What to expect in the Post-Brady era.

[Keyser Söze]

Hopefully Marshall Newhouse isnt back next year

If he is you really know we’re tanking for Lawrence.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

If he is you really know we’re tanking for Lawrence.

Lawrence just looks good in a pats uniform compared to say the jags . I don’t know who else has a shot at him next year having a terrible record.

 

[sb1]

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[sb1]

Lawrence just looks good in a pats uniform compared to say the jags . I don’t know who else has a shot at him next year having a terrible record.

It will take a 1 or 2 win season. Not happening here. Jags have a good shot at it though.

 

[amfootball]

I expect about 8-8 this year, if they even have a season. First, the schedule is MUCH harder than it was in 2019. Second, Stidham isn't Tom Brady, even a diminished Tom Brady. Third, they're getting younger and faster, but also more inexperienced.

But I'd consider 8-8 a successful season, especially if we see real development from Stidham and the young guys, because that means the following years should be much improved.

But the days of winning 12 games a year and dominating the division year in and year out, making virtually every AFCCG are obviously over, never to return. That was a once-in-a-lifetime run. Now we are like everyone else, hoping to be competitive for the division, hoping to win it every few years, hoping to make it to the AFCCG once in a while, and maybe even winning a Super Bowl from time to time. That's about the best we can expect moving forward. The Pats' run from 2001-2019 is never ever happening again for the Patriots or any other franchise.

Much depends on the defense. If it is anywhere close to what it was last year than the Pats can have a winning season and contend for the East. I do think opponents, especially our divisional opponents will come in over confident and feel the pressure to win now that Brady is gone. Heck, you saw the pressure get to Buffalo last year when they had a chance at the division in late Dec. I do think that will work to the Pats advantage as if they are able to hold their own then the division will get jittery especially if Stidham looks solid.

 

[sb1]

Much depends on the defense. If it is anywhere close to what it was last year than the Pats can have a winning season and contend for the East. I do think opponents, especially our divisional opponents will come in over confident and feel the pressure to win now that Brady is gone. Heck, you saw the pressure get to Buffalo last year when they had a chance at the division in late Dec. I do think that will work to the Pats advantage as if they are able to hold their own then the division will get jittery especially if Stidham looks solid.

That's true. Last year was a paper tiger up front unfortunately but the schedule is not like that this year so I expect no overconfidence on our side.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

In 2000, the Pats went 5-11 in a pretty good AFCE, but lost 9 games by one score. That team converted only 35% of third downs (24th in league) and allowed 43.5% (28th). Red zone TD conversion rates were 43.4% for (24th) and 51.9% against (18th).

In 2001, the 3rd down conversion rates flipped: 41.2% for (8th) and 37.2% (15th) against. More noticeable was the improvement in red zone TD conversion rates, particularly on D: 48.1% for (16th) and 38.8% against (3rd).

I believe the 2020 Pats are closer to the 2001 team than the 2000 team solely due to the D, but I also think the O will be better than the 2000 offense in those key 3rd down and red zone TD situations. The 2000 team likely would have flipped a few of the close losses with marginally improved 3rd down and red zone TD differential that I think the 2020 team offers. With the midpoint between 2000 and 2001 win totals being 8 games, I think the 2020 team at a minimum splits the difference for 8-8 with a decent chance at 10 wins.

Regards,
Chris

 

[Kontradiction]

People are psychologically dealing with this Covid-19 thing well, I see.

 

[sb1]

In 2000, the Pats went 5-11 in a pretty good AFCE, but lost 9 games by one score. That team converted only 35% of third downs (24th in league) and allowed 43.5% (28th). Red zone TD conversion rates were 43.4% for (24th) and 51.9% against (18th).

In 2001, the 3rd down conversion rates flipped: 41.2% for (8th) and 37.2% (15th) against. More noticeable was the improvement in red zone TD conversion rates, particularly on D: 48.1% for (16th) and 38.8% against (3rd).

I believe the 2020 Pats are closer to the 2001 team than the 2000 team solely due to the D, but I also think the O will be better than the 2000 offense in those key 3rd down and red zone TD situations. The 2000 team likely would have flipped a few of the close losses with marginally improved 3rd down and red zone TD differential that I think the 2020 team offers. With the midpoint between 2000 and 2001 win totals being 8 games, I think the 2020 team at a minimum splits the difference for 8-8 with a decent chance at 10 wins.

Regards,
Chris

In 2000, the Pats went 5-11 in a pretty good AFCE, but lost 9 games by one score. That team converted only 35% of third downs (24th in league) and allowed 43.5% (28th). Red zone TD conversion rates were 43.4% for (24th) and 51.9% against (18th).

In 2001, the 3rd down conversion rates flipped: 41.2% for (8th) and 37.2% (15th) against. More noticeable was the improvement in red zone TD conversion rates, particularly on D: 48.1% for (16th) and 38.8% against (3rd).

I believe the 2020 Pats are closer to the 2001 team than the 2000 team solely due to the D, but I also think the O will be better than the 2000 offense in those key 3rd down and red zone TD situations. The 2000 team likely would have flipped a few of the close losses with marginally improved 3rd down and red zone TD differential that I think the 2020 team offers. With the midpoint between 2000 and 2001 win totals being 8 games, I think the 2020 team at a minimum splits the difference for 8-8 with a decent chance at 10 wins.

Regards,
Chris

Bringing Antowain Smith here solved a lot of problems carried over from that 2000 team. Also helped Brady develop. I still would have voted for Smith over Brady as SB MVP. He was tremendous in that game.

 

[mgteich]

If he is you really know we’re tanking for Lawrence.

We'll talk in a couple of months. We'll see how much better our 4th OT is than Newhouse. Right now, that 4th OT is Cunningham.

I agree that Newhouse sucked when judged as a starter, even though we were undefeated when he started. However, if he is back, he won't our starting LT, our backup swing OT. He would be our #4 OT.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

That’s what Jets thought after Namath left.

Well, they still have the Ryan/Sanchez dynasty to look back on!

 

[n1997y]

Throw in a mad dog's bite and ferociousness.

Does Nike bite when he gets angry?