NFL considering changing DPI to 15 yard penalty

[maineman209]

This could virtually eliminate epic catches on contested deep balls.

 

[PatsFan2]

Mediocre cornerbacks are going to love this.

Minus Stephon Gilmore and Butler in 2018 the Patriots will be fielding a few. *The minus means neither is Mediocre*.

 

[PatsFan2]

The problem with DPI in the NFL is that there is no way of knowing whether the receiver would have caught the ball had their been no interference. The current rule unfairly helps the offense.

I have no Problem with the current rule.

 

[maineman209]

So other than busted coverage there goes any pass play of more than 14 yards.
There's incompetence and then there's the NFL competition committee

"Anytime I had a problem, I just threw a Malatov ****tail at it. And, BOOM! I had a whole different problem!"
----------------- Jason Mendoza

 

[Kontradiction]

So other than busted coverage there goes any pass play of more than 14 yards.
There's incompetence and then there's the NFL competition committee

Pretty much. Any corners that are beat clean off the line will do what they do in college, which is just commit DPI and surrender the 15 yards instead of where the ball would have been caught had DPI not occurred.

 

[maineman209]

Pretty much. Any corners that are beat clean off the line will do what they do in college, which is just commit DPI and surrender the 15 yards instead of where the ball would have been caught had DPI not occurred.

I wonder how much more difficult it may have become, since the college rule went into effect, for pro scouts to find college CB prospects who can actually cover deep.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The rule that I hate is the "half the distance to the goal" rule on offense. I think the penalty should move you back to the one-yard line. It is in opposition to penalties against the defense in the red zone.

 

[sb1]

we already have this, its called "illegal contact" and DPI

Illegal contact is contacting any receiver after 5 yards, and not necessarily the receiver being thrown to and not necessarily when the ball is in flight.

 

[mgteich]

A flagrant DPI should be marked at the spot of the foul.

Otherwise, it is clearly right to tackle a receiver if a DB can't stop the reception.

When the Patriots decide to flat out tackle a guy who is going to beat one of our defenders (for a 30+ yard pickup), they'll change the rules to make it more interpretive so it's either 15 yards or spot foul for a flagrant DPI.

 

[ivanvamp]

This is how they do it in college, right? I don't hear a lot of controversy about it there. I'm okay with it, but with one stipulation: Make it like a foul in basketball, in that if the receiver still makes the catch, they get the 15 yards added to it, instead of it just being declined. Will help to disincentive some of the potential shenanigans.

That will only encourage the DBs to really maul the receivers.

 

[maineman209]

Other potential knock-on effects, perhaps ...

Deep Safety maybe becomes a bit less valuable; not as much need for double coverage deep?

Obviously, QBs who aren't accurate on throws beyond 15 yards or so may get a boost.

 

[varjao]

Like it has been said already, unless there's a flagrant DPI on the spot, pass attempts in the endzone will result with WR's being thrown out of the club Gronk style. It's gonna be funny.

 

[ivanvamp]

A flagrant DPI should be marked at the spot of the foul.

Otherwise, it is clearly right to tackle a receiver if a DB can't stop the reception.

I've long advocated this:

If the penalty happens 15 yards or shorter:
- An incidental PI = spot of the foul (say, a 7-yard hitch pattern).
- A flagrant PI = 15 yards.

If the penalty happens more than 15 yards downfield.
- An incidental PI = 15 yards.
- A flagrant PI = spot of the foul (say, a 30 yard fly pattern).

So DBs can't just maul people or they'll get more severely penalized. But also it doesn't make it a 30 yard penalty if you incidentally commit PI.

Yes it's a judgment call. Just like SO many penalties. Let it be reviewable by challenge.

 

[Joey007]

Well there goes half of Harbaugh's playbook...

Post of the year. Because it’s true.

 

[Pape]

If they make this change, does that me we are in for more aggressive CB & Safety play? If so I'm all for it.....

 

[Sicilian]

College announcers and fans complain about the rule all the time.

This is actually good to know. I don't watch enough college football to say, so I was only going by the fact that I don't hear a lot of sports radio discussions on it. Not a great barometer, I know, but you hear about questionable NFL PI calls all the time. If it's a point of contention in college, I'm not sure why they would consider the rule change at the pro level.

That will only encourage the DBs to really maul the receivers.

It's a possibility for sure, but I've always felt that most players' instincts will be to try to make a play on the ball when they can. If they're getting roasted so bad they can't recover, I'm not sure they'll be in position to really maul people. Players have a hard enough time tackling runners when they're gearing up to do just that, never mind from an angle after they've already been beat.

 

[jah]

Pretty much. Any corners that are beat clean off the line will do what they do in college, which is just commit DPI and surrender the 15 yards instead of where the ball would have been caught had DPI not occurred.

So that's really how it works in college football? Sad but expected. So far I've read two accounts in this thread about its college implementation not being so good, and nothing really at all suggesting that it works well.

 

[XLIX]

The problem with this is obvious. Unless they're going to make regular DPI 15 yards and then invent something called "flagrant defensive pass interference" which is a spot foul.

That will never work. People would lose their bleeping minds arguing whether that 55 yard pass was regular DPI or "flagrant" DPI.

 

[XLIX]

Pretty much. Any corners that are beat clean off the line will do what they do in college, which is just commit DPI and surrender the 15 yards instead of where the ball would have been caught had DPI not occurred.

You must not watch much college football because this statement is just ignorance.

There are plenty of deep passes completed in the NCAA, and DPI is not called any more in college than in the NFL. And I say that as someone who does not support changing the NFL's rule.

 

[XLIX]

Source: NFL could change defensive PI to 15-yard penalty

I think we all know:

a) Why this is happening THIS year.

Um, no.... I can't say I see any specific reason why it is happening THIS year (if it even happens at all). Please enlighten.