Malcolm Butler Mega Thread

[Joey007]

Tom Brady is why we’ve been to 8.

They both are.

They have been then perfect storm and no one should ever forget that.

 

[Absurdly Metro]

This entire board right now sounds like it's originating from an insane asylum. The Eagles were better tonight. They deserved to win. Their offense would have scored at least the same number of points with Malcolm Butler or without him. I hated losing this game. Why can't some people just admit that Philly was better tonight? It's embarrassing.

How do you know? One play can turn a game. Ask Seattle whether Butler could have made that one key play this defense needed. One play. One third down tackle.

That said, all credit to Philly for making more plays. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be disappointed they did it with one of our best defenders and tacklers on the sidelines.

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

He had a bad year. The possibility that that, coupled with his having to stay behind an extra day in Boston in the hospital and possibly bad performances in practice led to it. The point is we don't know, and the idea that Belichick just suddenly lost his mind or (my personal favorite) just had to prove how arrogant he is is beyond stupid.

So you agree that if he benched butler for no other reason than he thought it was the best move for the team to win, he's stupid?

 

[FreeCourtroomBrady]

2010 Divisional match up vs the Jets was in my opinion, the worst blunder by Belichick in his coaching career.

 

[Nehalem]

Not starting Butler was one thing. Perhaps that can be defended. However, not putting him in after getting embarrassed on drive after drive was inexcusable.

And no, i dont need to know what he did to make this call. It doesnt matter.

Especially since has active. Anything that would have justified leaving him out of the game in the 2nd half should also have prevented him from being in the stadium, let alone active.

 

[Galeb]

To all those who think that Belichick threw away a Super Bowl by not playing Butler, I suggest finding another team. Belichick had given up on Butler, as Butler told us. He certainly believed that starting Rowe was a better option for the team, and that Jones was a better nickel.

Personally, if that were the case, I still might have played him as a sub instead of Bademosi. But that choice was likely made in practice.

Beleichick won't change. After all, his methods have been shown to be so flawed. And those coaches chosen by him will follow his lead.

Everyone changes. Unless something really bizarre happened, BB's behavior is inconsistent and likely cost the Patriots, and Brady, a 6th superbowl.

 

[fightingirish595]

belichick had this defense playing way above its head all year. Just stop

 

[Todd Bradley]

2010 Divisional match up vs the Jets was in my opinion, the worst blunder by Belichick in his coaching career.

Well, not anymore.

 

[FCB02062]

Fanboys got lots rationalize to do

 

[Observer]

This entire board right now sounds like it's originating from an insane asylum. The Eagles were better tonight. They deserved to win. Their offense would have scored at least the same number of points with Malcolm Butler or without him. I hated losing this game. Why can't some people just admit that Philly was better tonight? It's embarrassing.

Because there is strong reason to believe that our coach deliberately didn’t start the best team.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

I love it.
BB went from the GOAT to " The guy who lost a SB, because our above JAG, CB was kept out of the game"..

Everybody is to blame.
Nobody played, coached good enough.

They stunk... The trick plays were pathetic, missed FG's, X pts ... etc


They just lost.

The offense played good enough. The defense didn’t. Idk if having butler in there changes things but I’m pissed we didn’t get a chance to see if it would.

 

[rochrist]

So you agree that if he benched butler for no other reason than he thought it was the best move for the team to win, he's stupid?

No, I gave that as one possibility. The point is, YOU DON'T KNOW, and I'll trust the guy who's been coaching in the NFL for nearly 50 years and has SEVEN Super Bowl rings more than the people fly in here for a couple of years and are incredibly spoiled by success.

 

[Real World]

This loss is on BB. You can't tell me that Butler doesn't make a difference after watching this game. The defense was atrocious.

If Butler plays, we win.

 

[juny]

I think everyone needs to tweet Malcolm Butler's accoutn and give him words of encouragement. I just dont know why he didnt play defense at all today. The defense was historically bad tonight, he could have helped some at least

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

I don't by the Belichick grudge conspiracy theories, but I think he needs to answer to why he waited until after warmups to decide that not playing Butler on Defense was the best option. If there was a good chance Butler wasn't going to start then he shouldn't have been getting reps in warmups it may have given others a chance to get things right.

Who knows if we will ever get the info on butler

 

[UGAPatsfan]

I think Cooks odd choice of attempted hurdle was a sneaky huge play...for the Eagles. That, and Pederson having the calls to go for it in huge moments twice.

 

[DaBruinz]

If the reports are true, wtf.. Benching Butler for a quarter might make sense. Benching him for the whole game cost the Pats the superbowl. Used to be IBBIT. Not so sure anymore. Stupid ****ing decision if the reports are true.

So, you can see alternate realities and you can know, for certain, that having Butler on the field would have guaranteed a win? WOW. Care to offer up the winning lottery numbers?

I am as disappointed as anyone that Butler didn't get a snap on the defensive side of the ball. Especially since Richards and Rowe played like crap. But the one thing I know for a fact is that no one can know what would have happened if Butler was on the field instead. All I can posit is that the game would have been different.

 

[fightingirish595]

Where was trey flowers tonight

 

[TheFlyingWedge]

When Richards is in the game bad things happen.

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

No, I gave that as one possibility. The point is, YOU DON'T KNOW, and I'll trust the guy who's been coaching in the NFL for nearly 50 years and has SEVEN Super Bowl rings more than the people fly in here for a couple of years and are incredibly spoiled by success.

Ok, so you're just a blind follower. And even when belichick does something wrong or questionable you will just turn a blind eye because of past achievements, got it. Idk why you bring up being spoiled by success and SB rings as if it has anything at all to do with this conversation.