Player Signing Cam newton resigned 1 year deal

[sb1]

Respectfully I disagree that Brady doesn’t beat KC without the defense. That offense had KC’s D guessing for most of the night and could’ve dropped 40+ if needed. It was an advantage for the Bucs’ D to have a 2-3 score lead so they could attack the entire 2nd half. Also didn’t hurt that KC was missing their OL. Brady was locked-in and very efficient in that game. I’ll give you Green Bay, Tampa D saved Brady in the 2nd half.

I think Reid took a step back in my view in the Super Bowl. It was obvious Mahomes had some serious trouble with the rush and they didn't adjust.

Will be interesting to see how teams play them now.

 

[NE_Zealot]

That's a popular narrative. It's not true, though, as Arians pointed by how he discussed the 3 ints.

I guess I agree with the popular narrative on that one. They gave Rodgers 3 free possessions and their O walked away with what, 6 points I think??

 

[tigerjohn]

I like it if It’s a deal that is significantly cheaper than other options (Mariota, Fitz etc) along with investment at QB in the draft.

with a full training camp, and no Covid, I think the team would have won 10 games last year.

adding some skill pieces who can get separation and create mismatches through schemes will help Cam as well. The D should be better if they can find a DT to shore up the run D. All in all should be a team that can make the playoffs.

 

[luuked]

Remember when the Patriots wanted us to believe they loved Jarrett Stidham?

Fun times.

The Patriots didn't want you to believe anything.

It was the sports media feeding you a narrative for clicks and ratings.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I guess I agree with the popular narrative on that one. They gave Rodgers 3 free possessions and their O walked away with what, 6 points I think??

Yep, Rodgers choked (as usual).

 

[Sicilian]

I think Reid took a step back in my view in the Super Bowl. It was obvious Mahomes had some serious trouble with the rush and they didn't adjust.

Will be interesting to see how teams play them now.

I think Reid has always been that guy: Great motivator, great offensive mind, but misses on little details and game/clock management. They won in 2019 because Mahomes and that offense were really, really good, and the coach on the other sideline in the Super Bowl was ALSO a guy who doesn't seem to have the intangibles of coaching nailed down. All coaches need great rosters to succeed, but Reid also needs a roster capable of taking close game decisions out of his hands.

 

[PWRxWLF]

Not excited about the Cam signing. To be fair, it’s not as if he was given the best chance to succeed last year. I don’t necessarily think this means the Pats are planning to go high with a QB pick. Feels more like a let’s surround this guy with better talent and give him more time to see what he’s got kind of a move. If a guy drops they like, sure they’ll take him. Just not getting priority vibes. Admittedly, it’s all in my gut and not because of anything said. Still a whole lot of offseason left. I refuse to over react!!!!!

 

[NE_Zealot]

I think Reid took a step back in my view in the Super Bowl. It was obvious Mahomes had some serious trouble with the rush and they didn't adjust.

Will be interesting to see how teams play them now.

Yeah pretty insane that Reid didn’t make any meaningful adjustments. Left Mahomes out there to twist in the wind with hero ball.

 

[Sicilian]

On Cam Newton, hard to say anything that hasn't already been said in this thread. But I'll put myself on record here for future ridicule if anyone decides to look it up next year:

1) I think there's still less than a 50/50 chance Cam is the starter week 1 in 2021. The contract at its base seems to put him in the high backup range, which is fine. Show me a backup that can win you 7 games and I'd say that's a fine backup to have. It doesn't stop them from making another move via trade or FA to bring in another vet to compete, and definitely doesn't stop them from drafting a kid (though then I would say Cam is your week 1 starter unless the kid blows them away out of the gate).

2) If Cam is the starter, he'll be better than he was in 2020, for all the reasons already put forth. More time in the offense, hopefully better weapons, and whether Covid was actually a factor or not, it hopefully won't even be a possible detractor this year.

3) Cam being better will NOT mean Cam is good enough. I don't think he was a guy that had the clutch SB winning gene even when he was at his physical peak, and he's definitely not now. But he will be better, and with enough improvements in other areas, better might be enough to earn a wild card spot. Don't forget, there are 3 of those now, and 99 out of 100 years, 10 wins will get you the 7 seed.

 

[Deus Irae]

I guess I agree with the popular narrative on that one. They gave Rodgers 3 free possessions and their O walked away with what, 6 points I think??

• First INT was at the GB 32. That was turned into a TD.
• Second INT was at the GB 3. That, not surprisingly, did not result in any GB points. That was also the pass that Evans had a bad jump on, so pinning it on Brady is wrong to start with.
• Third INT was at the GB 24, on a 3rd down throw from the TB 46. So it was, in effect, a punt.
• And that all took place after Brady had gotten the team a 28-10 lead a/k/a an 18 point lead

So the notion that the defense saved Brady's ass, when Brady and the offense put up 31 points in that game, just doesn't hold water.

Now, if you wanted to argue that Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers did their best to help the Bucs win, I'd agree with you on that.

