Patriots Player Departure Jimmy Garoppolo traded to SF for 2018 2nd round draft pick

[Bruins29]

When are posters going to realize that the team is a lot different than it was just 8 weeks ago. This whole coulda done it earlier BS is juvenile. The team has big holes and some issues. JE and DH may never be the same players again.

Who gives a fuk about a backup QB anyway. This is Bradys team.

 

[Clonamery]

Could we flip that 2nd round pick for Suh?

Sir, no, Suh!

 

[Ring 6]

Wrong. If BB offered him "the moon" we wouldn't know anyway -- he very well might have. What we DO know is that they negotiated earnestly with him over the spring and summer. They obviously wanted him badly enough to forego ANYTHING they could've got for him previously, which likely was more than what they just received from the 49ers. What skewed things is the conclusion by all concerned that JG wants to play NOW, in which case nothing short of the franchise tag would have keept him in New England. The Patriots even looked into doing that, but after careful consideration of how that would hamstring them financially in free agency -- and the elephant in the room of JG wanting to be a starter with Brady still viable -- they did the only thing they could to get some return for him. What happened was as much JG's choice as it was the Patriots' and also due to Brady proving he still has it for a while yet.

Yeah, Brady had to prove himself

Nice job though, twisting this into a shape that fits your narrative after you were wrong

 

[sportnik]

Any way you look at this, BB F'd up and we'll be feeling the after effects for years. They either needed to trade JG last offseason & max out on his value or commit to doing whatever was necessary to ensure JG succeeded Brady (using the franchise tag etc).

Bedard is saying that if they tried shopping JG at the draft last year they may have got a 1st & 3rd for him. They could have potentially used these picks to trade up for Deshawn Watson and been set for a decade or more.

Instead, we're a year or two away from being the Jets! Enjoy it while it lasts Pats fans.

 

[archstanton543]

When are posters going to realize that the team is a lot different than it was just 8 weeks ago. This whole coulda done it earlier BS is juvenile. The team has big holes and some issues. JE and DH may never be the same players again.

Hightower will be fine. He needs to stop taking as many of those *ahem*special vitamins*ahem* so his muscles don't tear off the bone. JE's knee is a different story. He's not getting any younger and he's going to need a year plus before he's anything like he was before.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

It's done.
The decision's made.
The paperwork is presumably being finalized as we speak.
Why did BB do it now and not in the offseason or after this season? There are almost as many possible explanations for that as there are posters who have expressed opinions. Several of them even make sense.
The only reasonable thing left to do is wait and see what, if anything, happens this afternoon.

 

[archstanton543]

Any way you look at this, BB F'd up and we'll be feeling the after effects for years. They either needed to trade JG last offseason & max out on his value or commit to doing whatever was necessary to ensure JG succeeded Brady (using the franchise tag etc).

Bedard is saying that if they tried shopping JG at the draft last year they may have got a 1st & 3rd for him. They could have potentially used these picks to trade up for Deshawn Watson and been set for a decade or more.

Instead, we're a year or two away from being the Jets! Enjoy it while it lasts Pats fans.

Yeah, "may have". There's no way they were trading into the first round last year. And no way they could have gotten the 11th or 12th pick.

With BB at the helm, there is no way in hell the Pats will be anything like the Jets. Where have you been for the last 17 years?

 

[chumpchange]

Wrong. If BB offered him "the moon" we wouldn't know anyway -- he very well might have. What we DO know is that they negotiated earnestly with him over the spring and summer. They obviously wanted him badly enough to forego ANYTHING they could've got for him previously, which likely was more than what they just received from the 49ers. What skewed things is the conclusion by all concerned that JG wants to play NOW, in which case nothing short of the franchise tag would have keept him in New England. The Patriots even looked into doing that, but after careful consideration of how that would hamstring them financially in free agency -- and the elephant in the room of JG wanting to be a starter with Brady still viable -- they did the only thing they could to get some return for him. What happened was as much JG's choice as it was the Patriots' and also due to Brady proving he still has it for a while yet.

