NFLPA committee voted for new CBA.

[FreeTedWilliams]

I am critical of the union’s lack of unity. Baseball, by contrast, has a very strong union. Football, not so much. Perhaps it is because they have shorter seasons and shorter careers in average.

Baseball careers are much longer, so they can hold out more. If your window for making money is as small as 4 years. Now they are saying the average NFL career is under three years! Very hard to get anyone to strike and give up 1/3 of their total career earnings.

Some guys make a ton of money in the NFL, however, the majority of the players, do not, and by appealing to those players, the NFL will probably get their labor deal done.

 

[Deus Irae]

The 2020 rookie league minimum is a little bit more than half a million dollars. The average American salary is just under $50k. So the lowest paid NFL rookie is getting more than an average American's 10 year salary total.

 

[Hyped]

Why extend the voting another two days??? Apparently, it is super easy for players to vote.

Come on!

 

[Kontradiction]

Eric Reid hired his own lawyers to review the whole CBA. He's posted their summary.

I might have to stop what I’m doing, take a knee, and read this real quick.

 

[Deus Irae]

Russell Okung, one of the most outspoken opponents of the proposed Collective Bargaining Agreement, filed an unfair labor practice charge with the National Labor Relations Board on Monday, Ken Belson of the New York Times reports...

... The three-page filing accuses the union’s staff, including executive director DeMaurice Smith, of forcing a vote on the deal over the objection’s of the executive committee in violation of the NFLPA’s constitution, according to Belson.

Russell Okung accuses NFLPA staff of "bad faith" in CBA negotiations - ProFootballTalk

 

[lancerman]

I don't have a dog in this fight. But if Bob Kraft can solicit prostitutes, so should every single player be allowed to

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Gotta be kidding me. And players are asking for a bullet point comparison to the 2011 CBA. The level of unpreparedness is stunning, but maybe it’s intentional. Has DeMaurice Smith ever scored a victory for the players? Seems the only time they’ve pushed back has been in court because of Kesler.

Now I’m certain they’re getting a really crappy deal and NFLPA leadership is trying to push this through. A 10 year deal with no opt out raises enormous red flags...and on top of that it seems like a rushed, disorganized voting process where most of the players don’t know what they’re voting for.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I don't have a dog in this fight. But if Bob Kraft can solicit prostitutes, so should every single player be allowed to

Only if the players “thought they really had something” with the rub and tug masseuse like Early Bird Bob.

 

[DaBruinz]

Eric Reid hired his own lawyers to review the whole CBA. He's posted their summary.

I read their summarization and it came across as them trying to placate their client.

- They purposely misrepresent the career lengths. We've talked about this.

- Not sure what revenue from Biometric sensors they're referring to.

- Attendance revenue is a pittance compared to TV revenue, but the lawyers make it sound like it's a large amount.

- There is no guarantee that adding the 17th game will equate to more injuries. Especially since they talked about removing one of the pre-season games.

- The lawyers ignore the expansion of the active roster, game day roster and practice squad rosters entirely. All of which would go towards off-setting potential injuries and extra work.

- The lawyers ignore the fact that the 17th game will bring with it a significant increase in TV revenue and a slight increase in revenue from attendance. As a result the players will see the overall cap jump significantly. Meaning that players with contracts that have expired will be able to take advantage of the increase in cap space.

- There is nothing that says players have to take split contracts.

The lawyers' summarization ignored everything positive the players would be receiving.
- Increase 401K matching
- Tuition payments
- Improved facilities throughout the league
- the Hospital network
- Increased post-career healthcare benefits
- Expansion of the Game Day, Active, and Player Squad rosters
- Increases in the minimum salaries
- Increases in the minimum salary benefit
- Increase in Performance Based Pay Benefit
- Increases in Restricted Free Agent tenders
- Increase in Practice Squad Player Salaries
- Increases in all Off-season Program pay
- Escalators for picks in rounds 2-7.
- Pension increase of 10%. Expansion of Pension eligibility to all former players with 3 accrued seasons.
- Annuity increase to 110k with 15K increases every other year.
- HRA increased to 35K with 50K increases every year.
- HRA of $50K for all post-career vested veterans who don't have one.
- 100% Salary Protection for Injury up to $2M.

And this doesn't include the reduction in team activities during TC. Which, according to the lawyers, would also lead to a reduction in injuries. Though, again, there is no proof of this..

 

[DaBruinz]

Gotta be kidding me. And players are asking for a bullet point comparison to the 2011 CBA. The level of unpreparedness is stunning, but maybe it’s intentional. Has DeMaurice Smith ever scored a victory for the players? Seems the only time they’ve pushed back has been in court because of Kesler.

Now I’m certain they’re getting a really crappy deal and NFLPA leadership is trying to push this through. A 10 year deal with no opt out raises enormous red flags...and on top of that it seems like a rushed, disorganized voting process where most of the players don’t know what they’re voting for.

There was no opt out clause in the previous 10 year deal. Just saying.

 

[DaBruinz]

Russell Okung accuses NFLPA staff of "bad faith" in CBA negotiations - ProFootballTalk

It is odd that they forced the vote. When I was looking at things, I could have sworn that the only way a full vote could take place was with a 66% approval of the Player Reps. With a 17-14 vote, that is only 54%. Which would ssupport Okung's claim.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Ben Watson has been elected to the Executive Committe of the NFLPA.

 

[Kontradiction]

Gotta be kidding me. And players are asking for a bullet point comparison to the 2011 CBA. The level of unpreparedness is stunning, but maybe it’s intentional. Has DeMaurice Smith ever scored a victory for the players? Seems the only time they’ve pushed back has been in court because of Kesler.

Now I’m certain they’re getting a really crappy deal and NFLPA leadership is trying to push this through. A 10 year deal with no opt out raises enormous red flags...and on top of that it seems like a rushed, disorganized voting process where most of the players don’t know what they’re voting for.

They don’t. The majority of players are idiots.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

So I guess the clock is still going off at midnight tonight.

I think if they have a new CBA, it clears up the parameters of the Brady deal.

 

[Ross12]

So I guess the clock is still going off at midnight tonight.

I think if they have a new CBA, it clears up the parameters of the Brady deal.

Is it? It's become increasingly confusing IMO.

 

[festy1986]

will they release this news at 12am?

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Would hate to see the 32 worst people in America avoid financial losses. Hopefully the CBA is rejected too.

 

[Sciz]

will they release this news at 12am?

No, results aren’t expected until sometime tomorrow morning.

 

[ralmat55]

The NFLPA has voted to ratify new CBA per the NFL Network.