After 53 cutdown thoughts

[luuked]

I actually wondered that about Bolden assuming their intention is to bring him back. There was no need to cut him him even if they do intend to bring him back.

I think you are looking at it too logically if that makes sense. Yes theoretically there is space for all of this without Bolden but if we believe the premise that moves at OT and WR are on their way (as Reiss suggests) then you don't know how long those moves will take to be completed.

Cutting Bolden now (and resigning him in 1-2 days) gives them some time to deal with that. Also there is always still the possibility that a veteran gets traded in the next 1-2 days.

In short.. it just increases flexibility and they are not losing anything by doing it.

 

[luuked]

My guess is that the Doctors told them that neither Sam nor Berrios would be ready by the 8th game of the season.

Berrios might have been ready physically but I don't think he is anywhere close to contributing on this team this year. Next year.. who knows...

 

[Ring 6]

Something to make @mains happy . unless Pats are bringing Dez for whatever he thinks he's worth . they should start the season well north of 7M..

Depends on the injury settlements though. Are they more than Allen savings?
Plus we need to sign 2 more players to get to 53. I think we will be south of 7.

 

[manxman2601]

I think you are looking at it too logically if that makes sense. Yes theoretically there is space for all of this without Bolden but if we believe the premise that moves at OT and WR are on their way (as Reiss suggests) then you don't know how long those moves will take to be completed.

Cutting Bolden now (and resigning him in 1-2 days) gives them some time to deal with that. Also there is always still the possibility that a veteran gets traded in the next 1-2 days.

In short.. it just increases flexibility and they are not losing anything by doing it.

Fair. Which means an OT and WR move are pretty likely. I just hope they're good ones.

 

[luuked]

Fair. Which means an OT and WR move are pretty likely. I just hope they're good ones.

I just think that the situation is a lot more in flux and chaotic than we all think.

That being said I would not expect any big moves. Just depth-level ones...

 

[Ring 6]

I think you are looking at it too logically if that makes sense. Yes theoretically there is space for all of this without Bolden but if we believe the premise that moves at OT and WR are on their way (as Reiss suggests) then you don't know how long those moves will take to be completed.

Cutting Bolden now (and resigning him in 1-2 days) gives them some time to deal with that. Also there is always still the possibility that a veteran gets traded in the next 1-2 days.

In short.. it just increases flexibility and they are not losing anything by doing it.

I don’t see how that flexibility is needed though
If bolden is definitely coming back he takes up
a spot. There is no need to open a spot for a trade because whoever gets cut for bolden to return would just get cut when the trade went though.

 

[DaBruinz]

Fair. Which means an OT and WR move are pretty likely. I just hope they're good ones.

I fully expect them to bring in a WR and an OT..
The WR will cause a ton of people to say WTF and scratch their heads while a few people will absolutely love it (ala the Welker signing).

The OT will probably be Croston.

 

[Adam Seward]

Surprised at the WR situation. I guess, barring deals unknown, that Burkhead and Hollister will be taking up tne slack if needed.

I wonder how often Josh will use split backs motioning Burkhead around. I have to imagine we will see lots of presnap creativity with the low number of WRs. Burkhead can run/catch, Patterson is a threat on a sweep to be accounted for, Hogan is good in space. Could be a very new flavor of offense we see.

 

[manxman2601]

I just think that the situation is a lot more in flux and chaotic than we all think.

That being said I would not expect any big moves. Just depth-level ones...

Killjoy.

I agree at OL. Hoping for something a little more significant at WR but have no expectations of a really big name (Dez, Tate) etc.

 

[luuked]

I don’t see how that flexibility is needed though
If bolden is definitely coming back he takes up
a spot. There is no need to open a spot for a trade because whoever gets cut for bolden to return would just get cut when the trade went though.

I think this is more about IR-return than a straight cut. Also there are still a couple of players on the 53 that they might try to smuggle onto the PS in the aftermath of cut day.

I think we will have a pretty good picture of what everything looks like by tmw evening.. and then another couple changes after W1 possibly.

 

[manxman2601]

I wonder how often Josh will use split backs motioning Burkhead around. I have to imaging we will see lots of presnap creativity with the low number of WRs. Burkhead can run/catch, Patterson is a threat on a sweep to be accounted for, Hogan is good in space. Could be a very new flavor of offense we see.

Burkhead played WR at the Bengals at times didn't he? Burkhead, White and Hollister add a lot of depth to that receiving corps.

 

[Ring 6]

I think this is more about IR-return than a straight cut.

Huh? We don’t need an IR-return spot because we cut to 52.
I would understand if Izzo was part of 53. Someone has to go for a day
But we are 52 so you could have kept bolden and still ird Izzo leaving him eligible for return.
Cutting bolden to go to 52 didn’t add anything.

 

[luuked]

I agree at OL. Hoping for something a little more significant at WR but have no expectations of a really big name (Dez, Tate) etc.

Quite honestly I would prefer a move similar to Dorsett that adds youth to the WR group and is more targeted towards next year than some kind of bandage for this year.

 

[jboston19]

That raises a question: why did they IR (without ability to return) both Berrios and Sam today? They could easily have kept one or the other on the 53 today.

I don't think either one of them showed enough to warrant being brought back when you have 2 chances. They get to be around the team, aren't exposed to waivers, and aren't taking up a roster spot.

 

[luuked]

Huh? We don’t need an IR-return spot because we cut to 52.
I would understand if Izzo was part of 53. Someone has to go for a day
But we are 52 so you could have kept bolden and still ird Izzo leaving him eligible for return.
Cutting bolden to go to 52 didn’t add anything.

But if moves are really in the works as Reiss is suggesting you don't know how fast they would be finished. Maybe the trade partner might have needed that additional open spot on the 53 before the cut deadline. You dont know until it is all over (which it is now).

 

[Ring 6]

Burkhead played WR at the Bengals at times didn't he? Burkhead, White and Hollister add a lot of depth to that receiving corps.

The offense doesn’t change at all with 3 WRs. We literally don’t gave a 4 WR package.
Wr4 is only there for reserve reps with one of the 3 sitting (doesn’t happen much) or in case of an injury.

 

[manxman2601]

Quite honestly I would prefer a move similar to Dorsett that adds youth to the WR group and is more targeted towards next year than some kind of bandage for this year.

I 100% agree. Unless they plan to extend Patterson or Dorsett, there's a lot of uncertainty about next season. I'm not comfortable about them starting next pre-season with only 1 WR with any experience of the system.

 

[manxman2601]

The offense doesn’t change at all with 3 WRs. We literally don’t gave a 4 WR package.
Wr4 is only there for reserve reps with one of the 3 sitting (doesn’t happen much) or in case of an injury.

"in case of injury" seems pretty a pretty important factor to me - and I'm thinking about someone going down in-game primarily.

 

[Ring 6]

But if moves are really in the works as Reiss is suggesting you don't know how fast they would be finished. Maybe the trade partner might have needed that additional open spot on the 53 before the cut deadline. You dont know until it is all over (which it is now).

You don’t need the open spot because you can cut in conjunction with the trade.
Like if bolden wasn’t cut and you make a trade, you correspondingly cut bolden.
The partner would have no need for the patriots to be under 53.

 

[Adam Seward]

Burkhead played WR at the Bengals at times didn't he? Burkhead, White and Hollister add a lot of depth to that receiving corps.

Yes out of necessity, thankfully he is that versatile. Are you big on Hollister?