Hightower not willing to take a pay cut

[Username]

No it's not fact.

2018 Regular Season:

Kyle Van Noy - 16 Games started, 92 tackles (57 solo), 5 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 10 QB Hits, 1 INT, 2 Passes def, 1 FF, 2 Fumble recovery

Elandon Roberts - 11 Games started, 65 tackles (31 solo), 6 TFL, 1 sack, 2 QB Hits, 0 INT, 4 Passes def, 0 FF, 0 Fumble recovery

Donta Hightower - 15 Games started, 48 tackles (24 solo), 3 TFL, 1 sack, 6 QB Hits, 1 INT, 1 Pass def, 0 FF, 1 Fumble recovery

Tell me again how it's not a fact that Van Noy and Elandon Robert were more productive than Hightower in the regular season....

 

[Horace's Ivories]

So this an article about him not doing the thing he hasn't been asked to do...

mmm..helpful.. thanks

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Hightower and Bentley are different players. High is at his best when he’s playing ar the LOS especially on the edge. Bentley is the classic MLB - think a better version of Elandon Roberts.

3-3-5 is the new base defense, so there is definitely room for both on what I think can be an even better defense in 2019.

3-3-5 or 4-2-5?

 

[Ring 6]

Hightower and Bentley are different players. High is at his best when he’s playing ar the LOS especially on the edge. Bentley is the classic MLB - think a better version of Elandon Roberts.

3-3-5 is the new base defense, so there is definitely room for both on what I think can be an even better defense in 2019.

4-2-5 actually is the base

 

[Ring 6]

2018 Regular Season:

Kyle Van Noy - 16 Games started, 92 tackles (57 solo), 5 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 10 QB Hits, 1 INT, 2 Passes def, 1 FF, 2 Fumble recovery

Elandon Roberts - 11 Games started, 65 tackles (31 solo), 6 TFL, 1 sack, 2 QB Hits, 0 INT, 4 Passes def, 0 FF, 0 Fumble recovery

Donta Hightower - 15 Games started, 48 tackles (24 solo), 3 TFL, 1 sack, 6 QB Hits, 1 INT, 1 Pass def, 0 FF, 1 Fumble recovery

Tell me again how it's not a fact that Van Noy and Elandon Robert were more productive than Hightower in the regular season....

A) you said they contributed more which certainly is not a fact
B) thinking you can evaluate defensive players with statistics is comical

 

[BobDigital]

Why should he take a pay cut? We got him on the cheap for 4 years. Then suddenly he hits year 5 and gets what he is worth only to have injuries knock him down to a merely solid LB.

While I don't like over paying players this is a structural problem with the NFL. The only time a lot of these players have a chance to see money is after taking big hits for 4 or more seasons.

I think it would be nice to do something so a player who is worth it in his first 4 seasons can be paid a little more. It would all even out as it would cause the top players to take less when contract times comes up for them. I think that be better all around.

 

[PatsBoy12]

2018 Regular Season:

Kyle Van Noy - 16 Games started, 92 tackles (57 solo), 5 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 10 QB Hits, 1 INT, 2 Passes def, 1 FF, 2 Fumble recovery

Elandon Roberts - 11 Games started, 65 tackles (31 solo), 6 TFL, 1 sack, 2 QB Hits, 0 INT, 4 Passes def, 0 FF, 0 Fumble recovery

Donta Hightower - 15 Games started, 48 tackles (24 solo), 3 TFL, 1 sack, 6 QB Hits, 1 INT, 1 Pass def, 0 FF, 1 Fumble recovery

Tell me again how it's not a fact that Van Noy and Elandon Robert were more productive than Hightower in the regular season....

The fact that you're using solely stats to justify your opinion is why I'm not even going to bother. I never even compared him to either of the other guys. Lol Try actually watching the games. It might be a fun time.

 

[SBLIII]

The fact that you're using solely stats to justify your opinion is why I'm not even going to bother. I never even compared him to either of the other guys. Lol Try actually watching the games. It might be a fun time.

Roberts wasn't good until the playoffs, he was very very good there though. Van Noy was our best linebacker over the season.

 

[50-yard-line]

Hightower has earned his money, he played lights out in his last three Superbowls, and if he was on the field for SB52, the Pats would have won that too!

Big Time players, make bit time plays in bit time moments! The Pats can restructure his contract, which will still pay him the same amount, yet greatly reduce his cap number.

