OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[carmelo15]

Here’s my reasoning:

Barrett might not even be that great. He didn’t do much in Denver as a UDFA. His 2019 season is a clear outlier. But the biggest factor is his rise to big sack totals aligns exactly with Suh and Vea dominating up front. Same this postseason...as soon as Vea came back that pass rush dominated. In addition to collapsing the line to absorb extra blockers, TB’s elite run defense lets them pin their ears back.



They already have JPP signed and he isn’t cheap. I think Belichick had a good approach to pass rushers, recognizing they cost too much, pressure is more of a team effort, and there are typically a lot of decent options much cheaper. A guy like Ninkovich can give you 75% of the production for like 25% of the cost of an elite guy. There are going to be free agents in the $5-10M range that can fill the role.

Tampa Bay’s one weakness is they don’t have a stud CB, and they were able to scheme around it but might not be able to next time. If they got a shutdown corner, it would be perfect because they have like three #2 CBs who would benefit from easier assignments. Huge domino effect. And an elite secondary + Suh/Vea would make it so much easier for pass rushers too.

I’m really hoping they don’t spend money on Barrett. Almost every team regrets a big investment in a guy like that. Pass rush specialists are so dependent on the players around them.

Barrett without Vea this year was still a very good player with Vea he’s an all pro player and they’ll always have Vea. JPP is 32 and a free agent next year no way you let Barrett go cause you have him.
Godwin isn’t needed when you have Evans, Miller, and Johnson. Now add on AB who can do what he does at a fraction of the price makes picking Godwin over Barrett a foolish decision that will cost them

 

[AlexB]

Barrett without Vea this year was still a very good player with Vea he’s an all pro player and they’ll always have Vea. JPP is 32 and a free agent next year no way you let Barrett go cause you have him.
Godwin isn’t needed when you have Evans, Miller, and Johnson. Now add on AB who can do what he does at a fraction of the price makes picking Godwin over Barrett a foolish decision that will cost them

I think they need both. Would be foolish to rely on AB - the beauty of the situation this year was that they didn't really need him if he acted up again.

Agree that they can't get rid of Barrett either. It shouldn't be too hard to push cap into future years and keep everyone. TB should be all in for the next 2-3 years and then worry about cap later.

 

[Tony2046]

I think we're hitting the same point, just from the opposite side. You're saying "They need a better secondary, so they should get a better secondary player, even at the expense of their front 7". I'm saying "Their secondary is young and improving, so having the pass rushers will cover for some of the deficiencies back there".

And it's not that I don't think your side has merit. It's just that I remember the 2019 NE and 2020 TB defenses, and I see that 2020 TB fared better.

"Game is won or lost in the trenches. ".

 

[Zarozzor]

Did anyone see Brown at the parade?

 

[venecol]

Did anyone see Brown at the parade?

I think he was in one of the boats.

 

[Lavictoire]

eh, Brady carried the Bucs this year. and Brady was the one coaching the bucs up with teaching points which he undoubtedly learned from BB. Bruce was there for the ride. Obviously Bruce's way on offense didn't work with the Bucs until they gave the keys to Brady.

When the Lombardi was presented and it was Arians turn at the microphone he said "I didnt do a damn thing."

 

[venecol]

When the Lombardi was presented and it was Arians turn at the microphone he said "I didnt do a damn thing."

One thing BA gets credit for, in my book, is keeping that team together and inspired.

Team had many talented players already with a few stars in Evans, Godwin, David, etc. Then they bring in super stars like Gronk, Fournette and throw AB into the mix.

It couldn't have been easy to maintain harmony in a locker room with strong personalities like JPP, Suh, Barrett, AB, Fournette, etc. BA kept everyone chill throughout. That's pretty amazing.

 

[Lavictoire]

 

[venecol]

This is great on Gronk.

 

[carmelo15]

I think they need both. Would be foolish to rely on AB - the beauty of the situation this year was that they didn't really need him if he acted up again.

Agree that they can't get rid of Barrett either. It shouldn't be too hard to push cap into future years and keep everyone. TB should be all in for the next 2-3 years and then worry about cap later.

I don’t see how they could sign both Godwin and Barrett one will go for 19mill and Godwin 15 and that’s at a hometown discount. Succop and Davis have to get signed there now way you let them go under any circumstances and Davis will be at 12-13million.

You’re just gonna have to trust AB cause trading Godwin away and keeping AB allows you to keep Barrett, Davis, Suh, and Succop. Johnson should be better he second year and he was very good his first year and you have Miller. If AB gets suspend there WR is still average and that’s before you factor in Gronk/Howard at TE.

 

[venecol]

 

[venecol]

 

[SHOWTIME15]

When the Lombardi was presented and it was Arians turn at the microphone he said "I didnt do a damn thing."

Then not sure why he's practically guaranteeing a repeat...

 

[PP2]

This is great on Gronk.

Don't think there will be another TE who can straight up block an elite DE, anytime soon.

I just realized that his first TD doesn't happen without a perfect pick by Mike Evans. That was beautiful.

 

[Triumph]

Best Partying Moments From All 4 Rob Gronkowski's Super Bowl Championship Parades

Tampa Bay Buccaneers superstar and recent Super Bowl 55 winner Rob Gronkowski is amazing on the field, but is in his element during any celebration.

clutchpoints.com

 

[Triumph]

Then not sure why he's practically guaranteeing a repeat...

Drunk talk. He likes to drink.

Arians also sad that Godwin wasnt going anywhere.

 

[italian pat patriot]

Awesome celebrations...i have to admit i have never seen GOAT like that but i like it

Seems more human...

I think clima helped too

Compliments to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers chapeau...

 

[sb1]

I think that’s a great Cam imitation!

 

[Uptown]

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[SHOWTIME15]

Drunk talk. He likes to drink.

Arians also sad that Godwin wasnt going anywhere.

Alcohol = truth serum