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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Eventually perhaps. Hard to jump into this D. If he can step up, KVN could move inside like Bruschi.That said. Watching video of Ronnie Perkins, i think there’s reason to believe he might be the rare 250 lbs guy who, because of his reach and upper body strength, might be able to hold his own against a “fatty” Olineman.
Seymour DID play some nt and he was excellent. One of the most versatile dl Ive seen. So ya, the right guy can be good at nt around 310. And he played below that most of his time with Pats. Weight alone means nothing.As a person who at one point in life weighed 3 bills, a “fatty” is anyone around 300 lbs or more. I don’t think it’s necessary to have an ultra-fatty 330 pounder play nose tackle. We think that because of Washington and Wilfork, but Seymour or Warren, I believe, could have adequately played the nose at 310. They could have played it better than Danny Shelton did at 340.
My guess is Judon and Van Noy.
In this context, I suspect that 3 players at 308 or more is fine. I have been guilty of wanting to field 3 fatties., including a true NT (320+).
Currently, we have Godchaux (310) and Adams (308), not exactly a stout middle. We will depend on Guy (300). I would keep Adams as a backup to Godchaux.
- 2-4-5: 29.3%
- 2-3-6: 21.6%
- 3-3-5: 18.5%
- 2-2-7: 10.0%
- 3-2-6: 6.8%
- 1-3-7: 6.7%
- 3-4-4: 2.1%
- 2-5-4: 1.6%
- 1-4-6: 1.1%
- 3-1-7: 0.6%
- 4-4-3: 0.5%
- 4-3-4: 0.5%
- 3-5-3: 0.4%
- 4-2-5: 0.1%
- 1-2-8: 0.1%
I mispoke. I have said in the past that we should have 3-4 fatties on the team. We have come to trying to stop the run without even one player who can really plug up the middle.Maybe I am misunderstanding. If you have three fatties in the middle and Judon, Winovich, Perkins, etc., playing the two DE positions, that is a 5 man DLine. @BaconGrundleCandy posted our formations from last year above and I repeat them below :
There are no 5 man DLine fronts. Maybe you could explain how these three fatties fit in one of the formations above?
I mispoke. I have said in the past that we should have 3-4 fatties on the team. We have come to trying to stop the run without even one player who can really plug up the middle.
Yes I think we will have 3 or 4 fatties (@captain stone thinks otherwise ) so we will have a defensive "fatties" rotation with 1 or 2 on the field except in goal line formations. I agree with @captain stone that the better your fattie is, the stouter the run blocking up the middle will be, but we can not have All-Pros in every position, so I think we will have a cost-effective or a value fatties rotation - Guy, Godchaux, Adams, Davis, Barmore or Wise.
In this context, I suspect that 3 players at 308 or more is fine. I have been guilty of wanting to field 3 fatties., including a true NT (320+).
Currently, we have Godchaux (310) and Adams (308), not exactly a stout middle. We will depend on Guy (300). I would keep Adams as a backup to Godchaux.
You've simply chose you own definition. In no football world (but yours) are players like Barmore and Wise thought of as fatties.Yes I think we will have 3 or 4 fatties (@captain stone thinks otherwise ) so we will have a defensive "fatties" rotation with 1 or 2 on the field except in goal line formations. I agree with @captain stone that the better your fattie is, the stouter the run blocking up the middle will be, but we can not have All-Pros in every position, so I think we will have a cost-effective or a value fatties rotation - Guy, Godchaux, Adams, Davis, Barmore or Wise.
We were very special against the run in 2020. We were #7. Only six teams allowed more rushing yards.Yes I think we will have 3 or 4 fatties (@captain stone thinks otherwise ) so we will have a defensive "fatties" rotation with 1 or 2 on the field except in goal line formations. I agree with @captain stone that the better your fattie is, the stouter the run blocking up the middle will be, but we can not have All-Pros in every position, so I think we will have a cost-effective or a value fatties rotation - Guy, Godchaux, Adams, Davis, Barmore or Wise.
Actually, Seymour wasn't very good at the NT position.. It's why they went out and got Ted Washington after the 2002 season.Seymour DID play some nt and he was excellent. One of the most versatile dl Ive seen. So ya, the right guy can be good at nt around 310. And he played below that most of his time with Pats. Weight alone means nothing.
The classic 3-4 had 5 players aligned on the line of scrimmage with the 3 Dlinemen and the 2 OLBs. Think McGiniest and Vrabel who most of the time were aligned to the immediate left or right of the DE.Maybe I am misunderstanding. If you have three fatties in the middle and Judon, Winovich, Perkins, etc., playing the two DE positions, that is a 5 man DLine. @BaconGrundleCandy posted our formations from last year above and I repeat them below :
There are no 5 man DLine fronts. Maybe you could explain how these three fatties fit in one of the formations above?
Had Captain Stone actually WATCHED Godchaux last year, he'd know that Godchaux plays the 0-Tech very well for a guy who is just 311.