Antonio Brown

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Brown was no doubt sat down immediately upon arriving in NE and talked to by both Patriots' management and his personal lawyers, and told to stay laser focused on football and leave off-the-field chatter aside.

It took him a whopping 10 days to send those texts to that woman. Clearly the guy fundamentally could not follow instructions and control himself. He was a ticking time bomb, he cannot help himself, and his behavior pre, during, and post-Patriots indicates as much. It wasn't a matter of 'if', it was a matter of 'when'.

If people want to sh*t on the Patriots for having a standard of conduct, holding their players accountable, and releasing them if they do not meet that standard of conduct, that's their prerogative. Personally, I applaud them for doing so.

He texted her when when Klemko dug up the case and made it a front page story, at which point there were more calls to release/investigate him. Are you really saying the guy should be a robot and ignore legal actions taken against him? I don’t agree with the way he texted her, but sheesh. The fact is he was at every practice working hard, being a good teammate, and fulfilling all his obligations to the team. That Kraft would demand that he says out of his own legal matters is beyond hypocritical.

I don’t think a lot of people realize what real character problems are for diva NFL players and their effect on the locker room. Tons of these guys have off-field drama. Brown was in a great place in terms of football and his teammates were embracing him. It’s not like he was TO telling the press about how he wants the ball more or **** like that.

 

[Huckleberry1]

How will you feel when Tyreek Hill dances in the end zone vs the Pats while everyone marvels about his speed and doesn’t care about his off field issues? Was his threat that his baby momma “should be scared of him” over the line after he beat her to a pulp a few years ago? After about two months no one cares anymore. The Chiefs even extended him. Think of how much worse that is. Brown is a dink, but not on Hill’s level. Most importantly the team had a whole week to work on his behavior before Bendover Bob **** his pants. The really, actually could be the difference between a Super Bowl win and coming up short.

If Gordon becomes ineligible, the pitchforks will come out at Bob. At least he beat his own rap, though. Hope they leak the video.

Won’t bother me one bit, I would rather see them lose without that piece of sh.t than win with him. Some things matter more than football, and how women are treated is definitely one of them.

 

[shmessy]

Are you being dense? The field he financed was after he owned the team for 6 years, when 6 of those years were pure sellouts. No crap he could afford it at that point. He practically tripled his investment by 2000.

The team itself didn't even eclipse a worth of 1 billion until 2005. So tell me again, how Brady had nothing to do with it?

He wasn't a billionaire when he purchased the team in 1994. That fact that you're twisting yourself into a pretzel to try and make it real is confusing.

You wrote "multi-millionaire".

OMG - - you actually think BB as HC and Brady as QB were with the Patriots before 2000!!!!

Holy crap!!!!!!

You yourself wrote "The field he financed was after he owned the team for 6 years, when 6 of those years were pure sellouts. No crap he could afford it at that point. He practically tripled his investment by 2000."

Not to mention, you somehow believe the Patriots eclipsed $1 billion in 2005 and that means he did only then - - - ummmmmm, the Patriots is ONE of his businesses. But please tell us all again how it was BB and Brady who made him a billionaire?

You are like AB. You simply can't help yourself!

 

[Todd Bradley]

You said "multi-millionaire".

OMG - - you actually think BB as HC and Brady as QB were with the Patriots before 2000!!!!

Holy crap!!!!!!

You yourself wrote "The field he financed was after he owned the team for 6 years, when 6 of those years were pure sellouts. No crap he could afford it at that point. He practically tripled his investment by 2000."

You are like AB. You simply can't help yourself!

Bro what the hell are you talking about?

Was Kraft a billionaire in 1994: No.
Was he after Brady and Bill starting winning: Yes.

End of story. You're literally not discussing a thing here that needs to be re-said.

 

[aluminum seats]

If people want to sh*t on the Patriots for having a standard of conduct, holding their players accountable, and releasing them if they do not meet that standard of conduct, that's their prerogative. Personally, I applaud them for doing so.

Well, that gets to the heart of it, really. Gives me a poll idea...

 

[shmessy]

Bro what the hell are you talking about?

Was Kraft a billionaire in 1994: No.
Was he after Brady and Bill starting winning: Yes

End of story. You're literally not discussing a thing here that needs to be re-said.

Obviously something you cannot comprehend, son.

You wrote "multi-millionaire". And BB/Brady did not arrive in 1994. You're dizzy.

You also mistakenly fell into some truth when you pasted up a Googled "The field he financed was after he owned the team for 6 years, when 6 of those years were pure sellouts. No crap he could afford it at that point. He practically tripled his investment by 2000."

Kraft was a billionaire by 2000, before he hired BB who then drafted Brady. He already owned Rand Whitney, International Forest Products, the New England Revolution and other businesses by that time. But the Patriots are the only one from which you have posters on your bedroom wall.

You need to get your head out of comic books, because the adults aren't buying it.

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[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Won’t bother me one bit, I would rather see them lose without that piece of sh.t than win with him. Some things matter more than football, and how women are treated is definitely one of them.

Edelman was a POS when he sexually assaulted that woman at a nightclub in 2011 too, right? After all, an allegation was made against him. How can root for the Patriots then?

Oh that’s right, you forgot that allegations and facts not the same thing.

So at this point his only “known” wrongdoing was an ambiguous text message which, while I could understand the woman being very upset, was very likely not meant to be a threat against her kids. As I pointed out earlier, Bobby wanted every member of the Jupiter PD’s investigative team given a cavity search and all their dirty laundry aired out. Okay to play hardball when allegations are against Bobby; immediate release otherwise. The guy is a flaming hypocrite.

