Will Garoppolo still be a Patriot when the draft ends?

[PatriotDynasty99]

They just made 3 moves that should make their OL very good this season. They certainly have bigger names on their OL than the Pats do.

No, franchising JG next season and keeping him would be ludicrous, and so unPatriot-like that it boggles the imagination. Even if they intend to fanchise him tempararily with the idea trade him early in FA, would be a detriment. It would kill any chance to participate in 2018 FA fully while he's on the team.

Finally regardless his mark will have shrunk to a minimum because every team will know that the Pats will eventually have to let him go and they can compete for him for nothing. The only advantage of a trade at that point is to avoid the competition.

N farn, the ONLY reason to keep JG on the roster for 2017 is that you don't expect Brady to be here in 2018. Otherwise it makes no sense. BB has gone most of his 18 years coaching the Pats with no great back up QB's Including one year with a rookie UDFA being our primary back up (Bryan Hoyer). So he doesn't NEED to have someone as good as JG as the back up,

BB doesn't throw away assets. If he trades JG he can get a package of 2-3 draft picks over the next 2 years for an asset that likely will have no effect on the field this season/ How can he just let that opportunity go. Again the only reason he won't is because he's intent on keeping JG after the 2017 season as his starting QB.

You absolutely nailed it! That's it -- the only logical conclusion for passing on picking up multiple assets (picks) is if you think TB won't be here after next season and JG is going to be your QB. You can't give JG the franchise tag, have Tom Brady still on your team and eat up all your salary cap.

 

[farn]

You can't win consistently without a QB. They have a good o-line and some nice weapons. They will be better off with JG than Garrett

Maybe not consistently, but Tampa, Baltimore, and Denver have all won the SB within the last 20 years without a real QB.

 

[Ross12]

It seems like BB really doesn't wanna trade Jimmy, but it doesn't seem fiscally smart to spend the money franchising him next year, nor is it likely that he would agree to an extension to be paid less as a backup. Thus, BB would be passing up nice assets to keep a good backup for one single season, which doesn't seem reasonable - unless he intends to move on from Brady next year and keep Jimmy, but that also doesn't seem reasonable considering Brady's status with the franchise and the fact that they just recently extended him.

 

[GodBrady]

It seems like BB really doesn't wanna trade Jimmy, but it doesn't seem fiscally smart to spend the money franchising him next year, nor is it likely that he would agree to an extension to be paid less as a backup. Thus, BB would be passing up nice assets to keep a good backup for one single season, which doesn't seem reasonable - unless he intends to move on from Brady next year and keep Jimmy, but that also doesn't seem reasonable considering Brady's status with the franchise and the fact that they just recently extended him.

Well, most speculate that if the Pats hold on to Jimmy, they will franchise-then-trade him next year.

I suppose it is a nice contingency plan though if Brady falls off a cliff this year (God forbid).

Personally, I was in favor of trading Jimmy this year. I wish we would've worked out a deal with the Browns. Like you alluded to, it seems like they passed up the chance to pick up some nice assets. I think Jimmy's value right now is as high as it will ever be (if the franchise him and then trade him, they lose some leverage, because they really can't afford to commit that much cap space to Brady/Jimmy, so it sort of forces their hands).

 

[Bradyking12]

Maybe not consistently, but Tampa, Baltimore, and Denver have all won the SB within the last 20 years without a real QB.

Once for each team

 

[Simpelton]

Going with "probably." I have my doubts a team will break down the door for Jimmy G but if they do I certain'y wouldn't expect BB to make a stand on principle.

 

[farn]

Once for each team

Once more than they have had in recent years (or the last 50) & you don't think CLE would love to win "just once" ? And we are spoiled - most teams "only win once" per generation.

Maybe Jimmy IS the answer - and I am hoping CLE actually believes he is. Cause I want Jimmy traded for lotsa picks.

I am just happy to be "on the BB train" & hope that next stop is SIXTHWINVILLE
(Also, you are giving Flacco quite a bit of credit - maybe BAL did it twice...)

