Predict Our Rookie QB

[VrabelMayeWin]

Mike white looked awful against ‘Bama. Granted western kentucky is not a good team but still....

I'm confident Brady would look awful Qing Western Kentucky against Alabama.

 

[50-yard-line]

I don't know...it costs so damned much to move up anywhere near the top 4. Do that, draft a bust, and your team suffers for the next 5 years. I just can't see BB doing that. Doesn't seem in his DNA. I could see him moving up, but at the cost of 3 1st-round picks?

No, can't see that, and if it happens, it means he LOVES the guy he goes and gets.

I'm expecting to be surprised often during the first two days, but I think White will be the pick in a later round. Or, possibly, one of the 2nd-tier guys in the late first.

 

[Love The Drake]

I don't know...it costs so damned much to move up anywhere near the top 4. Do that, draft a bust, and your team suffers for the next 5 years. I just can't see BB doing that. Doesn't seem in his DNA. I could see him moving up, but at the cost of 3 1st-round picks?

No, can't see that, and if it happens, it means he LOVES the guy he goes and gets.

I'm expecting to be surprised often during the first two days, but I think White will be the pick in a later round. Or, possibly, one of the 2nd-tier guys in the late first.

Second round at best late second

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Where there is smoke, there is fire!

I think us taking Jackson at 23 has legs.

In a lot of ways, it makes perfect sense. He is the most dynamic player in this draft. With two to three years to learn how to read defenses, get stronger and make better decisions, he could be a franchise qb for us.

 

[IcyPatriot]

 

[Wozzy]

Where there is smoke, there is fire!

I think us taking Jackson at 23 has legs.

In a lot of ways, it makes perfect sense. He is the most dynamic player in this draft. With two to three years to learn how to read defenses, get stronger and make better decisions, he could be a franchise qb for us.

Jackson should convert to WR the same way Josh Allen should convert to TE, they should do it now instead of waiting three years from now.

Neither is an NFL quarterback, you need the ability to pass to beat playoff caliber defenses.

 

[primetime]

Jackson should convert to WR the same way Josh Allen should convert to TE, they should do it now instead of waiting three years from now.

Neither is an NFL quarterback, you need the ability to pass to beat playoff caliber defenses.

Judging by that Instagram post, one Tom Brady disagrees with your assessment.

I'll trust him.

 

[DarrylS]

I will go with Kyle Lauletta for no other reason except his father and uncle played for Navy.. which makes as much sense as any other reason.

 

[Ross12]

I feel odd saying it but I really think it could be Jackson. And I’m honestly hoping it is. He needs some work, but... the ceiling just seems to be huge.

And in a way, it seems like something that would sit well with Brady - knowing Jackson needs 2-3 years of development, it allows Brady to be comfortable knowing he won’t get replaced for a bit. And the contract is long enough (even with the fifth year option) that if Brady really does end up wanting to play til 45, the team can carry both guys til then without a big struggle.

 

[Clonamery]

I feel odd saying it but I really think it could be Jackson. And I’m honestly hoping it is. He needs some work, but... the ceiling just seems to be huge.

And in a way, it seems like something that would sit well with Brady - knowing Jackson needs 2-3 years of development, it allows Brady to be comfortable knowing he won’t get replaced for a bit. And the contract is long enough (even with the fifth year option) that if Brady really does end up wanting to play til 45, the team can carry both guys til then without a big struggle.

Your second point makes more sense than some previous comments.

Though he may have to play sooner with Waddle at LT (and taking Jackson with the 23rd and whatever else it may take) because TB will be dead.

 

[Ring 6]

Judging by that Instagram post, one Tom Brady disagrees with your assessment.

I'll trust him.

But which Tom Brady

 

[lancerman]

I think Bill realized his Achilles heel for several years has been QB’s who can beat you on their legs. You can run everything perfectly and they can still go rogue and bust your coverage to make a gain. He knows the value in that. If you can successfully develop him to be a high level pocket passer with accuracy and smart decision making, you’re offense is always three dimensional. Add Belichick and McDaniels offense and it’s a nightmare for defenses.

