KNUSNGH
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Alrite bro, I listened to the tape a 3rd time now because I'm biased against sub human pieces of ****.
Now, it don't matter if Hill didn't know he was being recorded. You tell us, and you use the word all, that we clearly didn't listen to the full audio. But did you even listen to the full audio? Do you not hear other people in the audio at different times? Do you not understand they're in a public place?
Listen here at around 9:22 from the youtube clip at the bottom I posted.
"You got it, there you go getting loud want everybody see us in the world"
Do you see? He's not going to be honest! He's fully aware of where he is.
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I don't understand where she is deflecting.
Around 2:23
Tyreek Hill: "And then when you get in the court room you wanna sit up there and ****ing cry on the stand, 'He hit me, he hit me', man come on bro"
Crystal Espinal: "then where did the bruises come from, Tyreek?"
(I'm paraphrasing the following since they kinda talk over each other and repeat the same **** over and over and I don't feel like transcribing it word for word)
TH: "Did I hit you?" CE: "where did the bruises come from" TH: "Did I hit you?" CE: "where did the bruises come from"
Where's the deflection? That's not deflection. You mean when Tyreek keeps repeating Did I hit you? Did I hit you? Did I hit you? Did I hit you? after she already responded with where did the bruises come from a few times? That's not deflection, listen at the way he's speaking to her, his tone, the way he keeps repeating it. Then she tries to get back to the topic she wanted to talk about. That's not deflection. That's her trying to get back on topic even though she did respond to his question with "where did the bruises come from"
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As for the rest of what those two pieces of **** said on the audio. They're both not going to spill the beans on how they both abuse their child. She knows it's recording, and he knows he's in public and he's a publicly recognizable person.
Just a few transcribed **** that is from the audio:
(around the 5 minute mark of youtube video below)
CE: "think about why a freaking three year old would tell everyone and everybody that you broke his arm, why would he do that?"
TH: "Because I'm the one that plays with him maybe that's why. You don't do **** with him. I'm the one that gets physical with it"
Gets physical with it? What is this? Sounds like abuse, but let's keep going...
(Around the 8:55 mark)
CE: "when he starts crying what do you do? You make him open up his arms and you punch him in the chest. and then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
TH: "Ok so what about you? What you gonna do, so...(gibberish)"
CE: "No I told him he gets whooped."
CE: "But I don't use a belt"
TH: "You do use a belt. That's sad. Even my momma says you use a belt."
CE: ""When have I used a belt?" "when have you seen me use a belt?" "When have I used a belt?"
(Around the 9:55 mark)
TH: "I would never ever hurt my son."
(Around the 10:50 mark)
TH: "If he's terrified of me, we was in that gym with all those kids then what, what about that?"
TH: "everywhere we go my son loves on me. Everywhere we go"
CE: "then we get home what is it"
TH: "When we get home it's for real, it's serious time, it's time to lock in cause he know I don't play. I want my son to learn respect something that you did not teach our son."
Yeah because that doesn't scream abuse.
Can't prove who abused the kid that time even though it seems to be clear they're both abusive towards the child. Innocent my ass.
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Apparently the entire audio tells a different story...
Ian Rapoport on D&K explains why he wasn't surprised with NFL not suspending Tyreek Hill
Oh, look at that… of course the homers here will twist it any way they can.
Also, she said “where did the bruises come from?” once, then deflected to his response. She didn’t deny him saying he “picked her up and put her out of the door” and never hit her.
Since you are hard of hearing, the deflection is clear:
“We’re not talking about that, we’re talking about our son.”
Also, nothing you quoted about what he said was child abuse, he talked about discipline and respect. You can not conclude child abuse from him saying he wants to teach his son respect (unless you are a “guilty until proven innocent” type, of course).
What you can conclude is that he said he never hit her or did anything she said he did. “Where did the bruises come from?” was her only response to him. A question in answer to a question — that is called deflection. He asked her multiple times “did I hit you?” She never said “yes.” She responded with:
1. A question.
2. “We aren’t talking about that right now.”
That isn’t deflection?
If he was a patriots player, you would be up in arms defending him right now. It’s people like you who make politics what they are: blind support of one side, blind hatred of the other. No logic or reason or objectivity.
You can be a fan of the Patriots and also not hate every person who wasn’t drafted by the Patriots. Shocking, I know.
Her refusing to answer whether he hit her or not, responding with a question, saying “we aren’t talking about that right now” — that doesn’t scream deflection?
If someone claims you raped them, then you ask “did I rape you?” and they answer, “where did the marks on my body come from?” And then, again, you ask, “did I rape you?” And they answer, “we aren’t talking about that right now.” That wouldn’t imply there’s some truth to what you are saying? Or any doubt to whether you actually raped her or not? She couldn’t even say “yes, you did choke me, you did punch me” — that isn’t odd to you? Not at all?
Now, if she lied about him hitting her and he pleaded guilty for PR, then why should she be believed for this child abuse case?
From the shared article:
Rapoport joined Dale & Keefe to explain why he wasn't baffled.
“Honestly, I am not [baffled]," he said. "This is something that we have been working on for a long time and I would say over the course of the last 48 hours trying to nail down that he was not going to be suspended or fined was probably what I did the most. I was expecting no suspension. I was expecting no fine. It basically read how I thought, honestly. There’s a couple things that went into it. Obviously, we know the audio that was released around the time of the draft was not good, and nothing good about that at all.
"Someone called me two days ago and said make sure you listen to the entire 11-minute audio. I said, ‘OK.’ So, I listened to the entire 11-minute audio that Crystal Espinal secretly recorded her and Tyreek Hill going through an airport and his comments come off very differently in that. She doesn’t deny when Hill said she basically made up the 2014 incident and she also admits that she knows Hill did not break the arm of her son.
There’s a lot in there. The NFL talked to Hill, they talked to people on both sides. They did not talk to Crystal Espinal, who did not make herself available for comment. The end result of all this was he wasn’t suspended."