More rationalizing and deflecting.
And you cannot confidently claim there is one unequivocal murderer or rapist in this league. You're trying hard to bring one (1) lone guy like Vick into this for "dog fighting", which isn't a comparable situation whatsoever (served jail time, long suspension). Then Roethlisberger, like it or not, is not an unequivocal "rapist" either. His first incident seemed especially bogus.
Like it or not, the video of Mixon makes a huge difference. It's not just "alleged" or clouded in hearsay or unsubstantiated claims like many others are. It's on video, we KNOW it happened. We SAW it happen.
Ray Rice? Gone. