Chris Hogan Signs With Panthers

[Raymond]

Key third down spectacular circus catch that kept an essential drive going in the AFC championship game. I'm not sure how good hes going to be moving forward but he wasn't a bum. He was a Patriot through and through
Thank you Chris Hogan

Key, yes, circus not so much. But I'll say his entire 2018 salary was worth not punting here at the 25. Go to the 1:25 spot.

This is so much fun to watch. 12 minutes of Chiefs pain.

 

[mgteich]

I understand your belief that we won't get much more. However, I have a bit different perspective.

I think that Dorsett is the clear #3 (chosen over Hogan), although it is indeed possible that someone could beat him out.

I have Ellington/Harris competing for the #4 WR spot perhaps with a rookie. For me, Gordon is the mythical #5 WR, if we even have one.

WR #1 - Edelman
WR #2 - ???
WR #3 - Dorsett
WR #4 - Ellington/Harris/rookie/fa/trade
WR #5 - Gordon/rookie/fa or no one

They've already signed players to replace Hogan.

WR1/WR2 - Edelman
WR1/WR2 - ?
WR3 - Dorsett/Elllington/Harris
WR4 - Dorsett/Elllington/Harris
WR5 - Dorsett/Elllington/Harris


They need to sign/draft players to replace Gordon. And, hopefully, they'll draft a developmental guy for the slot. And, of course, Gordon coming back would be a bonus, for as long as that lasted.

 

[Jimke]

• BB paid Moss.
• BB paid Welker for one year.

Outside of that, BB has made it pretty obvious that he doesn't feel that WR is an investment position, either in FA or the draft. TE is obviously where he'd rather invest.

Until BB is willing to open his wallet a little wider, I'm afraid he will have
to settle for injury prone players on minimum, one year contracts. He needs
the force to be with him in this month's draft.

 

[Deus Irae]

I understand your belief that we won't get much more. However, I have a bit different perspective.

I think that Dorsett is the clear #3 (chosen over Hogan), although it is indeed possible that someone could beat him out.

I have Ellington/Harris competing for the #4 WR spot perhaps with a rookie. For me, Gordon is the mythical #5 WR, if we even have one.

WR #1 - Edelman
WR #2 - ???
WR #3 - Dorsett
WR #4 - Ellington/Harris/rookie/fa/trade
WR #5 - Gordon/rookie/fa or no one

I may have written my post poorly, because I think you misunderstood it. It wouldn't surprise me to see the team go out and get a legit WR1/WR2, and it won't surprise me to see the team double dipping at WR with its first few picks. But the reason for that would be, as much as any perceived need at WR, the talent desert that is the current TE group.

The Patriots play offense from the inside out, unlike most teams. But, to have the best success in such a scheme, you need big guys who can take more of the pounding (TEs) (thus Graham/Watson and Gronk/Hernandez (high talent steal at the round taken) being taken the way they were). In the absence of such players, devoting capital to getting better WRs becomes more of a possibility, IMO.

As for the WR3, I'm pretty sure that I've been this board's biggest supporter of Dorsett, so I'm not trying to downplay him, and I agree with the idea of the Patriots having clearly chosen him over Hogan for this season. I'm just not going to slot him into that WR3 slot until he wins it outright, since he didn't have the job last year.

 

[Deus Irae]

Until BB is willing to open his wallet a little wider, I'm afraid he will have
to settle for injury prone players on minimum, one year contracts. He needs
the force to be with him in this month's draft.

WRs at the top were overpaid this year, and BB seems to have misjudged their market by more than $1m per year, which probably cost him each of the 2 'slot' WRs he wanted (dangerously assuming that reports were accurate). So BB will look at what's out there now, and at what gets cut loose (via trade or straight cut) post-draft. He may even pull the trigger on a trade involving draft capital.

However it comes about, I doubt that the team is done bringing in veteran WRs. And I think bringing DT in for a look was more than just the usual due diligence.

 

[Vatahala]

Interesting 16 page CH thread at Panthers message board. Most welcome his big game experience and lower price tag which allows them to cut the more expensive Torey Smith. It also allows a nice comparison of a well run Pats forum vs one that has at least 4 pages of insults among posters.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Key, yes, circus not so much. But I'll say his entire 2018 salary was worth not punting here at the 25. Go to the 1:25 spot.

This is so much fun to watch. 12 minutes of Chiefs pain.

Are we talking about the same play? The video you linked has the overtime catch he made a first down on. I'm talking the one in regulation where he went horizontal and snared it with one hand.

 

[Raymond]

Are we talking about the same play? The video you linked has the overtime catch he made a first down on. I'm talking the one in regulation where he went horizontal and snared it with one hand.

I stand corrected. The regulation catch, I did forget about. I am surprised they did not take that away.

 

[Patjew]

 

[luuked]

I stand corrected. The regulation catch, I did forget about. I am surprised they did not take that away.

Whenever I see clips like this, the Edelman catch against Atlanta (or am forced to see the helmet catch) it just reminds me how much of this game really is luck and the ball bouncing your way.

Insane.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

He was a good signing for the Pats. Too bad that he and Brady didn't work well together in this past season. He is talented and very athletic. Good luck with the future.

I think it’s the opposite. He isn’t athletic at all, at least from the standpoint of an NFL receiver. He and Brady work well together when he’s like the 3rd or 4th option and can get him open by misdirection and teams focusing on better players. Hogan is a good route runner and reliable, and he’s especially bettern in zone because he can find holes. The problem is he isn’t fast or quick enough to win man coverage against decent corners.

It was disastrous the few times he was their “number one” receiver.

I’m glad they’re going with Dorsett. Much better upside and more physically gifted.

My prediction is he’s out of the league by 2020 if not sooner.

I like Hogan a lot too and it was a great signing. I’m just looking at what he really is at this stage of his career.

 

[SBLIII]

I thank him for his contributions but man did he suck last year.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Demariyus Thomas would be a good fit in NE, but I could see him as the next training camp retiree.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

He was terrible this year, I'm relieved he got signed away so we didn't overpay to keep, and thank him and wish him well.

.

 

[captain stone]

I understand your belief that we won't get much more. However, I have a bit different perspective.

I think that Dorsett is the clear #3 (chosen over Hogan), although it is indeed possible that someone could beat him out.

I have Ellington/Harris competing for the #4 WR spot perhaps with a rookie. For me, Gordon is the mythical #5 WR, if we even have one.

WR #1 - Edelman
WR #2 - ???
WR #3 - Dorsett
WR #4 - Ellington/Harris/rookie/fa/trade
WR #5 - Gordon/rookie/fa or no one

That's not nearly good enough. I mean, Ellington & Harris...why even bother?

 

[mgteich]

That's not nearly good enough. I mean, Ellington & Harris...why even bother?

My post considers the possibility of 3 additional WR on the 53 who aren't on the squad today. I guess you need 4?

 

[captain stone]

My post considers the possibility of 3 additional WR on the 53 who aren't on the squad today. I guess you need 4?

At least.

 

[Jackson 2]

Interesting 16 page CH thread at Panthers message board. Most welcome his big game experience and lower price tag which allows them to cut the more expensive Torey Smith. It also allows a nice comparison of a well run Pats forum vs one that has at least 4 pages of insults among posters.

Yeah, never any insults here...

 

[Jackson 2]

Whenever I see clips like this, the Edelman catch against Atlanta (or am forced to see the helmet catch) it just reminds me how much of this game really is luck and the ball bouncing your way.

Insane.

Hello David Tyree..

 

[Vatahala]

Yeah, never any insults here...

Never has it averaged basically 1 in 4 posts.