Khalil Mack traded to Chicago

[BaconGrundleCandy]

John Gruden would have taken Johnny Football in the top 5

 

[Coolade2]

Pass rusher like Mack is very impactful player who can mess up an offense but can he be netralized with a back chipping him or tight end tandem.? Meaning 20+ mil is a lot for that position or any position other than QB... IMO...

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Pass rusher like Mack is very impactful player who can mess up an offense but can he be netralized with a back chipping him or tight end tandem.? Meaning 20+ mil is a lot for that position or any position other than QB... IMO...

Proof most on here only watch the Pats & still have no idea wtf their talking about lol.

Mack has been doubled & triple team since day one & he's top 5 in TFL, Pressures & Sacks.

Now he's on a better defense, w a legit option across from him in Floyd.

 

[Ring 6]

The Raiders messed this whole Mack thing up for a while now. They should have approached him a year or so ago, and tried to get him to sign an extension then, while he was still making little on his rookie contract and the Raiders still had control over him for a few more years. By letting him get to his contract year, suddenly his pay jumps to 13 million and now the Raiders are stuck.

I assume they tried to extend him earlier. There is no way we would know whether they did or not.

Then they turn around and let go of the only real control they had, the fact that Mack was a week away from losing @$800,000 a game. They should have let him either continue to hold out, or risk losing money.

By dealing Mack when they did, Mack, was never at risk for losing any money, and now he can basically bath himself in cash.

They got more for him than any defensive player ever traded.
Are you saying they should have made his sit home as an act of vengeance and pass up a great offer?

The two first round picks seem great, but then you factor in sending a second rd pick back to the Bears. And now the Bears are going to be a .500 team or better, so those picks are not going to be top ten picks.

They will be top 10 picks, the bears suck.
They also got a 3rd.

The Bears won this trade, they could make it because they have a rookie starting QB in year 2 of his rookie deal, so he doesn't have to get paid until 2022. Right now Mack counts @13 million against the Bears cap, which is actually less cap money than what the Pats are paying the McCourty twins.

Ignoring 23 mill a year, sure Mack is better than draft picks. But the raiders will have 23 mill a year to spend on players and less than half of that will go to the picks.

Of course, if Trubisky gets hurt, or sucks, then the Bears are screwed. But if he stays healthy and performs well, the Bears will be in great shape.

Trubisky will not be the starter in 2020.

The Raiders, on the other hand, have already waaay overpaid for Carr, and now lost the only real playmaker they had on defense. If they start losing right away, things could get really ugly, really fast in Oakland.

Gotta pay the qb or you can’t compete.
How ugly can it get for a team that has seen the playoffs once and had 1 winning season in 15 years?

All things being equal, I wished the Pats would have made this trade, (although I doubt the Raiders would have done the same trade with the Pats). I'd take Mack over the McCourty twins, everyday, and twice on Sundays.

Nice way to twist this into your McCourty hate but there is just no way 23 mill a year to a de fits the way this team operates.

 

[Ring 6]

Proof most on here only watch the Pats & still have no idea wtf their talking about lol.

Mack has been doubled & triple team since day one & he's top 5 in TFL, Pressures & Sacks.

Now he's on a better defense, w a legit option across from him in Floyd.

Can you show me a couple of clips of TRIPLE TEAMS? I would love to see the scheme that devotes 3 blockers to one player and figure out why the raiders never decided to send 5 and have a few man every play against that.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Pass rusher like Mack is very impactful player who can mess up an offense but can he be netralized with a back chipping him or tight end tandem.? Meaning 20+ mil is a lot for that position or any position other than QB... IMO...

Which doesn’t matter to Chicago since Mitch is on his rookie deal for another 4 years.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Can you show me a couple of clips of TRIPLE TEAMS? I would love to see the scheme that devotes 3 blockers to one player and figure out why the raiders never decided to send 5 and have a few man every play against that.

I think there’s a clip somewhere of 3 defenders (not blockers) on Gronk but I can’t tell you the actual game. I wonder if Lawrence Taylor ever got that sort of treatment.

 

[Ring 6]

I think there’s a clip somewhere of 3 defenders (not blockers) on Gronk but I can’t tell you the actual game. I wonder if Lawrence Taylor ever got that sort of treatment.

