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Great movie. I watched that a few months ago and it made me sad seeing Patrick Swayze.
You could just as easily say that Carson Wentz could be playing for the Eagles and have them win by a larger marginThey had injuries last year.
Regardless 8 more months to shape the roster.
Add High, JE11 and no Malcolm hospitalization BS and they win the SB by 2TDs.
I don't understand what is so amazing about that.
You missed the part where I wrote, "unless the they draft someone else". In addition, Gillislee failed as the "bigger back role" last year which was not his fault - that is not his game. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if Gillisle asks for his release at some point during training camp. If Hill is truly over his injury, he'll easily be the featured back in this offense.
Yes he is more dangerous at the 2nd level than the line of scrimmage but I believe more often than not he could pick up a first down if the blocking was poor. I'm not talking about defenders already in the backfield which was most of the blocking Laurence Maroney had which didn't give him any time to dance. Lol.
I guess you didn't pick up on the humor regarding Hogan and Burkhead. I know they don't do this on purpose. Ditto with Mitchell. I agree Brady throws hospital balls which one contributed to Gronk getting his ACL torn by TJ Ward.
Yes, but you still need to have other WR's help out. The less threats on the outside makes it easier to take out Gronk if you haven't noticed.
You missed the part where I said he could have the Hernandez role. Allen is making too much money just to block.
Of course it's possible Garcia steps up out of nowhere, but you can't just assume someone already on the Pats roster or rookie can realistically step up and protect Brady in a pass heavy offense with a now 41 year old QB when the season starts.
The comparison I made for Clayborn to Ealy is that I could see Clayborn not even making the team. Wise having another year in the system will help him not being so undisciplined vs the run. He also needs to learn more pass rush moves than just the track star move. After teams picked up on his only move, he was invisible after week 3.
I agree that solid DT's make your overall run D look better than it might be (see the Vikings defense when they had Pat & Kevin Williams). However, their LB's had a phobia of defending passes in the flat and had a hard time defending RB's in general.
This is not by design. When they had Hightower, Mayo and Collins on the roster, did the exclusively run a two LB set? No. They wanted them all out there but Mayo regressed really bad. They do this now to try to hide their extremely putrid LB corps. I also think BB would rather run a 3-4 but he can't find the players to effectively run his style of defense. LB's are two small these days and it's hard to find DL like Warren and Seymour.
My issue is that they both aren't very good. Rowe couldn't play inside or outside gave up the most yards per play last year. This is all they talked about during Super Bowl week. Too many people here like Jones because he's "fast" but he got beat quite a bit last year.
I agree about not overlooking the salary cap. However, this is something you do when you don't have a QB going on 41. It really defeats the narrative that the Pats are "all in" for Brady after trading Jimmy G.
We were out bid for his services. We were also out bid for WR Danny Amendola and RB Dion Lewis.
LT: Most important position on the O-line and they let Solder walk.
You could just as easily say that Carson Wentz could be playing for the Eagles and have them win by a larger margin
Marcus Peters and Michael Bennett would bring some much needed nastiness to the defense but they are both headcases. I wanted the Pats to sign Bennett after he was a free agent from Tampa Bay as he didn't lose his s*** until he went to Seattle ala Talib when he went to the Broncos. In addition, at some point you'd have to pay Peters and he's too much of a risk.What are your thoughts on passing on Marcus Peters or what we believe is BB not even attempting to reach out to Sherman? Given how I agree JJones isn't the answer at CB2 either. What about whiffing in speed to make a trade offer for Bennett?
On paper, Peters and Bennett are exactly the type of players this defense could use and they were both had for nothing this offseason by the Rams and Eagles respectively. Were their personalities too big for this team?
The comparison I made for Clayborn to Ealy is that I could see Clayborn not even making the team. Wise having another year in the system will help him not being so undisciplined vs the run. He also needs to learn more pass rush moves than just the track star move. After teams picked up on his only move, he was invisible after week 3.
Yes he is more dangerous at the 2nd level than the line of scrimmage but I believe more often than not he could pick up a first down if the blocking was poor
Yes, but you still need to have other WR's help out. The less threats on the outside makes it easier to take out Gronk if you haven't noticed.
Of course it's possible Garcia steps up out of nowhere, but you can't just assume someone already on the Pats roster or rookie can realistically step up and protect Brady in a pass heavy offense with a now 41 year old QB when the season starts.
I agree that solid DT's make your overall run D look better than it might be (see the Vikings defense when they had Pat & Kevin Williams). However, their LB's had a phobia of defending passes in the flat and had a hard time defending RB's in general.
This is not by design. When they had Hightower, Mayo and Collins on the roster, did the exclusively run a two LB set? No. They wanted them all out there but Mayo regressed really bad. They do this now to try to hide their extremely putrid LB corps. I also think BB would rather run a 3-4 but he can't find the players to effectively run his style of defense. LB's are two small these days and it's hard to find DL like Warren and Seymour.
My issue is that they both aren't very good. Rowe couldn't play inside or outside gave up the most yards per play last year. This is all they talked about during Super Bowl week. Too many people here like Jones because he's "fast" but he got beat quite a bit last year.
