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31-1 approval. Kraft was a yes. Dolphins voted no.

Going to take some getting used to.
 
A former colleague, who was/is a passionate Pats supporter, has gone to numerous stadiums around the country. She always reiterated that the only time she was "scared" was when she n her husband went to Oakland Collusium
 
The big bad Raiders move to sin city. Makes enough sense, I guess.
 
So they're going to stay in Oakland until maybe even 2019? o_O
 
When I was living in San Francisco I used to come back from school walking all over the Tenderloin during the night crossing with all those zombies but I never went to Oakland, that was how bad people used to talk about Oakland.
 
Golden Knights will fail but the Raiders with their already established fanbase should work.
 
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One more reason to go to Vegas. Not that I needed anther one
 
I've lived in the Bay Area for almost 10 years. I traveled to San Diego to watch the Pats but wouldn't even consider taking a 45 minute drive to Oakland. Bad, mean fans and gang members galore. Not a safe place for a family or a fan of another team.
 
I would love to see one of these cities who lost a team do something to screw 'em on the way out. For example, wait for a big Raiders home game then announce at the last minute the stadium is "closed due to safety concerns" or something like that....
 
There is so much wrong with this move I can't begin to start, but it is safe to say that the WWE-ification of the NFL continues on pace.

I acknowledge that the stadium situation in Oakland was not good, but neither was the one in Foxboro before the Krafts bought the team and cleaned out the element that existed that made it an embarassment to the league. The things that made Oakland unsafe was an OWNERSHIP problem. They didn't have the will to clean up the area and make it family and fan friendly.

Face it, Oakland is leaving because they just got a gift 3/4's of a BILLION dollars that I just read could expand to another $200,000 in state money. That's a billion dollar boondoggle to the Davis Family that the Nevada taxpayers have donated. Clearly the state doesn't need the money for schools, health care, or infrastructure. :rolleyes: The irony will be that they will build a stadium that will be filled just 8 times a year mostly by people who don't live in Nevada. Yeah, THAT sounds like a sound investment.

Then there is the gambling issue. Folks THIS is where all the lines people use to bet BILLIONS of dollars every week are made. Now thwre will be 53 players and dozens of coaches, personnel and medical staff, who will be under costant and immediate pressure to disclose information. Think about it. Even if a player is in a casual conversation in a bar, and the wrong person hears him talk about someing he saw on film about another player, or a player on his team can be damaging to the fairness of the line. It doesn't need to be something overt, like a player in debt to a casino. It can be as simple as that, BECAUSE they are so close the real action.

Make no mistake about it. The NFL is in the gaming business. Between tihis and their investments in game day FF, there is no going back. Any further actions by the NFL to fight sports betting in other states won't be because any higher moral principles. It will be strictly because they will be trying to limit the competition.

So sure it will be more fun to go to a Pats/Raiders game in Vegas, than in Oakland. Sure it will be a better stadium to play in. But the NFL, if it realy had any "integrity", wouldn't be in Las Vegas. The ONLY reason there isn't a new Stadium in Oakland is because the NFL didn't want to front Davis the money out of their OWN pockets, and Davis wouldn't sell the team to someone who could. Why would they when they can get the project financed for free. :rolleyes: AND get a check for over $12,000,000 just for voting yes.

In some ways I am almost looking forward to when this Golden era ends, just so I can completely divorce myself from this stinking corrupt carcass of a league. I'm at the stage now where the only redeaming quality of this league is THIS franchise and the way it's run. And yet even as I say these words, Bob Kraft is one of the 31 owners who voted their pocketbooks over any principles of loyalty, tradition, and morality. I look at the long term vision of professional football and all I see is Rollerball.
 
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One more reason to go to Vegas. Not that I needed anther one
Don't people tend to go to Vegas for Vegas stuff and not sports games? I think Golden Knights will fail hard because of this. Not convinced people will want to go to a hockey game out there. Raiders already have a dedicated fanbase so it outta work.
 
How long before.....Leaving Las Vegas?
 
Can't wait to take a road trip to Las Vegas. Please let it be a Monday night game too so we can gamble all day Sunday then go to the game Monday.
 
While I don't really care about the Raiders one way or another, I always feel bad for local fanbases when teams relocate. It's got to be weird to no longer call your team the hometown team.
 
Been to Vegas 4 times in the last two years ( twice for business and twice for March Madness- highly recommended). On every occasion, there were more Raiders caps/shirts/memorabilia than I have ever seen in a city without a team. There were plenty of supporters already and I think it will do well...but I put the over/under at five years before some team employee or player gets busted for gambling related issue..
It is inevitable in a city where you can't go to dinner and not be surrounded by gambling.......... but they will fill that stadium for the NFL and I'm sure a few bowl games.......
 
Seriously? Why Vegas?

It's a desert. It gets chilly there after September. It has a lousy airport. There's not much to do there except drink and gamble. In sum, it's just a sh*thole with a strip of casinos full of dumb tourists and people going to conventions and really not a fun place to visit in the cold winter months when football happens.

San Diego was an awesome place to visit for Patriots games. The NFL takes away that and gives me suck *** Las Vegas! :mad:
 
Been to Vegas 4 times in the last two years ( twice for business and twice for March Madness- highly recommended). On every occasion, there were more Raiders caps/shirts/memorabilia than I have ever seen in a city without a team. There were plenty of supporters already and I think it will do well...but I put the over/under at five years before some team employee or player gets busted for gambling related issue..
It is inevitable in a city where you can't go to dinner and not be surrounded by gambling.......... but they will fill that stadium for the NFL and I'm sure a few bowl games.......

Hopefully, they do something about that airport with the increase in revenue. Nothing like having to wait in line for a shuttle to the off site rental car facility after a 6 hour flight.
 
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