Was he ever actually offered this deal? In other words, was it ever actually real? Or was it all just talk, like the Browns supposedly offering a first round pick for him, which has since been debunked, too? Reports seem to indicate there was never any such offer made. There is a massive difference between the Patriots offering a starter deal and having Jimmy reject it and the team just abandoning the pursuit altogether during negotiations.

 

[archstanton543]

It's done.
The decision's made.
The paperwork is presumably being finalized as we speak.
Why did BB do it now and not in the offseason or after this season? There are almost as many possible explanations for that as there are posters who have expressed opinions. Several of them even make sense.
The only reasonable thing left to do is wait and see what, if anything, happens this afternoon.

JG is a free agent after this year. You can't trade a player once he's a free agent.

 

[sportnik]

Yeah, "may have".
With BB at the helm, there is no way in hell the Pats will be anything like the Jets. Where have you been for the last 17 years?

Let's see how it looks with a JAG at QB. BB didn't look so hot with Bledsoe at QB.

 

[archstanton543]

Let's see how it looks with a JAG at QB. BB didn't look so hot with Bledsoe at QB.

 

[Peachhead]

So now we have ZERO backup QBs for the rest of the year? WTH?! Even if we sign one it'll take a while for him to get up to speed.

Not to mention the compensation is too low. I wasn't expecting two 1s, but he cost us a 2nd. And he worked out. I expected at least a decent profit.

 

[sb1]

With Jimmy gone I'm worried about some scumbag defender looking to cheapshot the G.O.A.T and end the Patriots season. Brady will need to be hyper vigilant especially against the dirtbags who play for Denver and Miami.

If that happens to Brady the season is over regardless of who the backup QB is, even if it was JG.

 

[Nunchucks]

Sorry if it doesn't fit the "Patriots are fools" narrative, but:

Why believe Ian over journalists in Cleveland? There was a ton of talk about offering a first round pick. Beddard said this morning that he believed the number 12 was on the table.

 

[archstanton543]

So now we have ZERO backup QBs for the rest of the year? WTH?! Even if we sign one it'll take a while for him to get up to speed.

Not to mention the compensation is too low. I wasn't expecting two 1s, but he cost us a 2nd. And he worked out. I expected at least a decent profit.

The Pats drafted JG at the end of the second round. Now they have the first or second pick of the second round. That's profit right there.

 

[archstanton543]

Why believe Ian over journalists in Cleveland? There was a ton of talk about offering a first round pick. Beddard said this morning that he believed the number 12 was on the table.

And that's all it was. Talk.

 

[patman12]

Any way you look at this, BB F'd up and we'll be feeling the after effects for years. They either needed to trade JG last offseason & max out on his value or commit to doing whatever was necessary to ensure JG succeeded Brady (using the franchise tag etc).

Bedard is saying that if they tried shopping JG at the draft last year they may have got a 1st & 3rd for him. They could have potentially used these picks to trade up for Deshawn Watson and been set for a decade or more.

Instead, we're a year or two away from being the Jets! Enjoy it while it lasts Pats fans.

You must be new to how Belichick operates.

 

[chumpchange]

How does this lead to Bill "falling out of love" with JG? And why is it odd to make the trade if you've come to the conclusion that you won't keep him around next year without a franchise tag?

Because it appears the Pats never presented this "starter" contract to Jimmy at all.
According to Adam Schefter: "His contract was going to be up, and New England had made efforts to sign him, re-sign him. I think the more they talked, the more they recognized that it was going to be too difficult to re-sign him. And so rather than have him walk away after the season ends, they decided to make the move now, to trade him for a second-round draft pick."

"Made efforts to sign him" is not the same thing as "presented a contract which he then rejected." "Made efforts" and "talked" is what you say when you reached no agreement, presented nothing of substance, and decided to jettison the project and move on.

 

[Tunescribe]

Yeah, Brady had to prove himself Nice job though, twisting this into a shape that fits your narrative after you were wrong

Newsflash, goofball: Brady has to prove himself every day. He will be the first to agree with that. I wasn't "wrong" about anything. The Patriots went above and beyond trying to keep Garoppolo, but in the end it wasn't their decision.

 

[Galeb]

Where have you been for the last 17 years?

The bandwagon.