Patriots Training Camp Day 16 (8/24) NYG

[Uptown]

 

[Uptown]

Not sure of the validity of these metrics, but make of it what you will..

 

[Uptown]

 

[Uptown]

Super Bowl hopes…

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not sure of the validity of these metrics, but make of it what you will..

 

[Sicilian]

Possibly they're cutting all 6 of those guys, and have someone on the market they're looking to bring in for the last week of camp.

 

[Steve102]

Super Bowl hopes…

 

[Uptown]

Love it

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Every single thing you said in this post is wrong. Congratulations.

How is that Trent Brown us is our LT tirade going for you now?

I like how Belichick said Trent Brown was a switch hitter and so valuable for the team at both LT and RT. And also how the Pats practiced Trent at LT a month ago planning for scenarios. So it's all good.

 

[mgcolby]

Not sure of the validity of these metrics, but make of it what you will..

I...want...to...b-e-l-i-e-v-e! Metrics convoluted... but I like what they say...so I think I will.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I like how Belichick said Trent Brown was a switch hitter and so valuable for the team at both LT and RT. And also how the Pats practiced Trent at LT a month ago planning for scenarios. So it's all good.

Yep its a high probability he slides to LT if Wynn goes down.

 

[jdlboot14]

I don't recall him saying he wasn't ready, just that he's not focusing on week 1 right now, instead focusing on what he has to do to get better from yesterday. It's definitely team speak, something he's been coached into saying to the media (and is a good mindset to have in general), but we can't glean from that how he feels internally. It's the canned response.

also, I don't think anyone thinks Mac is "ready" to start - as in, he's had all the internalizing of the playbook and has mastered the practice reps. What yesterday shows is that he needs to start taking 1st team reps consistently as a better test of how quickly that can happen.
I still believe Cam will start the first month, barring injury or Covid nonsense. But, this does work out very well for Mac's insertion into 1st team experience all week.

 

[ashley]

Super Bowl hopes…

Lol @Uptown ...I would also think with the emergence of Cajuste recently, that Marcus Martin will be next to go, then followed by Sherman.

 

[Ring 6]

I like how Belichick said Trent Brown was a switch hitter and so valuable for the team at both LT and RT. And also how the Pats practiced Trent at LT a month ago planning for scenarios. So it's all good.

So all your crying was for nothing??

 

[Uptown]

 

[pats99]

Interesting

This starter thing is overrated. The truth is if Cam plays like he did last year, patriots will bench him. They did it last year with Stidham, they won’t hesitate to do it again. (The only reason Stidham or Hoyer did not take the job from Cam last year was that they were awful as well.)

If Cam is playing well and their quarterback play is close (as it appears to be) what’s the downside of having Mac Jones sit and learn instead of having to risk pulling your rookie first round pick out of the game, damaging his confidence. Just seems that there is so much urgency to start Jones and so far there is no compelling reason to do so.

 

[Uptown]

 

[Uptown]

 

[jah]

This starter thing is overrated. The truth is if Cam plays like he did last year, patriots will bench him. They did it last year with Stidham, they won’t hesitate to do it again. (The only reason Stidham or Hoyer did not take the job from Cam last year was that they were awful as well.)

If Cam is playing well and their quarterback play is close (as it appears to be) what’s the downside of having Mac Jones sit and learn instead of having to risk pulling your rookie first round pick out of the game, damaging his confidence. Just seems that there is so much urgency to start Jones and so far there is no compelling reason to do so.

Pulling your QB in the second half of a blowout loss is not the same thing as naming a new starter going into a game. Cam Newton has never been benched for real on the Patriots, and we don't really know what the threshold is for how bad he has to play to make that happen.

I see everyone bring up the confidence aspect for Mac, but I don't really get it. Isn't confidence one of the intangibles we already expected Mac to have which contributed to his draft selection? Who's to say Cam losing confidence isn't an equal risk? Who's to say Mac wouldn't be equally shaken by losing the position battle right now? A good team player should be accepting of whatever his role is during a given play, game, or season. If benching either of our QBs is enough to send them into a career ruining spiral, maybe that just means they weren't going to pan out in the first place.

Not playing Mac out of fear that he might get rattled by a hypothetical benching seems very cowardly and based on more than one assumption that might not even hold. He should be the starter as soon as the staff thinks he's better than Cam for the team.

 

[Ring 6]

also, I don't think anyone thinks Mac is "ready" to start - as in, he's had all the internalizing of the playbook and has mastered the practice reps. What yesterday shows is that he needs to start taking 1st team reps consistently as a better test of how quickly that can happen.
I still believe Cam will start the first month, barring injury or Covid nonsense. But, this does work out very well for Mac's insertion into 1st team experience all week.

Why isn’t he ready? What would sitting on the bench do to make him more ready?