If they're going to do that, I think they'll do that NEXT year (they have a lot more leverage next year because there's less dead money). Next year, they'll also have a better handle on how the wear-and-tear is playing.

 

[ralmat55]

4-2-5 actually is the base

I think it might change to get Bentley on the field. Van Noy and High will take turns on the edge or both will be on the line. The 5 man front is what this team plays best. It’s what fits the personnel best. Of course it’s Belichick’s D so it must be variable.

 

[reflexblue]

At the beginning of the season he was recovering from a year out of football.
By the end of the season he was the same Hightower.

Some people think a player can come back from a major injury while sitting out a year for recery and magically or instantaneously be the same player they were when they come back. It takes a while for a player that fits that discription to physically and psychologically make it all the way back to the player they were before. Gordon hayward is an example of that. Also stats are for losers, intangibles also play a big role. On top of that hes a money player, he makes big plays when the game is on the line.

 

[Hyped]

2018 Regular Season:

Kyle Van Noy - 16 Games started, 92 tackles (57 solo), 5 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 10 QB Hits, 1 INT, 2 Passes def, 1 FF, 2 Fumble recovery

Elandon Roberts - 11 Games started, 65 tackles (31 solo), 6 TFL, 1 sack, 2 QB Hits, 0 INT, 4 Passes def, 0 FF, 0 Fumble recovery

Donta Hightower - 15 Games started, 48 tackles (24 solo), 3 TFL, 1 sack, 6 QB Hits, 1 INT, 1 Pass def, 0 FF, 1 Fumble recovery

Tell me again how it's not a fact that Van Noy and Elandon Robert were more productive than Hightower in the regular season....

There are always intangibles....

 

[PatsBoy12]

Roberts wasn't good until the playoffs, he was very very good there though. Van Noy was our best linebacker over the season.

I am not and never was comparing Hightower to anyone.

 

[PatsBoy12]

Some people think a player can come back from a major injury while sitting out a year for recery and magically or instantaneously be the same player they were when they come back. It takes a while for a player that fits that discription to physically and psychologically make it all the way back to the player they were before. Gordon hayward is an example of that. Also stats are for losers, intangibles also play a big role. On top of that hes a money player, he makes big plays when the game is on the line.

Jules is another prime example. He was okay for the first part of the season before looking more like himself later on... and then exploding in the playoffs. SB Jules was what we've seen all these years. These guys need time to get into game form after sitting out so long.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Yeah but what if they made cupcakes for him?Did they introduce that scenario?

 

[RobertWeathers]

So let me get this straight.
Who is trading him? Must be Doug kyed since HE is the one who asked him about taking a pay cut and the patriots have not.
I guess he is going to get traded because he won’t take a pay cut without being asked to take a pay cut. The team that paid Adrian Clayborn 5.5 mill is going to get rid of their most important defensive player so they can pay 5 mill to not have him instead of 10.9 to have him.

Regardless of whether or not the reports re: High are true/false, my point is typically when the NEP want a player to take a cut and they refuse or if a player's contract demands are out of this world, they are traded or released.

 

[lancerman]

He played a great SB but lets not forget how mediocre he was all season long. With Bentley coming back he is expendable.

Bentley isn't Hightower. Hightower at full health is the most important player in our defensive front.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Yeah but what if they made cupcakes for him?Did they introduce that scenario?

I love cupcakes. That is probably the key to free agency that the Pats have messed up. That is why they always lose the offseason. It was the damn cupcakes all along! CU-J-PC-E-AK-T-ES-E!!!

 

[Ring 6]

Regardless of whether or not the reports re: High are true/false, my point is typically when the NEP want a player to take a cut and they refuse or if a player's contract demands are out of this world, they are traded or released.

Hightower has not been asked to take a paycut and there is no reason to believe he will.
There are no reports to be true or false.
Doug Kyed asked him if he would like a pay cut and he said no.
I guess every player on the roster is “officially on trade watch” since any one he asked would also say no.
On the bright side Doug kyed doesn’t make football decisions for the patriots.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Hightower has not been asked to take a paycut and there is no reason to believe he will.
There are no reports to be true or false.
Doug Kyed asked him if he would like a pay cut and he said no.
I guess every player on the roster is “officially on trade watch” since any one he asked would also say no.
On the bright side Doug kyed doesn’t make football decisions for the patriots.

What I posted has nothing to do with Kyed