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I wonder if them putting out that announcement actually had the opposite effect on a wavering McDaniels. Like he felt they were trying to give him no choice so he went the other way (along with enticements from Kraft).

I love that he obviously loves being here.
 
I dunno about you guys, but I woke up with a smile this morning.
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1) McDaniels wants to be a HC in the pretty near term. Why else did he go interviewing and then go further and (initially) accept the IND offer?
2) McDaniels has to know that leaving IND at the altar like that is going to make him radioactive. No one is going to want to touch him for years. So that means any HC ambitions he has are dead, dead, dead anywhere other than NE.
3) McDaniels had a guaranteed HC job. So it is very reasonable to expect he's been given assurances about becoming the next HC of the NEP. Would be strange to give up a guaranteed HC job now for a future maybe HC job.

Putting all that together, unless McDaniels has had a massive change in his ambitions, he is expecting to be the head coach here pretty soon, which in turn means that Belichick would be leaving pretty soon.

I agree except for the necessity of complying with the Rooney Rule when the Patriots begin to "look" for a new HC.
 
The paragraph below is from Peter Kings Article. I thought there may be some kind of assurance in his contract that he would be the next head coach. IMO, his relationship with Brady and having to relocate his family kept him in New England. Also, a little extra $$$ is always nice.

That’s a sign that the McDaniels-Patriots marriage got somehow rekindled in a long day of talks in Foxboro. A source close to the story said late Tuesday night that, as part of his agreement to stay in New England, McDaniels got no written assurance that he will succeed the 65-year-old Belichick when he walks away from the job. No one knows when that will be. Belichick will coach at least this year, and at the Super Bowl last week, one longtime Belichick acquaintance said he thought Belichick would coach multiple years in New England, despite the reports of discord between him and Kraft.
 
I cannot imagine bringing my family up in such a backward facing state. Friggin religious nuts everywhere and crazy folks who are 50 years behind the times, and gun laws that will get your children killed. No thank you!

There are advantages to living in a state that provides some of the greatest education in the country, has progressive laws, and has thoughtful people who call it home.

It's the worst.

I was once outside of a CVS corporate building just north of downtown and I was going in for an appointment and I had to park in a lot adjacent to the CVS corporate lot because there were literally no spaces and no roadside spaces at all. There was an old broken down concrete, small building like an old gas station at the top of the adjacent lot. I pulled in an parked and was about to walk across the small patch of grass, and these two hillbilly types all but cornered me at my car, right up in my grill, about 3 teeth, just screaming in anger at me, with me not having a clue what they were even saying.

I honestly thought I was going to need to throw down with these two to defend myself, but I saw how irate they were, and realized it was their property, and even though no one was in their massive parking lot, they hated CVS and didn't want me here. lmao

I just got back in my car and drove off.

It was the most bizarre "almost had to fight" experience I've ever had. The father sort of took the lead and had 3 fingers up in my face as if it meant something. he just kept yelling things and I had no idea what he was so angry about or what he was saying.

Oh, also this gal grabbed my crotch outside on the sidewalk of the Hard Rock across from the Hampton Inn, where I used to stay downtown. Just walked right up to me, sized me up and grabbed my junk right there on the sidewalk. She was high as hell. It was like 6PM in broad daylight in the summer. It was a kind of girl you simply didn't want grabbing your crotchal region, if you know what I mean. Not good. Ugly.

Weird, weird place.

They do not like people that don't come off like a redneck hillbilly.

It's a pathetic place with a lame downtown. To this day, I have no idea how on god's green earth they were awarded a Super Bowl.

They have a decent arts district, but the downtown area is really limited. Easily the worst major Midwest city you can go to. Even Detroit is better.

I could not figure out why McDaniels would openly choose to go there, so I figured Irsay must be severly overpaying to even get him to be interested. Luck's career is up in the air, they're a hokey franchise, AND they made his life a living hell leading up to SB 49, with more institutionalized cheating from Goodell and the Colts with Framegate II.

It simply made no sense. Good on Kraft for giving McDaniels more money to stay and good move by Josh to stay with his family in a much healthier place to live. Not a huge fan of McDaniels, as I think he struggles at times in games, but for continuity and keeping Brady happy, I am good with it.
 
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The paragraph below is from Peter Kings Article. I thought there may be some kind of assurance in his contract that he would be the next head coach. IMO, his relationship with Brady and having to relocate his family kept him in New England. Also, a little extra $$$ is always nice.

That’s a sign that the McDaniels-Patriots marriage got somehow rekindled in a long day of talks in Foxboro. A source close to the story said late Tuesday night that, as part of his agreement to stay in New England, McDaniels got no written assurance that he will succeed the 65-year-old Belichick when he walks away from the job. No one knows when that will be. Belichick will coach at least this year, and at the Super Bowl last week, one longtime Belichick acquaintance said he thought Belichick would coach multiple years in New England, despite the reports of discord between him and Kraft.


Sounds about right. "MossLost" was on here last night saying NFLN was guaranteeing BB resigs after 2018, where I said "there is no way that is true because we don't know anything".

As this proves, the whole "transition" concept is really an up in the air thing.
 
