The chances that Brady's successor is a FA?

[signbabybrady]

Wrong UDFA. He was born too soon. Brady's true replacement won't have been born until after Brady was drafted.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

so

Dude, Brady’s just entering his THIRD prime. We should be fine until about 2031

someone need to kidnap or shut Gisele up then

 

[convertedpatsfan]

The draft class offers a deep group of potential franchise QBs with Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield and Allen, but they are likely to go top 10. The secondary group of Rudolph and Jackson is too risky for my liking at #32.

Do you really think 4 QBs are going in the top 10?

I think each of the 4 has a suitor who loves them enough to take them, but I don't think all 4 are so universally-loved that 4 needy teams in the top 10 will take them in whatever order they're available.

Some of these guys might be worth the #1 pick overall to one team, and not drafted til the 2nd or 3rd for others. So I don't think 4 QBs are going in the top 10, especially when there are maybe only 4 teams in the top 10 that need QBs (Browns, Giants, Broncos, Jets). Only twice in the past 10 drafts have there been 3 QBs taken in the top 10, and there were some reaches there (Ryan Tannehill at 8 in 2012, Jake Locker at 8 and Blaine Gabbert at 10 in 2011).

I think teams have realized that not all top-rated QBs are the same and systems matter too so I don't think all 4 will be going in the top 10. I'd expect one or two slide a bit.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

so

someone need to kidnap or shut Gisele up then

I VOLUNTEER!

 

[TinhWoodhead]

I've wondered why not a bridge guy like (I'm not naming any one particular player) Brees, Roth, Ryan, Rivers who finds a year or two with BB interesting and comes over until the Pats find the permanent solution.

Ride Brady until he's 50 if you can. Don't worry about the backup. And as long as BB is here, someone better than Keenum or Bridgewater will be available pretty quickly for Bill. Are we really worried about nothing?

Bridgewater for bridge guy?

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Brady just can't win. If he's 43 and playing at an all time level people will say he's juicing. I think he could play well the next two season though.

 

[Joey007]

No. Get a young guy with a blank slate in the system and mold him. I don’t want another teams rejects.

Plus the cap space will be wayyy too large of a number.

 

[Joey007]

Just stick with the draft.

The rookie won’t be ready his first year, but then if Brady retires at 42 or so, we’ll have a QB groomed.

 

[mosslost]

Wrong UDFA. He was born too soon. Brady's true replacement won't have been born until after Brady was drafted.

I never said he is Brady replacement

 

[Joey007]

Here’s what intrigues me:

We have a couple of 2nd’s to go with our 1st. Is it impossible that Bill trades up for a QB?

Obviously we don’t have the capital to trade up too high, but if a Baker Mayfield drops down to the later 1st round... well we’ve seen Bill pull off shocker moves before.

 

[n1997y]

Here’s what intrigues me:

We have a couple of 2nd’s to go with our 1st. Is it impossible that Bill trades up for a QB?

Obviously we don’t have the capital to trade up too high, but if a Baker Mayfield drops down to the later 1st round... well we’ve seen Bill pull off shocker moves before.

I don't think BB will draft any of the big name QB prospects, I think he's much more likely to dip into the D2 (or even less heralded) talent pool. Problem with the big name guys is that they are a high risk to already be spoiled by the coddling that goes with being BMOC. Bill would much rather get a guy that he can teach his way of approaching preparation and the entire lifestyle of being a pro athlete.

I think Kyle Lauletta is a good fit, more likely than Mayfield et al. FCS level college player. He was projected as a fifth round pick, but that was before he lit it up as Senior Bowl MVP. He may move up after that. Add in the lacrosse background and Naval Academy ties and he seems like Belichick's kind of guy. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bill drafts him with pick #32, in order to get the extra year on his rookie contract so we won't face another Garrapolo situation anytime soon.

