrated do a story on ruggs killing someone? how many opinion pieces we're written about Henry rugs? how about 0. how many opinion pieces were written about Aaron Rodgers decision not to take an experimental medical procedure? how about a million

Henry Ruggs should go to jail for as long as possible, and he should never be allowed to play pro football again, what he did was unconscionable. That said superstars always get much more sh.t and notice when they f.ck up than do your average player, anyone with half a brain knows that, but that’s clearly too high a bar for you to meet.

 

[Bill Lee]

no one attacked ruggs the way they are attacking Rogers.... did sports illustrated do a story on ruggs killing someone? how many opinion pieces we're written about Henry rugs? how about 0. how many opinion pieces were written about Aaron Rodgers decision not to take an experimental medical procedure? how about a million

Whataboutism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about…?") is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy, which attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving the argument.

In other words, you can't refute what is being said about Rodgers so you try to change the argument to Ruggs.

 

[Huckleberry1]

We can try but some folks just can't help themselves.

And that includes you.

 

[Tunescribe]

He started liking vaccine conspiracy theory posts online back in February/March. Then this. Doesn’t the whole anti-mask angle pour even more cold water on his “allergic to an ingredient” claim? Yeah, a guy who is a big time anti-vaxx, anti-mask truther just so happens to also be a 1-in-a-million case.

I think it’s funny he expected the public to be so goddamned stupid and thought he could trick people with this. Before it was one lie; now it’s many lies.

Has this miscreant specified how he supposedly knows he's "allergic" to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines? That's the first thing my RN wife wondered.

Then the idiot takes Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine, both with potential serious side effects.

 

[Bill Lee]

Excellent. Thank you.

I'm working on a Coach's Division - Jon Gruden appears to be the leading candidate for the 2021 Jay Cutler Douchebag-of-the-Year award, although he has some serious competition from the Harbaugh family.

Siriani (sp?) from PHL just exudes douchedom, Shanny Jr is really in the lead in the category of throwing other people under the bus, but Gruden should get a lifetime achievement award. He's been a douche ever since he showed up in the NFL decades ago. He deserves a special citation for taking credit for winning a SB with Tony Dungy's team, then blaming every GM since his first season for his failures.

 

[Guts]

no one attacked ruggs the way they are attacking Rogers.... did sports illustrated do a story on ruggs killing someone? how many opinion pieces we're written about Henry rugs? how about 0. how many opinion pieces were written about Aaron Rodgers decision not to take an experimental medical procedure? how about a million

Dawg there's not much to be said about Ruggs. He is gone from the NFL and facing up to 46 years in prison and deservedly so and should be more. The issue here is that no matter what your view is on Covid, all the mandates, and vaccines no one should care on your stance on it. I's the fact that this mfer Aaron Rodgers lied and broke protocols that his NFLPA agreed to. He is paid millions of dollars and has to follow protocols yet he feels like he is above it.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Depends

do 99% of people with stage 4 esophageal cancer survive?

You still dont know ****

 

[yukon cornelius]

Typical Whitlock.

I didn’t know he was still around

 

[PatsWSB47]

Co-worker 16 year old nephew perfect health, football player in high school. Died of covid 2 weeks ago. His dad was a conspiracy guy and would not let him get the vaccine. He ended up taken down all of his conspiracy BS off facebook after his son died. Hope he was happy with his decision.

Its so sad. We have had a good number of patients admitted with covid who refused to accept the diagnosis. Some are no longer with us.