Official 2017 UDFA Thread

[long distance]

 

[Deus Irae]

Given that Andrews is dirt cheap, he'd presumably have to be overtaken as the backup center to lose a roster spot. Given that AFAIK they haven't signed or drafted any other centers, that's looking pretty locky.

Karras would, theoretically, be a more versatile choice, right?

 

[DaBruinz]

Karras would, theoretically, be a more versatile choice, right?

Why do you keep assuming that Andrews can't play other positions?

 

[long distance]

I expect him to make it. I just don't assign "lock" status to him.



They need an upgrade at the position. If they get one, they may not carry Andrews as a one position backup.



I could see them cutting Fletcher at any time.



I expect him to make it. I just don't assign "lock" status to him.

Not that this would change anybody's mind . let alone yours..

but still (from Reiss who's mostly right on the money):
Why Patriots OT Cameron Fleming is worth the $1.797 million RFA tender

The 6-foot-6, 320-pound Fleming was a valuable swing tackle for the Patriots in 2016, starting the season opener at left tackle and then a Week 5 win over the Cleveland Browns at right tackle. He played well, earning praise from Bill Belichick. Fleming also was occasionally used as a blocking tight end -- "No. 71 is reporting as eligible" -- and has proved to be effective at times in that role as well.

 

[manxman2601]

Not a surprising signing

 

[manxman2601]

 

[manxman2601]

 

[Patriot Missile]

Andrews is better than I'd guess over half of the centers in the NFL. Only 32 start on Sunday and the whole team can't be full of probowlers.

Can they improve the position? Probably, especially with Mangold i assume.

Was this the draft to do it in? Belichick doesn't think so. Or else he would of.

 

[patchick]

Karras would, theoretically, be a more versatile choice, right?

As a backup behind...whom? The Pats have not drafted or signed any centers this offseason. There is exactly one veteran center of note left unsigned: Nick Mangold. So when you say that Andrews doesn't look like a lock, are you saying you think it's likely that they sign Mangold?

 

[Mack Herron]

Not a surprising signing

He's in.*

Carr ran an unofficial 4.54s 40 yard dash, while Edholm reports that Carr posted an incredible 4.04s shuttle time and a filthy 6.72s three cone,

Can Northwestern WR Austin Carr be the Patriots next late round slot machine?

* Jk

 

[AtomicDawg]

 

[long distance]

Drew Morgan still out there?

Scott, Carr, Adeboeyo, Rudolph, Page..

Or they bring DeAndrew White back?

 

[Deus Irae]

As a backup behind...whom? The Pats have not drafted or signed any centers this offseason. There is exactly one veteran center of note left unsigned: Nick Mangold. So when you say that Andrews doesn't look like a lock, are you saying you think it's likely that they sign Mangold?

No, but I assigned a 95% cutoff for lock status when I posted, and I could see a better than 5% chance that Andrews doesn't make it.

If Stork hadn't declined because of whatever, would Andrews even be here at this point? I think that's a legitimate question, even if the answer from BB would make the question seem silly in retrospect.

 

[FoxboroFlyer]

Competition in camp is gonna be fierce at nearly every position! This is the year to be a spectator, if ever there was one!

 

[manxman2601]

Drew Morgan still out there?

Scott, Carr, Adeboeyo, Rudolph, Page..

Or they bring DeAndrew White back?

Morgan has gone unfortunately.

 

[Patriot Missile]

He's in.

Can Northwestern WR Austin Carr be the Patriots next late round slot machine?

Jeremy Ebert couldn't, let's see if he can.

 

[manxman2601]

Competition in camp is gonna be fierce at nearly every position! This is the year to be a spectator, if ever there was one!

Can't wait for TC and pre-season.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Carr:
2017 NFL Draft Profile: Austin Carr

OVERVIEW

While the 2016 Big Ten Receiver of the Year displays plenty of talent on the field, he also had the musical chops to win the school's Student-Athlete Talent Show in 2013. At that point in his football career, he was searching for a position. He redshirted as a preferred walk-on in 2012 and then didn't see the field the following season as he moved from running back to wide receiver. Carr got on the field a bit in 2014 (7-100) and then contributed enough as a junior (16-302, two TD) to receive a scholarship. His play took off as a senior, receiving first-team All-Big 12 honors in addition to the aforementioned receiver award as he snatched 90 throws for 1,247 yards and 12 scores.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Highly competitive. Former walk-on with very good work ethic and confidence. Plays with toughness. Willing to make his mark over middle of the field. Extremely focused when ball is in the air. Snatches the ball out in front of his frame with strong hands. "Touch it, catch it" target. Able to make the combat catches in traffic. Shows ability to drop feet in bounds to secure last-second catch on sideline. Routes are run with consistent pace and rarely gives defensive backs a snap off. Uses good positioning and leverage in his routes. Finds optimal space in zones when working underneath. Effort stalk blocker who latches with inside hands and attempts to sustain in space.
WEAKNESSES
Doesn't show enough sink into his breaks for sharp, angular cuts in his routes. Effort player who lacks plus athleticism and quick twitch. Process of slowing into top of route and opening to quarterback is slightly prolonged giving defenders a chance to match. Missing light feet and acceleration to uncover out of route breaks. Will sit and wait on throws rather than working back to them aggressively. Below average creativity as run-after-catch option. Not an NFL-caliber vertical threat. Will have to prove he can shake free from press and uncover against tight man.
DRAFT PROJECTION
PFA
BOTTOM LINE
Self-made man whose productivity on the field this season matched up with his talent and productivity off the field. Carr is a big slot receiver who is best left to working on the first and second levels in routes that are more fluid and less angular. He's tough enough to work the middle of the field and secure throws in traffic, but scouts question whether or not he's athletic enough to get open. He's a likely undrafted free agent with an outside shot to make a roster.

 

[long distance]

Can't wait for TC and pre-season.

Id suspect half of this guys won't make it to TC

More FA signings to follow..

 

[unoriginal]

No, but I assigned a 95% cutoff for lock status when I posted, and I could see a better than 5% chance that Andrews doesn't make it.

If Stork hadn't declined because of whatever, would Andrews even be here at this point? I think that's a legitimate question, even if the answer from BB would make the question seem silly in retrospect.

I think it's at least clear he would have been on the practice squad until now, given how long Chris Barker has been there...