 

[Love The Drake]

I think Bill realized his Achilles heel for several years has been QB’s who can beat you on their legs. You can run everything perfectly and they can still go rogue and bust your coverage to make a gain. He knows the value in that. If you can successfully develop him to be a high level pocket passer with accuracy and smart decision making, you’re offense is always three dimensional. Add Belichick and McDaniels offense and it’s a nightmare for defenses.

However the word getting out isn't Patriot like.
The fact they have been linked to 2 very mobile QBs in Jackson and Mayfield is interesting however I wouldn't put it past BB to learn all he can about each QB planning not to take him but have it for when he faces him.
He can find out how the guy thinks for example the defense has shifted before the snap to the right the secondary is snowing a look of half the field man the other half zone.
What is your first second and third keys on this play.
If your running x play.
I'm pretty certain the Dolphins are looking at Jackson and Mayfield strongly as well.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I feel odd saying it but I really think it could be Jackson. And I’m honestly hoping it is. He needs some work, but... the ceiling just seems to be huge.

And in a way, it seems like something that would sit well with Brady - knowing Jackson needs 2-3 years of development, it allows Brady to be comfortable knowing he won’t get replaced for a bit. And the contract is long enough (even with the fifth year option) that if Brady really does end up wanting to play til 45, the team can carry both guys til then without a big struggle.

This might be the reason why Brady liked that post about him on Instagram - maybe a hint to BB that “I’m ok with this guy for the next couple of years.”

My problem with Jackson is that he appears to be a run-first QB - his first instinct is just to take off if the first read isn’t there because he’s so athletically gifted. If he’s like that in the NFL, teams are just going to sniff that out. I hope he becomes pass first and run as a last option.

 

[Love The Drake]

This might be the reason why Brady liked that post about him on Instagram - maybe a hint to BB that “I’m ok with this guy for the next couple of years.”

My problem with Jackson is that he appears to be a run-first QB - his first instinct is just to take off if the first read isn’t there because he’s so athletically gifted. If he’s like that in the NFL, teams are just going to sniff that out. I hope he becomes pass first and run as a last option.

That's Josh's job to determine what he can do.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

That's Josh's job to determine what he can do.

Josh cannot control what Jackson will do on the field. He can only coach him a certain way and give him the plays. Execution of the play is up to Jackson and the rest of the offense.

 

[Love The Drake]

Josh cannot control what Jackson will do on the field. He can only coach him a certain way and give him the plays. Execution of the play is up to Jackson and the rest of the offense.

Sure however it's Josh's job to teach him to look for other reads before he uses his wheels.
It's a moot point because I think he is going to the Dolphins Or Chargers.
We are taking White Lauletta or Rudolph.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Got a feeling we are only picking once in the first round. I'd be ok if it was only a smokescreen to get bpa but it does feel different this year.

It would be interesting if it was a mobile qb like Jackson, weird considering the offense that is currently run, but interesting nontheless. With Brady and Josh training him to get ready I wonder if they could make it work with that type of player? Super athletic qb with the tutelage of the greatest qb of all time for the reads and xs-os. Doubt TB could ever teach pocket awareness/stepup of the magnitude that he does it though. He's the best ever bar none at that and I think it's a 6th sense that can't be taught.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

FWIW here is Jackson against Clemson, one of the top teams in college football. It didn’t look pretty. One of things you should look for in a QB is how they play against top competition, even in a losing effort. Just look at how Brady performed against Alabama. Jackson could have had some good games against other top teams, however. This is just one example.

 

[Love The Drake]

Brady called Manziel a beast just saying.
And I'm sure we can find some quote where Brady put Tebow on the same field.
I have to think this is misdirection you get everybody to trade up and take QBs.
You stock the defense and O line then take Rudolph Lauletta or White in rounds 2 to 3.
Its possible but all these leaks are not Patriot like.
It will be exciting either way even if we trade down for a dozen third round picks.