 

[Todd Bradley]

Obviously something you cannoit comprehend, son.

You wrote "multi-millionaire".

You also mistakenly conceded "The field he financed was after he owned the team for 6 years, when 6 of those years were pure sellouts. No crap he could afford it at that point. He practically tripled his investment by 2000."

Kraft was a billionaire by 2000, before he hired BB who then drafted Brady. He already owned Rand Whitney, International Forest Products, the New England revolution and other businesses by that time. But the Patriots are the only one from which you have posters on your bedroom wall.

You need to get your head out of comic books, because the adults aren't buying it.

LMAO he wasn't, but it's clear that you and Clowntum are wearing your Bendover Bob undies today and really, really, really want him to have been a billionaire prior to Brady's ascension.

The adults who don't live to eat up good ol' Bobby ain't buying it.

 

[shmessy]

Won’t bother me one bit, I would rather see them lose without that piece of sh.t than win with him. Some things matter more than football, and how women are treated is definitely one of them.

Not to some of the In-Cels here.

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[libra957]

Brady got mad too when they traded Welker and several former players, he'll get over it.

 

[shmessy]

LMAO he wasn't, but it's clear that you and Clowntum are wearing your Bendover Bob undies today and really, really, really want him to have been a billionaire prior to Brady's ascension.

The adults who don't live to eat up good ol' Bobby ain't buying it.

Actual business facts confuse you, son. Have a lemonade.

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[shmessy]

Brady got mad too when they traded Welker and several former players, he'll get over it.

He was most pissed when BB cut Milloy right before the 2003 season. They were close and if I recall correctly, Brady and Law went over to Milloy's apartment after if happened and they vented. That was what sparked the greatly exaggerated Tom Jackson comment on TV the following Sunday.

The comic book brigade should ask their parents about that one. Brady is quiet and content compared to the "disaster" of 2003. This is NOTHING compared to that.

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[Todd Bradley]

Actual business facts confuse you, son. Have a lemonade.

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You haven't presented a single fact. You're egregiously inflating his net worth based on low cost purchases he made prior to the Super Bowl wins.

The team itself didn't eclipase a billion until 2005. So okay, he hit the billion mark with his total net worth in 2003 after the team won two titles? Woah. And now he's worth a cool 7 billion, go figure. I guess Brady had nothing to do with any of that, huh?

If we're going to talk about lemonade and comic books, let's agree to disagree here and save us some brain cells

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Oh wonderful, not only do we cut him, we have to pay a huge chunk of his salary...

 

[Mack Herron]

Safe to say this is not the best case scenario.

 

[Patstastic]

Oh wonderful, not only do we cut him, we have to pay a huge chunk of his salary...

Will need to really do some maneuvering to add players in the future. Cap hell.

The reason they likely have to pay him is because he played in Miami. Four days after the sexual assault allegations came out.

 

[TommyD4207]

He was most pissed when BB cut Milloy right before the 2003 season. They were close and if I recall correctly, Brady and Law went over to Milloy's apartment after if happened and they vented. That was what sparked the greatly exaggerated Tom Jackson comment on TV the following Sunday.

The comic book brigade should ask their parents about that one. Brady is quiet and content compared to the "disaster" of 2003.

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Logan Mankins too, lest we forget. Of course, he gets traded, the Patriots start winning Super Bowls again.

 

[patfanken]

I know this is a little off topic I just have a bone to pick with this sentence. Are you serious to think that a player like AB on the field with a QB like Brady doesn’t raise this offense from quite good to transcendent? It would make a huge difference.

We saw in 2007 what happened when two excellent receivers were brought in and how huge the jump was from the 2006 offense to the 2007 offense and a near perfect season. Of course you can jump on the Mike Felger position that “they didn’t win that final game, everything was a failure, Moss wasn’t a difference maker” etc. But you’d be wrong.

I think this stance of yours is absolutely bizarre and at odds with what we’ve seen with this team. Offenses with great, extremely talented receivers to compliment an elite QB make a big difference. You only need to look at 2006 and 2013 to see how obvious this is.

Interesting points, but the evidence belies your contention. If what you say is true, why haven't guys like AB, Jones, Green, CJohnson, Ocho, OBJ, etc, etc, etc played in more playoff games and superbowls. It isn't/wasn't because they are bad players. No, in fact as individuals several ARE transcendent at their position.

Maybe I can give you some clarity with my position if I ask a question. Given the choice of having AB on the team or Aaron Donald on the team (arguably the best player at their respective positions), which would you pick. The guy who might get 10 targets on offense, or the guy who can effect EVERY defensive play he plays? BTW - it's a rhetorical question.

 

[maust]

If you bet on that you can make a lot of money.

Or he could lose his Mom's house.

 

[shmessy]

Interesting points, but the evidence belies your contention. If what you say is true, why haven't guys like AB, Jones, Green, CJohnson, Ocho, OBJ, etc, etc, etc played in more playoff games and superbowls. It isn't/wasn't because they are bad players. No, in fact as individuals several ARE transcendent at their position......

Not only that - - but the entire group is ringless.

A good convo would be "Which is the last team to win a Super Bowl with a top-3 WR on the roster"?

Maybe 2015 - Demaryius Thomas??? Arguable.

Maybe 2010 - Greg Jennings? Arguable.

Maybe 2009 - Santonio Holmes?

......but they DO make for entertaining highlight films......

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