2018 Senior Bowl: One player scientifically engineered to be Bill Belichick's perfect QB

 

[Jackson 2]

At this very moment Brady's replacement is trying to find the courage to ask his crush to the prom.

His parents are bringing him to school tomorrow for kindergarten registration.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

True FA doesn't make sense to me. However I wonder what they thought of Davis Webb, I just read that the NYG don't seem to have plans for him. The report could be wrong but he has three years left so he could be an interesting shot if he's cheap.

Davis Webb lost in the mix with Giants new regime

 

[sportnik]

I see it as a virtual certainty that they are going to draft & attempt to develop Brady's successor, likely with a 1 or a 2 this year. Whomever they pick will have the advantages of top level coaching and time to develop.

If you look at the successful QB's in the NFL, particularly the ones that were not drafted in the first 10 picks (Brady, Montana, Rodgers, etc) having a season or two of development time is extremely helpful, giving the player a chance to figure out what they are doing before getting thrown into the fire & potentially having their confidence damaged.

 

[PATS16N0]

Tom wants to play until he's 45 and i've learned not to doubt him. We got awhile.

 

[maineman209]

Hoyer's total cap hit for 2018 & 2019 combined is $3.965M, and he already knows the Pats' systems. It would be really difficult for a different vet QB to beat that value, at least in the short term.

The Pats have six draft picks and about $13.7M in cap space.

They may be able to increase their cap space by as much as $17M fairly quickly, through various cuts and restructurings.

However, they may also have fairly immediate roster needs at OT, RB and LB - and possibly at TE, depending on how contract stuff works out with Allen and Bennett. They may also have 2-year time frame developmental needs at WR and safety - and possibly at CB, deending on whay happens with Butler and Bademosi.

Roster-building this off-season will be challenging, even without bringing a rookie QB into the mix.

 

[dafoe2016]

If they wanted to pay a bunch of money for a backup they would have kept Jimmy. They will try to get Brady's backup through the draft until they find someone they like. If that doesn't happen, they may dip into free agency and take a chance on a high or moderately priced veteran. But that wont happen while Brady is still here.

 

[Nehalem]

These guys obviously don't want to be backups, but we may be headed into a rare situation in which there are more than 32 viable QBs.

My my estimation, 23 teams have starters locked in for 2018 (NE, MIA, PIT, BAL, CIN, IND, TEN, HOU, OAK, LAC, KC, DAL, PHI, GB, DET, CHI, CAR, TB, ATL, NO, LAR, SEA, SF). That number may very well be higher, as it does not include Cousins, Bortles, Manning or any of Minnesota's QBs.

Now you add 10 vets with either successful starting experience, or whom have been projected as possible starters, potentially entering the market (Cousins, Smith, Taylor, Keenum, Bridgewater, Bradford, Bortles, Manning, Foles, McCarron).

Throw in Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield who will probably be counted on to start sometime in 2018, and you are looking at 36 QBs who will be viewed as starting caliber.


My point boils down to the fact that I am not comfortable with the prospect of drafting a project in the first two rounds. I would rather those picks either spent bolstering the roster for Brady's final years, or moving value to target a lower risk QB in 2019 or 2020.

Should that be the plan, and if cap space allows, there is at least potential that someone from this free agent class that could emerge as a suitable starter a couple years down the road.

I would argue that a year with a good QB crop, where there isn't a high need among NFL teams to draft a QB is an excellent year to draft a QB.

At the very least the Patriots should bring in someone they think might have potential from the later rounds. Someone like Nathan Peterman, but hopefully not like Nathan Peterman if you know what I mean

It worked once before after all

 

[n1997y]

If they wanted to pay a bunch of money for a backup they would have kept Jimmy. They will try to get Brady's backup through the draft until they find someone they like. If that doesn't happen, they may dip into free agency and take a chance on a high or moderately priced veteran. But that wont happen while Brady is still here.

The only way they could have kept Jimmy would have been to use the franchise tag. Way too much money plus he would have been very unhappy. Not a winning move.