I don't think he was playing better than Foles was his last two games so not reallyYou could just as easily say that Carson Wentz could be playing for the Eagles and have them win by a larger margin
I don't understand what is so amazing about that.
You missed the part where I wrote, "unless the they draft someone else". In addition, Gillislee failed as the "bigger back role" last year which was not his fault - that is not his game. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if Gillisle asks for his release at some point during training camp. If Hill is truly over his injury, he'll easily be the featured back in this offense.
Yes he is more dangerous at the 2nd level than the line of scrimmage but I believe more often than not he could pick up a first down if the blocking was poor. I'm not talking about defenders already in the backfield which was most of the blocking Laurence Maroney had which didn't give him any time to dance. Lol.
I guess you didn't pick up on the humor regarding Hogan and Burkhead. I know they don't do this on purpose. Ditto with Mitchell. I agree Brady throws hospital balls which one contributed to Gronk getting his ACL torn by TJ Ward.
Yes, but you still need to have other WR's help out. The less threats on the outside makes it easier to take out Gronk if you haven't noticed.
You missed the part where I said he could have the Hernandez role. Allen is making too much money just to block.
Of course it's possible Garcia steps up out of nowhere, but you can't just assume someone already on the Pats roster or rookie can realistically step up and protect Brady in a pass heavy offense with a now 41 year old QB when the season starts.
The comparison I made for Clayborn to Ealy is that I could see Clayborn not even making the team. Wise having another year in the system will help him not being so undisciplined vs the run. He also needs to learn more pass rush moves than just the track star move. After teams picked up on his only move, he was invisible after week 3.
I agree that solid DT's make your overall run D look better than it might be (see the Vikings defense when they had Pat & Kevin Williams). However, their LB's had a phobia of defending passes in the flat and had a hard time defending RB's in general.
This is not by design. When they had Hightower, Mayo and Collins on the roster, did the exclusively run a two LB set? No. They wanted them all out there but Mayo regressed really bad. They do this now to try to hide their extremely putrid LB corps. I also think BB would rather run a 3-4 but he can't find the players to effectively run his style of defense. LB's are two small these days and it's hard to find DL like Warren and Seymour.
My issue is that they both aren't very good. Rowe couldn't play inside or outside gave up the most yards per play last year. This is all they talked about during Super Bowl week. Too many people here like Jones because he's "fast" but he got beat quite a bit last year.
It really defeats the narrative that the Pats are "all in" for Brady after trading Jimmy G.
You clearly don't know what a "Hospital Ball" is. Doesn't matter had he hit him low or high, Brady led Gronk right into that hit of TJ Ward. Gronk was clearly defenseless when he caught that ball and didn't have time to avoid it. Obviously Brady didn't do this on purpose as he probably didn't see Ward. Those types of throws only work in Madden.Complete and total bs. Hospital ball my ass, the throw had nothing to do with it. TJ (Knee Hunter) Ward hit exactly what he was aiming at
You clearly don't know what a "Hospital Ball" is. Doesn't matter had he hit him low or high, Brady led Gronk right into that hit of TJ Ward. Gronk was clearly defenseless when he caught that ball and didn't have time to avoid it. Obviously Brady didn't do this on purpose as he probably didn't see Ward. Those types of throws only work in Madden.
These hits are the reason why Gronk is contemplating retirement.
The theme of this board - can't debate, just name call and criticize other posters when it doesn't go their way.You won today's trophy
Congrats.
Gronk isn’t defenseless he is a runner at that point. If ward didn’t take the cheap shot at the knees Gronk would have pummeled him.You clearly don't know what a "Hospital Ball" is. Doesn't matter had he hit him low or high, Brady led Gronk right into that hit of TJ Ward. Gronk was clearly defenseless when he caught that ball and didn't have time to avoid it. Obviously Brady didn't do this on purpose as he probably didn't see Ward. Those types of throws only work in Madden.
These hits are the reason why Gronk is contemplating retirement.
I guess we can agree to disagree. I see that he didn't have time to locate Ward and truck him.Gronk isn’t defenseless he is a runner at that point. If ward didn’t take the cheap shot at the knees Gronk would have pummeled him.
The theme of this board - can't debate, just name call and criticize other posters when it doesn't go their way.
Thanks for telling me how it is.Maybe if you didn't post nonsense you would get the 'debate' you desire. Most intelligent people take the axioms 'fool me once...' and "Never argue with a fool, they will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience" to heart when in a forum environment. In this instance I went so far in as to include the vid to illustrate the point in the first place yet you tell me I clearly do not know what I am talking about. At least on this subject you have no clue what you are talking about. Not go my way?? lmao Your post contradicted itself and contains the seeds of it's own defeat. Throwing a 'hospital ball' and "he probably didn't see Ward" are pretty much mutually exclusive. Not to mention that's a very common pass and a dirty hit. You shouldn't confuse someone choosing not to engage someone else that doesn't understand the subject with someone unwilling to debate someone who simply disagrees. As a rule I enjoy a good debate, come at me with a good one and we will have it
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