The paragraph below is from Peter Kings Article. I thought there may be some kind of assurance in his contract that he would be the next head coach. IMO, his relationship with Brady and having to relocate his family kept him in New England. Also, a little extra $$$ is always nice.

That’s a sign that the McDaniels-Patriots marriage got somehow rekindled in a long day of talks in Foxboro. A source close to the story said late Tuesday night that, as part of his agreement to stay in New England, McDaniels got no written assurance that he will succeed the 65-year-old Belichick when he walks away from the job. No one knows when that will be. Belichick will coach at least this year, and at the Super Bowl last week, one longtime Belichick acquaintance said he thought Belichick would coach multiple years in New England, despite the reports of discord between him and Kraft.

No, WRITTEN assurance is different than no assurance. Kraft likely gave McDaniels verbal assurance.
 
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Omg the first 2-3 pages of this thread were horrible
 
PFT explains it well... it's the Colts that tried to pull a **** move.

Colts should have learned from the Bears’ mess with Dave McGinnis

"On Tuesday the Colts announced that Josh McDaniels would be their next head coach, but by Tuesday night McDaniels had informed them he wasn’t taking the job.

McDaniels never signed a contract with the Colts, never put out a public statement saying he would be the next Colts head coach, and repeatedly refused to answer reporters when they asked him if he’d coach the Colts. So why did the Colts put out the announcement?

Maybe the Colts thought a verbal agreement was good enough. Or maybe the Colts knew that (as PFT reported on Sunday) McDaniels was wavering, and they thought putting out a public announcement would make him feel like he had no choice but to follow through."

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as to the assistant coaches, maybe McDaniels discussed with the Colts who it was he’d like to hire, once (and if) he accepted, and the Colts went and hired them as part of their effort to make him feel like he had no choice but to go there. They were trying to shame him into accepting the job.

It’s not hard to believe that the Colts can be both that incompetent and that sleazy. Look at their drug-addled lying weasel of an owner.

I kinda wondered if that was the case - that they publicized the hire etc. to quash the rumors that had built that McD might be staying. It may not play well in the media (blaming Josh is much easier, because Patriots), but holy hell does that speak to incompetence on Indy's part.

Same goes for hiring the assistant coaches who presumed that Josh was locked in. We can guess that the presumption came from the Colts and not from Josh himself. But again, easier to say "Josh didn't say anything to the assistant who've signed on about this decision" and slime him instead of having it get out that the Colts just write checks they can't cash like fools.
 
No WRITTEN assurance is different than no assurance. Kraft likely gave McDaniels verbal assurance.

I am sure it's now been discussed. I am honestly shocked the JimmyG thing, the Brady retirement window and the Josh discussion was not already nailed down more.

You can tell they sort of talked about this stuff, but nothing was really firmly implemented in terms of a succession plan.
 
Now need to see BB sign a new three or four year deal to stick it to the media.

The reasoning.. when the media knows your going the narrative never ever changes, we have seen it the last 24hrs. What needs to happen to change that narrative is for BB to sign a three or four year deal, to shut the fcuk up the media stories, the narrative to how they want it. But then still go in a year or two. You see the stories will always be, player x knows BB is done, who gives a bleep about what he says, or BB don't care about the cap, he isn't here next year, you see the narrative could destroy BB's final year if that is even a go and there is evidence it happens.

This happened previously here in England to a and it pains me to say it a great coach who is a bit like BB in Sir Alex Ferguson. He actually came out and said it was his last season and was to retire, what happened was it destroyed the season, players gave up, everyone questioned whether he still had the heart, it meant he didn't leave in a blaze of glory and in the end he changed his mind. Signed a new deal, he didn't want to go out that way. Then whilst in that deal he woke up one morning and announced his retirement without anyone knowing or expecting it. This is how you have to do it, or next season is going to be a car crash for BB.

Control the narrative.

That would be fun. Kraft never announces the years on BB's deal, but now maybe they should just to rub it in the troll media's face.

The media is loaded with just despicable human beings. I have never seen anything like it.
 
One great joy im getting post SB loss is reading the melt down by Colts fans demanding multiple draft picks from the Pats for damages lol
 
Personally I am not thrilled he is staying but
I think Patricia has a chance to break that.

For one thing, he's got a real QB. And having Quinn there helps a lot.

We will see though. It's Detroit, the bar isn't that high.
We will see sooner than you think - Detroit is on this year's schedule and it could potentially be on Thanksgiving
 
No WRITTEN assurance is different than no assurance. Kraft likely gave McDaniels verbal assurance.

As someone pointed out elsewhere in this thread, because of the Rooney Rule it is probably NFL-illegal to give any written/contractual assurance since teams are required to interview minorities before hiring HCs. If you were to bindingly promise to hire X as HC you are by definition violating the Rule unless X is a minority.
 
I don't mind he move, but mcdaniels is quickly becoming one of he most unlikeable coaches around the league if you read players, fans tweets..his reputation has suffered


He won't be able to leave New England for a while
 


Of course St. Dungy feels the need to virtue signal about "your word." Come the F on. I'm triggered.


Dungy does have a point. I’d to hate to have to quit my job to take another one only to find out the new job isn’t there any more.
 
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