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Patriots Rumor Malcolm Butler Mega Thread

A report indicating the Patriots are potentially in the market for this player, or have expressed or plant to express interest.
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That's all you got?
Wow, you can't argue against what I said, so you call me dumb. Are you a 7 year old?

Fellas, you think we can listen to the radio?
 
This was your comment:

It is wrong. End of story.
That's not the post you massive failure.[/QUOTE]
That is the post I responded to. Of course it’s the post.
Keep up the name calling as it appears to be the only tool in your belt.
 
Not sure, i was just speculating since Bill did it the night before the SB. Since it was last minute I thought may be Underwood got into trouble (violating curfew, weed, etc).
Don't know either. I took it as a garden -variety cutthroat, shrewd move. Nothing more.
 
Don't know either. I took it as a garden -variety cutthroat, shrewd move. Nothing more.
Well the player that was activated from the ps was active for the game so it seems like it was just a need for a roster spot/depth elsewhere.
Why do people look for ulterior motives in everything?
 
Well the player that was activated from the ps was active for the game so it seems like it was just a need for a roster spot/depth elsewhere.
Why do people look for ulterior motives in everything?

Yep. Gronk played STs and they called up some dude to fill in. Italian name. I forget his name....
 
Don't know either. I took it as a garden -variety cutthroat, shrewd move. Nothing more.
After late-season injuries to Carter and to a much lesser effect Cunningham, the Pats were left with only two true edge rushers, Ninkovich and Mark Anderson. Shaun Ellis and Brandon Deaderick were inside-outside tweeners, but a 290 pound left end was a less attractive option when playing against the Giants’ NFL-worst rushing offense. Silvestro gave them a #3 true edge rusher, but he wasn’t needed as Ninkovich and Anderson played basically every snap.
 
 

Meanwhile Kraft is getting a handy.
He’s living his best life at the moment. Can’t really blame him for shooting one off under the blanket if the opportunity presents itself.
 
After late-season injuries to Carter and to a much lesser effect Cunningham, the Pats were left with only two true edge rushers, Ninkovich and Mark Anderson. Shaun Ellis and Brandon Deaderick were inside-outside tweeners, but a 290 pound left end was a less attractive option when playing against the Giants’ NFL-worst rushing offense. Silvestro gave them a #3 true edge rusher, but he wasn’t needed as Ninkovich and Anderson played basically every snap.
I was reading up on this last night and the thinking was to spare Gronk from any ST duty on FG blocking
 
Disagree legacy is overall consensus. Nixon to some was a great President who got a lot done. Kennedy to some was all style and no substance who never accomplished anything substantial. However we know what there legacies are and how history generally perceives them.

Whether we like it or not, Spygate is one of the main things the public at large thinks about him. It's unfortunately something he's going to be remembered for. When he goes into the HOF alot of people are still going to bring that up. I think it's the biggest non story ever, but it took on it's own life. It was bs. But it's honestly not going to be remembered as a non story, as much as we know it is.

Someday I'll be dead and you'll be dead and people will talk about Belichick in the same terms we talk about Lombardi who for the most part we didn't watch. And that will unfortunately be part of what those people talk about. Will it supersede him being viewed as the greatest or at least one of the greatest coaches ever? Probably not. But it will be caveat added on. In a sense I think Brady did far more good for himself dragging deflategate out into absurdity because it wore so many people down that it became a bit of a joke and even people who hated us were so sick of it they began to laugh it off as something that the NFL pushed too hard on. 99% of the issue with Spygate was how Goodell handled it all shady. It just sucks we were on the receiving end of it.

This is another thing that people are going to have a very hard time letting go of and I think for a long time it's going to be the story of how the greatest coach ever exercised his control a step to far and probably hurt the team overall.

Without a really good reason, it's always going to be hard to justify the head coach benching a player he felt should start the most defensive snaps all season on a top 5 defense and never playing him while his defense got torn apart in the Super Bowl wasting and all time performance from the greatest QB ever. It's going to stick and honestly, without a really compelling reason, it's going to be hard to give Belichick much leeway on not only not starting him, but not going back to what worked all season.
I respectfully disagree on your definition of a legacy but not a big deal. However a legacy can evolve and change. Nixon was doing fine until Watergate. Kennedy's had been good because he was murdered and the family influenced the press to suppress the media for leaking his 8000 affairs he had in the WH.

The BB/Malcolm situation will not hurt BBs stature as GOAT but because of the perception, it's become his Bay of Pigs (even though Malcolm is Allen Dullas)
 
“There are only two people that know what happened: Bill and Malcolm,” said Mayo. “I’ve had conversations with multiple guys on the team and no one knows."

Is this the biggest hurdle Belichick’s faced?

“I think so. Being able to rally the troops around this one common goal of getting to the Super Bowl while (players are thinking), ‘If we get there, how do we know you’re not going to pull this again?' that’s always going to be back of the player’s minds as well. For the most part, players don’t play for the coaches. You play for the guy -- corny as it sounds -- you play for the guys next to you. And those guys will find a common ground to rally around. This can be terrible for the franchise for the foreseeable future, or they can just plow through it.”

Curran: So what's the endgame in the Foxboro Cold War?
 
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