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N’Keal Harry being put on IR

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Still their overall Drafting have been better and thats's a FACT they rarely have a Flame-out Drafts. The difference for the Patriots have been the GOAT of QB's and HC's.
Are you saying since 2000 the Steelers have been better at drafting than NE?
 
Yes, because all 53 players on a salary cap roster are supposed to be Pro Bowl players.

It's a puzzle. Dorsett fits his piece extremely well. So do Brandon Bolden, Ted Karras, etc.

It's crucial on a 53 man roster that the #44 is the best #44 possible. One of BB's most famous quotes was about assembling a TEAM, not just collecting talent.

Anyone who doesn't understand the fundamental meaning of that quote does not understand the New England Patriots.

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#1 Patroits fan.
 
You're admitting you expect Pittsburgh WRs to succeed because of history. You're admitting you expect New England WRs to fail because of history. I get it, but again, you're clearly swaying your opinion in the direction you expect. And I'm not denying the history of either team. But if that's all it took, Megatron should have been a complete flop in Detroit. Did you see the 1st round WRs they took before him?
I'm just calling balls and strikes.

I expect Pitt WRs to succeed like I expect NE offensive lineman to succeed.

You can't have it both ways when you expect Pat's OL to be ok after 19 years of proof.
 
Like, the Pats suck at drafting WRs. Branch and Givens in 19 years is piss poor.

This is drafted by the Patriots WR Julian Edelman with the Superbowl MVP award



There have been 4 WRs that have won the SB MVP in the last 22 years.

2 of them were drafted by Pittsburgh. 2 of them were drafted by New England
 
I'm just calling balls and strikes.

I expect Pitt WRs to succeed like I expect NE offensive lineman to succeed.

You can't have it both ways when you expect Pat's OL to be ok after 19 years of proof.


Over the past 19 years? 6-2.

Figure out what that means, kid.

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Over the past 19 years? 6-2.

Figure out what that means, kid.

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There is still time to edit this post. Congrats on being the #1 Patroits fan.
 
I'm just calling balls and strikes.

I expect Pitt WRs to succeed like I expect NE offensive lineman to succeed.

You can't have it both ways when you expect Pat's OL to be ok after 19 years of proof.

But you're moving the goalposts on what proof you need. You need very little proof to show a Steelers WR is a hit, and very little proof that a Patriots WR is a bust.

Let's say the Patriots WR group turns out to be very strong this year. Gordon stays clean and plays great, Thomas is reborn and Edelman is his old self. Even Dorsett has some big games. Harry comes back healthy but is deep on the depth chart. In half a season, he duplicates Washington's numbers: 16 catches, 217 yards and a TD. Next off-season all reports are that he's ready to step up into a bigger role. You'll never convince me you'd treat him anything close to how you're treating Washington right now.
 
I hope he can live up to the draft status but if Meyers develops into a productive WR in this offense it doesn't really matter what happens to Harry.

Also Gunner looks like a gamer. And he looks like he's got some speed.

If Stidham is the QB of the future, then at the very least he's got chemistry with Meyers.
 
There is still time to edit this post. Congrats on being the #1 Patroits fan.


Edit???

I didn't spell it that way. Triumph did. I cannot edit his posts. Sorry, can't help ya there.

Perhaps he was making a comment about the Lions trying hard to emulate the Pats?

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Nobody is saying that at all.

Burress
Brown
Wallace
Holmes
Juju
Sanders
Ward

Pitt has done a very good job finding Stud WRs in the draft.

So they've drafted 7 WR in 20 years. WOW. So you go ahead and take the 7 WRs and i'll take Pats drafting the GOAT QB and having 6 SBs in 18 years.
 
But you're moving the goalposts on what proof you need. You need very little proof to show a Steelers WR is a hit, and very little proof that a Patriots WR is a bust.

Let's say the Patriots WR group turns out to be very strong this year. Gordon stays clean and plays great, Thomas is reborn and Edelman is his old self. Even Dorsett has some big games. Harry comes back healthy but is deep on the depth chart. In half a season, he duplicates Washington's numbers: 16 catches, 217 yards and a TD. Next off-season all reports are that he's ready to step up into a bigger role. You'll never convince me you'd treat him anything close to how you're treating Washington right now.


Exactly. God Bless the Patriot Way (and let's pray the rest of the league keeps thinking like Triumph - - which is the REAL reason why Brady/BB are staying in there longer than they thought years ago) Hopefully, Dorsett does a great job of being the #4 or #5 WR . It's a 53 man game of Traffic Jam. Each piece simply needs to do their job. The other teams eventually lose focus and crap out. It's beautiful to watch!

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he was their number 1 draft pick lol. Not some third rd pick. when you are drafted number 1 expectations are high and rightfully so. he was expected to make a significant contribution. Especially when the team drafting the player never picked a WR in the first rd since the 90s. And there history drafting that position isn't good. Its bad he's on IR. I know it's not what you want to hear. But its true.

At least it's not a season ending injury and he can come back during the season. Unlike Isaiah Wynn, a higher pick they lost last year.

They can survive the loss of Harry.

 
Edit???

I didn't spell it that way. Triumph did. I cannot edit his posts. Sorry, can't help ya there.

Perhaps he was making a comment about the Lions trying hard to emulate the Pats?

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I was talking about the 6-2 part.
 
So they've drafted 7 WR in 20 years. WOW. So you go ahead and take the 7 WRs and i'll take Pats drafting the GOAT QB and having 6 SBs in 18 years.

I still don't understand Triumph's focus on just one unit in a sport where the Patriots have dominated the Steelers over the tme period he is carping about.

It's pretty funny.

'Yeah, but all those years the Jets had that All-Pro Center with the long hair while we had???????????'
 
At least it's not a season ending injury and he can come back during the season. Unlike Isaiah Wynn, a higher pick they lost last year.

They can survive the loss of Harry.




Agreed. But even with Wynn - - he got a red shirt year, the Pats got Trent Brown on the cheap and he dominated - - so now Wynn has had a year of maturing and being in the systrem and comes back a more polished product.

How many other teams can do that and not lose a step (actually, winning a Super Bowl)?

If Harry can't go the season at all and the Pats win the SB again, with Harry coming back next year fully healthy and with a year longer study the route tree, why would anyone cry "Yeah, but the 9-7 Steelers had James Washington putting up big numbers last year"??? The only fans who would be hurt by this would be those who play Fantasy and chose Harry. Personally, I could care less about someone's Fantasy team. I root for a real one.

Patriots Management is not Fantasy Football. Ya gotta love it!

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