Coronavirus RESPECTFUL Discussion Only! (Mod edit: Closed)

[fightingirish595]

How a QAnon Coronavirus Conspiracy About Oprah Went Viral

I know someone who thinks this is really happening lmao

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

 

[fnordcircle]

How a QAnon Coronavirus Conspiracy About Oprah Went Viral

I know someone who thinks this is really happening lmao

I don't know how those people ever come back to reality.

 

[Nunchucks]

I don't know how those people ever come back to reality.

The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they think people are super competent and incompetent at the same time. It really makes no sense. Nevermind that people are terrible at big secrets.

 

[bormio]

You do understand that once enough people are sick (not to mention the drs and nurses getting sick because no protective equipment), the hospitals will be overwhelmed and a lot of people who desperately need treatment won't get it. At which point, the mortality rate with climb substantially. As in Italy where the current mortality rate is around 12 percent.

We will have to move resources around. Some areas will have surplus. We have over 3 times the ICU capacity per capita of Italy. Is it a concern - sure. Is it a given - no. A major epidemic always had this risk, and there is not all that much that really can be done to prepare. You cannot keep stuff on hand for a 100 year event. PPE has an expiration date. This is the first epidemic like this in the ICU-era. Before this, we simply let people die.

 

[Jangles]

Yet you have no rational reason why these numbers are ridiculous, other than that they seem high to you. And based on your posts, it seems you haven’t considered the methodology used by researchers to arrive at those numbers. How about explaining why the projections are off base rather than just waving your arms because the numbers don’t fit into your subjective model of the virus.

Because we're less than .1% of the way to those numbers...

Are there no doubt way more cases than have been confirmed? Of course. If anything that should be encouraging that this is significantly less fatal than previously thought.

 

[maust]

I don’t think I could say that with a straight face

Not for the first time it occurs to me we should play poker. Maybe not anytime soon under the circumstances but sometime after this apocalypse

 

[venecol]

A major epidemic always had this risk, and there is not all that much that really can be done to prepare. You cannot keep stuff on hand for a 100 year event. PPE has an expiration date. This is the first epidemic like this in the ICU-era. Before this, we simply let people die.

You need to work on your bedside manners Dr.
Lol

 

[maust]

Take away NY and Washington, the number of coronavirus deaths in this country would be quite low.

We never should have let NY and Washington dock

 

[Deus Irae]

Oh shnikies. @Jangles

13 thousand in just half a day added to the list.

Don't worry Mr "it's just the flu".

C'mon, man.


The number of confirmed cases is going to jump, as the testing is ramping up. This has been known, and discussed, for some time now.

 

[italian pat patriot]

Italy is clearly a disaster - social distancing does not appear to be working. Maybe it was too late or incomplete. But Italians often live as multigenerational families and sending everyone home may end up killing thousands of elderly. The elderly need to isolate as much as possible.

One of our experts here looks astonished the numbers that are much more negative then expected

It is really difficult to start to fully understand the situation...

 

[maust]

Counter-proposal, you head to Breitbart to post foolish "information" like the rest of 'em.

Is it just me or is there a certain irony in a patsfans paid supporter being told to "get off our forum" by someone who isn't?

 

[italian pat patriot]

You do understand that once enough people are sick (not to mention the drs and nurses getting sick because no protective equipment), the hospitals will be overwhelmed and a lot of people who desperately need treatment won't get it. At which point, the mortality rate with climb substantially. As in Italy where the current mortality rate is around 12 percent.

This is correct and what i wrote many days ago here

THIS IS THE POINT

 

[italian pat patriot]

Now also Spain start to have infortunately "bad numbers" and they have less capacity intensive care beds compared to Italy

 

[SHOWTIME15]

We never should have let NY and Washington dock

You are probably correct

 

[LuRkeR1978]

Do you have a "it's just the flu" image?

Like this?

 

[Deus Irae]

Italy is clearly a disaster - social distancing does not appear to be working. Maybe it was too late or incomplete. But Italians often live as multigenerational families and sending everyone home may end up killing thousands of elderly. The elderly need to isolate as much as possible.

Just to toss in some information, without getting into the politics on any side:

Italy had a lot of specific issues which put it into this position. From the high number of Chinese there (and the Belt and road initiative), to the migrant issues, to the mayor of Florence and his "hug a Chinese" campaign, to the high percentage of people over 65, it was a country with a unique combination of circumstances that put it on this path.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

You do understand that once enough people are sick (not to mention the drs and nurses getting sick because no protective equipment), the hospitals will be overwhelmed and a lot of people who desperately need treatment won't get it. At which point, the mortality rate with climb substantially. As in Italy where the current mortality rate is around 12 percent.

The US will be better equipped than Italy at handling this...

 

[Deus Irae]

 

[maust]

You go to Maine, Vermont, upstate NY, or places like Montana or the Dakotas, it's very different and hopefully there will be nowhere near the percentage of infections. Far less travel into those areas during those 2 months, and much less social interaction to begin with.

Except there's been a marked increase in travel to those areas in the past few weeks.
Around a year and a half ago my wife and I leased out our primary residence on the North Shore and started 'year rounding' in what had been our vacation home in Maine. In the past few weeks we have been seeing many of the nominally seasonal homes in the area occupied 3 months earlier than normal and an almost summertime level of NY and MA license plates on the roads.