The Tom Brady rumor thread

[Kontradiction]

Only reasons this is coming up as being entertained is he had a very mediocre playoff run and Super Bowl and if he is traded/cut his residual cap hit is only $4m.

If he had a great SB and a big dead cap # we aren't even talking about this.

If he had just the big dead cap # we still aren't talking about it.

Dumping a 27 year old Jimmy for a 43 year old Tom is dumb.

It depends on how much longer you think San Fran’s window is going to be open.

 

[1960Pats]

Oh he can come back at a 43 year old price. Say 15 a year plus the dead money sounds fair to me. Not 20 or 25 or 30. It will end at some point if this is it so be it.

Can’t wait however to go on Team X’s forum when he misses camp days or practices and isn’t on the same page as his WR’s again. And how not having a Jules or Gronk will highlight is age. Those young gun WRs may think it is all awesome to work with TB, until it is time to actually do it.

So many questions.

What does the "O" stand for in OTA?

Was TB on the wrong page or was it the lousy WR's and TE's?

Did the loss of the starting center and both FB's, as well as the loss of the LT for most of the season, mean anything?

 

[Sicilian]

What does the "O" stand for in OTA?

I'm not on team "Brady is a bum for not going to OTAs" but I'm guessing you're insinuating it stands for Optional, when in fact it stands for Organized.

Carry on though.

 

[RobertWeathers]

It depends on how much longer you think San Fran’s window is going to be open.

Yea I think they have a lot of FAs in 2021 but I'm not sure in 2021 a 44 year old QB is better than a 29 year old one approaching his prime years.

 

[goheels22002]

Tom Brady lists his two demands for free agent suitors,

Brady's two "demands" is that he have control over the roster and wants to be part of the decision making on play calling.

The play calling thing is sort of ridiculous. He has control at the line of scrimmage, and the relationship with with his OCs has always been excellent. I'm sure Josh and BB would be willing to work with him on game preparation and play calling if there is another way he'd like to have more influence.

"Control of the roster" is where I get the hives. Hmm...if he's such a hotshot at building rosters, maybe Brady should retire and become a GM. That isn't gonna happen here, nor would we want such a thing. Roster control involves so many things - cap space, free agency, draft picks, injuries, performance, incentives, etc. I doubt Brady has the time for that as the QB of the NEP.

Brady sounds like someone who is ready to retire and move on to the C-Suite.

I'm doubtful that Mike Mayock is ready to relinquish control of the roster to Brady in Las Vegas.

 

[Deus Irae]

Tom Brady lists his two demands for free agent suitors,

Brady's two "demands" is that he have control over the roster and wants to be part of the decision making on play calling.

The play calling thing is sort of ridiculous. He has control at the line of scrimmage, and the relationship with with his OCs has always been excellent. I'm sure Josh and BB would be willing to work with him on game preparation and play calling if there is another way he'd like to have more influence.

"Control of the roster" is where I get the hives. Hmm...if he's such a hotshot at building rosters, maybe Brady should retire and become a GM. That isn't gonna happen here, nor would we want such a thing. Roster control involves so many things - cap space, free agency, draft picks, injuries, performance, incentives, etc. I doubt Brady has the time for that as the QB of the NEP.

Brady sounds like someone who is ready to retire and move on to the C-Suite.

I'm doubtful that Mike Mayock is ready to relinquish control of the roster to Brady in Las Vegas.

Both "demands" make perfect sense. Neither should be a problem for a pursuing team. Any minor issue should be a matter of degree, not kind.

1. Play calling: Brady wants to take his system with him. That's what Peyton did, and it worked out well for him.
2. Offensive personnel: After last year, the reason for this is obvious

That article is a non-story, really.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Tom Brady lists his two demands for free agent suitors,

Brady's two "demands" is that he have control over the roster and wants to be part of the decision making on play calling.

The play calling thing is sort of ridiculous. He has control at the line of scrimmage, and the relationship with with his OCs has always been excellent. I'm sure Josh and BB would be willing to work with him on game preparation and play calling if there is another way he'd like to have more influence.

"Control of the roster" is where I get the hives. Hmm...if he's such a hotshot at building rosters, maybe Brady should retire and become a GM. That isn't gonna happen here, nor would we want such a thing. Roster control involves so many things - cap space, free agency, draft picks, injuries, performance, incentives, etc. I doubt Brady has the time for that as the QB of the NEP.

Brady sounds like someone who is ready to retire and move on to the C-Suite.

I'm doubtful that Mike Mayock is ready to relinquish control of the roster to Brady in Las Vegas.

 

[goheels22002]

Both "demands" make perfect sense. Neither should be a problem for a pursuing team. Any minor issue should be a matter of degree, not kind.

1. Play calling: Brady wants to take his system with him. That's what Peyton did, and it worked out well for him.
2. Offensive personnel: After last year, the reason for this is obvious

That article is a non-story, really.

I agree that foremost this is a non-story to fill the void. However, I do think that Brady might be thinking that the grass is greener on the other side of the fence when it comes to assembling a roster. He is right to feel that he did not have what he needed to succeed around him. But that was not by design.

Last year, Belichick blew it by failing to find a modest replacement for Gronk. The offensive line fell apart due to injuries. The loss of James Develin, Andrews, and Wynn in both pass protection and the rushing game cannot be underestimated.