 

[Simpelton]

Once for each team

Honest question here: how common do you think winning the freaking Superbowl even once is for most teams?

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

No, franchising JG next season and keeping him would be ludicrous, and so unPatriot-like that it boggles the imagination. Even if they intend to fanchise him tempararily with the idea trade him early in FA, would be a detriment. It would kill any chance to participate in 2018 FA fully while he's on the team.
Finally regardless his mark will have shrunk to a minimum because every team will know that the Pats will eventually have to let him go and they can compete for him for nothing. The only advantage of a trade at that point is to avoid the competition.
N farn, the ONLY reason to keep JG on the roster for 2017 is that you don't expect Brady to be here in 2018. Otherwise it makes no sense. BB has gone most of his 18 years coaching the Pats with no great back up QB's Including one year with a rookie UDFA being our primary back up (Bryan Hoyer). So he doesn't NEED to have someone as good as JG as the back up,

BB doesn't throw away assets. If he trades JG he can get a package of 2-3 draft picks over the next 2 years for an asset that likely will have no effect on the field this season/ How can he just let that opportunity go. Again the only reason he won't is because he's intent on keeping JG after the 2017 season as his starting QB.

Not so.
You keep saying this but a very good reason for NOT trading JAG now is if the Patriots do not have any decent trade offers. I do not believe they have been offered a #1 pick. If so, it's worth keeping a quality backup QB for insurance when your team is well staffed for a SB repeat.

 

[Simpelton]

(Also, you are giving Flacco quite a bit of credit - maybe BAL did it twice...)

Flacco's a lot like Bledsoe was. Very very talented, when he's good he's fantastic, but needs some help on his off days and there's some exploitable holes in his game that will stop him from ever being a consistent top performer. You can get there with a guy like Flacco/Bledsoe, but you'll need other things to be going right in order to actually win.

 

[Simpelton]

Not so.
You keep saying this but a very good reason for NOT trading JAG now is if the Patriots do not have any decent trade offers. I do not believe they have been offered a #1 pick. If so, it's worth keeping a quality backup QB for insurance when your team is well staffed for a SB repeat.

I think they don't need insurance this year and they know it. I too think that the offers reported in the media are exaggerated or incorrect and in either case, are not on the table now.

 

[moosekill]

Not so.
You keep saying this but a very good reason for NOT trading JAG now is if the Patriots do not have any decent trade offers. I do not believe they have been offered a #1 pick. If so, it's worth keeping a quality backup QB for insurance when your team is well staffed for a SB repeat.

This is right! We don't know what they have been offered.

 

[nabwong]

One reason not to trade Jimmy would be to not strengthen the opponent. I mean, if they're trading him to the Browns, then sure. But if the only offers they get are from the Texans and Denver, then the value of the picks we get is offset by the immediate increase in competition. We'd be handicapping ourselves if we trade Jimmy to a contender.

 

[Ross12]

Wouldn't be surprised if Cleveland calls tonight right before the draft and says "OK, fine, we will give you #12 for real", and Bill says "toss in a 2nd and you have a deal" and they say "FINE"

 

[scott99]

I think Trubisky goes number 1 to cleveland.

I'm hearing rumors that this is indeed a huge possibility.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

I think Trubisky goes number 1 to cleveland.

 

[The Gr8est]

If I'm the Browns i trade #1 for JG

There was a report yesterday that the Browns were considering Trubisky at #1 overall.

That HAS to be a smoke screen and Cleveland is trying to trade.

If not, then it would be about as stupid a move as a team could make, and maybe only the Rats could be more stupid.

 

[Bradyking12]

Honest question here: how common do you think winning the freaking Superbowl even once is for most teams?

Your talking to a Patriots fan

 

[Joey007]

Yes, but I do think we will trade for Ryan Mallet, then flip him for the number one overall pick.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I heard a few Football minds who I respect say that Trubisky is not ready for prime time why would you take a Prospect like that #1 especially knowing your franchise QB history???

It's the browns