I mean you can chip him with a te and have an uncovered ol help out but that’s not triple team.
Same with gronk. You can man him and have 2 guys in zone near him but that’s not triple teaming.

 

[Ring 6]

Which doesn’t matter to Chicago since Mitch is on his rookie deal for another 4 years.

Still matters though because a) you can spread that 23 mill pretty far and b) trubisky will need a new contract before too long or you are losing and need more money to overcome him sucking.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Can you show me a couple of clips of TRIPLE TEAMS? I would love to see the scheme that devotes 3 blockers to one player and figure out why the raiders never decided to send 5 and have a few man every play against that.

In work, it took 2 mins. Maybe I'll post lata if I have time but again if you watch football you've seen this before. It's not like he's the only one it's happened to.

Put some salt on that L. Chew, swallow & repeat.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Been dealing w double/triples since High School & College.

I find it amazing some spend all day on a football forum but literally have no idea wtf they're talking about.

 

[Ring 6]

In work, it took 2 mins. Maybe I'll post lata if I have time but again if you watch football you've seen this before. It's not like he's the only one it's happened to.

Put some salt on that L. Chew, swallow & repeat.

I wasn’t disputing you could fund some plays with 3 guys around him but your post implied he routinely has 3 blockers assigned just to him, which is ridiculous.

 

[1960Pats]

I like you. You are a good poster here. But, it’s 2018... please retry using another term.

The poster obviously meant that the trade was stupid or foolish, and it was.

 

[farn]

The poster obviously meant that the trade was stupid or foolish, and it was.

I hear that. But while some disagree, I think there are a few words people should just always avoid. I’m usually on the « society is too sensitive » side, but I guess I think he could have shown astonishment without that word.

I know a poster mentioned how his family members didn’t mind it - but that’s doesnt mean many others do indeed...

Anyways, maybe we should just go back to football. I just thought that word shouldn’t be left unchecked since I obviously feel strongly about it.

 

[Coolade2]

Pass rusher like Mack is very impactful player who can mess up an offense but can he be netralized with a back chipping him or tight end tandem.? Meaning 20+ mil is a lot for that position or any position other than QB... IMO...

Proof most on here only watch the Pats & still have no idea wtf their talking about lol.

Mack has been doubled & triple team since day one & he's top 5 in TFL, Pressures & Sacks.

Now he's on a better defense, w a legit option across from him in Floyd.

Oh wow... Fascinating. Mack is superhuman, huh...? Just watch the drop off this year . See , all that money in his pocket, playing for perennial loser franchise, might cause a tad less desirable results... We shall see .

 

[Coolade2]

Which doesn’t matter to Chicago since Mitch is on his rookie deal for another 4 years.

Good point,. So bears can hopefully get some turnovers from D pressure to help out the offense with young QB.... Makes sense if you believe in the trade as a kinda desperate move to upgrade their chances this year.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Rams made a big push for Mack. Thankfully that did not happen....

Rams admit they tried to get Khalil Mack

 

[PatriotReign]

Rams made a big push for Mack. Thankfully that did not happen....

Rams admit they tried to get Khalil Mack

How on earth is that even possible. They're paying marquee players everywhere while the Pats won't or can't commit big dollars to anyone. Our big contracts off the top of my head belong to Brady (underpaid), Gronk (underpaid), Mason(?), Gilmore (?), McCourty(Should be taking a paycut at this point), Ghost(Overpaid), and Hightower (?), Harmon. The rest are rookies or mid-tier contracts.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

How on earth is that even possible. They're paying marquee players everywhere while the Pats won't or can't commit big dollars to anyone. Our big contracts off the top of my head belong to Brady (underpaid), Gronk (underpaid), Mason(?), Gilmore (?), McCourty(Should be taking a paycut at this point), Ghost(Overpaid), and Hightower (?). The rest are rookies or mid-tier contracts.

They may have just leaked this in order to generate some buzz in LA - i.e., they are committed to building a winner in that city. Either that they are desperate to win a super bowl and don’t mind going into salary cap hell.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Not picking on Miller. Had a 2nd on him. More developmental athlete than NFL ready player. Gruden is borderline inept when it comes to the draft.


J/c is this the crow thread too ?