 

[Rob0729]

Respectfully I disagree that Brady doesn’t beat KC without the defense. That offense had KC’s D guessing for most of the night and could’ve dropped 40+ if needed. It was an advantage for the Bucs’ D to have a 2-3 score lead so they could attack the entire 2nd half. Also didn’t hurt that KC was missing their OL. Brady was locked-in and very efficient in that game. I’ll give you Green Bay, Tampa D saved Brady in the 2nd half.

Whether the KC's offense was down tackles or not, Mahommes is more than capable to match and exceed any offense he is going up against. he Chiefs had 5 drives of 16 or less yards (one ending in an INT). That is un-Chief-like. Mahommes was intercepted twice. The Chiefs' offense was held to nine point. Whether it was the Bucs' defense or just the tackles being out and Mahommes being injuried. The game would have been very different if the Chiefs' offense played remotely like it was capable of playing. And all of that was out of Brady's control. The Bucs still might have won, but they might not have. And Brady had a very good game.

But that is my point. Kontradiction thinks that since Brady won the Super Bowl and Josh Allen didn't that Brady had a better season in terms of QB play. I am pointing out that a lot of things outside the QB control plays into wins and losses. And Mahommes being shutdown for whatever reason was a very big reason the Bucs won.

 

[Deus Irae]

Whether the KC's offense was down tackles or not, Mahommes is more than capable to match and exceed any offense he is going up against.

Obviously not

 

[Rob0729]

Obviously not

Sorry I didn't wordsmith my post. I meant whether the Chiefs' offense was shut down because of the problems on the o-line that shut down the Chiefs' offense or the Bucs' defense, Mahomes is usually capable of matching or exceeding any opposing offense.

 

[JayNM]

This strikes me as an overpay, but I dont hate the move. If they are bringing him back, there has to be some level of confidence that it can go better next year, so now I am even more pumped about our FA

Besides the obvious positions, I really hope we can get a LB who can reliably cover people. We havent had those in a long time

 

[TheRainMaker]

Whether the KC's offense was down tackles or not, Mahommes is more than capable to match and exceed any offense he is going up against. he Chiefs had 5 drives of 16 or less yards (one ending in an INT). That is un-Chief-like. Mahommes was intercepted twice. The Chiefs' offense was held to nine point. Whether it was the Bucs' defense or just the tackles being out and Mahommes being injuried. The game would have been very different if the Chiefs' offense played remotely like it was capable of playing. And all of that was out of Brady's control. The Bucs still might have won, but they might not have. And Brady had a very good game.

But that is my point. Kontradiction thinks that since Brady won the Super Bowl and Josh Allen didn't that Brady had a better season in terms of QB play. I am pointing out that a lot of things outside the QB control plays into wins and losses. And Mahommes being shutdown for whatever reason was a very big reason the Bucs won.

For all the times Brady and the Pats have been shorthanded in big games, I give the Chiefs zero sympathy on who wasn't available for them. Tough s*** for them.

Jimmy G and the 9ers also had a nice lead last year with 6 minutes to play and they s*** the bed.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

I honestly think that if Cam sucks as much as last year and the pats season looks like 2020 Robert Kraft should fire Bill at the end of the season.

Bill is not the only coach who can rebuild a team, the fact is, his career show that it is more probable than not that he can’t do it

 

[TheRainMaker]

I think Reid took a step back in my view in the Super Bowl. It was obvious Mahomes had some serious trouble with the rush and they didn't adjust.

Will be interesting to see how teams play them now.

OL should be their main priority in the draft.

 

[NE_Zealot]

Whether the KC's offense was down tackles or not, Mahommes is more than capable to match and exceed any offense he is going up against. he Chiefs had 5 drives of 16 or less yards (one ending in an INT). That is un-Chief-like. Mahommes was intercepted twice. The Chiefs' offense was held to nine point. Whether it was the Bucs' defense or just the tackles being out and Mahommes being injuried. The game would have been very different if the Chiefs' offense played remotely like it was capable of playing. And all of that was out of Brady's control. The Bucs still might have won, but they might not have. And Brady had a very good game.

But that is my point. Kontradiction thinks that since Brady won the Super Bowl and Josh Allen didn't that Brady had a better season in terms of QB play. I am pointing out that a lot of things outside the QB control plays into wins and losses. And Mahommes being shutdown for whatever reason was a very big reason the Bucs won.

Would’ve been more interesting if KC had their tackles for sure. I’m just saying the Tampa O was balanced well and KC had no answer, Bucs would’ve cooked a 50-burger if they felt like it. Cheers!

 

[Steve102]

I don't get the meltdown of this board. FA hasn't officially started. No draft yet. No OTAs, no camp, and no schedule even. Coming off a chit year with no cap space and tons of opt outs. He got backup QB money with incentives to pay him bottom of the barrel starting QB money, which is what he is. Some of you sound like Jete fans. Wait and see what the hell this roster looks like on May 1 and then decide to have a meltdown or not. Cheezus.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I honestly think that if Cam sucks as much as last year and the pats season looks like 2020 Robert Kraft should fire Bill at the end of the season.

Bill is not the only coach who can rebuild a team, the fact is, his career show that it is more probable than not that he can’t do it

My hope is that Bill told Cam that he may draft a QB or bring someone in for competition as I can't imagine Bill is just going to roll with Cam again. That would be tragic.