The running back group was fine if the OL was intact from 2018, and the receiving corps was addressed early with the rookies joining Edelman, Josh Gordon, Demaryius Thomas and Dorsett. The screw-up was dumping Thomas and jumping into the AB clown car while the line was beyond repair even for Dante Scarnecchia.

I join those who think Brady is a bit of jerk when it comes to rookie receivers. Meyers and Harry are good players who could have benefited from a lot more generosity of knowledge and wisdom from their QB last season.

 

[Deus Irae]

The running back group was fine if the OL was intact from 2018, and the receiving corps was addressed early with the rookies joining Edelman, Josh Gordon, Demaryius Thomas and Dorsett. The screw-up was dumping Thomas and jumping into the AB clown car while the line was beyond repair even for Dante Scarnecchia.

I join those who think Brady is a bit of jerk when it comes to rookie receivers. Meyers and Harry are good players who could have benefited from a lot more generosity of knowledge and wisdom from their QB last season.

???

1. The RB group was not fine, because the RB1 is a problem.
2. The WR group was not addressed early, and that was the problem. Tossing Gordon in there is folly, given that the team did nothing there. That was purely the league's call, and it was late into the offseason.
3. The Brady hates Rookie WRs thing is silly, and obviously nonsense, as Malcolm Mitchell demonstrated.

 

[Hyped]

- I am actually a bit surprised that Brady's destination storyline is taking a back seat to the pandemic we have right now. Unprecedented times.....

- 3 more days until we know if there's a CBA renewal or not.

- If NFL doesn't delay free agency...I expect some substantial news to materialize on Sunday or Monday. We will know then, IMO.

- The Bucs talk worries me though.....and I think the Chargers are gonna make a big play as well. I think San Francisco is a pipe dream, but the Niners haven't come out to say that Garoppollo is THEIR QB like Gruden did for Oakland....and not sure Oakland is out of the bidding yet...I think they could be interested if they can bid silently.

 

[ViperGTS]

So many questions.

What does the "O" stand for in OTA?

Was TB on the wrong page or was it the lousy WR's and TE's?

Did the loss of the starting center and both FB's, as well as the loss of the LT for most of the season, mean anything?

Organized. There already is limited time to get on the same page as receivers. Every snap counts, every rep counts as the prior version of TB always pointed out.

The new age TB doesn’t feel the same way. Good luck on his body holding up to that now.

 

[farn]

Hypothetical : what if no one wants Brady ? King speculating Bridgewater over Brady in Tampa.

Brady (rightfully) has pride. Does he “take any offer” because he wants to keep playing, regardless of how strong the team is ?

Obviously, all rumours are to be taken as such - rumours - but it’d be an interesting turn of events if there is no demand.

 

[Love The Drake]

Hypothetical : what if no one wants Brady ? King speculating Bridgewater over Brady in Tampa.

Brady (rightfully) has pride. Does he “take any offer” because he wants to keep playing, regardless of how strong the team is ?

Obviously, all rumours are to be taken as such - rumours - but it’d be an interesting turn of events if there is no demand.

I’ve been driving this point

 

[Hyped]

I wanted to add a theory I have been thinking about...

What *if* BB and Brady already have a deal in place, but purposely allow Brady to hit FA as Brady is the first domino that must fall before many other deals are done and until Brady makes his decision....the Patriots could take advantage and strike deals with Hunter Henry, Emmanuel Sanders, Nelson Agholor, 1-2 offensive linemen, and etc... then resign Brady.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Tom Brady lists his two demands for free agent suitors,

Brady's two "demands" is that he have control over the roster and wants to be part of the decision making on play calling.

The play calling thing is sort of ridiculous. He has control at the line of scrimmage, and the relationship with with his OCs has always been excellent. I'm sure Josh and BB would be willing to work with him on game preparation and play calling if there is another way he'd like to have more influence.

"Control of the roster" is where I get the hives. Hmm...if he's such a hotshot at building rosters, maybe Brady should retire and become a GM. That isn't gonna happen here, nor would we want such a thing. Roster control involves so many things - cap space, free agency, draft picks, injuries, performance, incentives, etc. I doubt Brady has the time for that as the QB of the NEP.

Brady sounds like someone who is ready to retire and move on to the C-Suite.

I'm doubtful that Mike Mayock is ready to relinquish control of the roster to Brady in Las Vegas.

Zero chance Belichick is giving him any control of the roster...

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Control of the roster? No way.
Of course, this alleged demand could be total fake news.
If TFB does not have faith in BB's offensive personnel plan for 2020 after mutual discussions, Tom could well consider a better offensive personnel situation elsewhere. That would make sense as a good reason to depart. Sadly.
Play calling? A QB like Brady should have lots of control as he has already had with his frequent checkdowns at the LOS. Issues arise in circumstances like 4th & whatever and on 3rd & goals where coaching staff likely in a better position to assess odds.

 

[Deus Irae]

Zero chance Belichick is giving him any control of the roster...

Funny



We were told that Sanu was Brady's choice over Sanders.

 

[Love The Drake]

Funny



We were told that Sanu was Brady's choice over Sanders.

Then teams should run from him being a GM

 

[Kontradiction]

Funny



We were told that Sanu was Brady's choice over Sanders.

Yikes. Maybe he shouldn’t have a say over personnel.

 

[Deus Irae]

Then teams should run from him being a GM

Yikes. Maybe he shouldn’t have a say over personnel.

Brady should have foreseen that Sanu would get injured returning punts? Seems like a "Brady the coach is killing Brady the GM" sort of take.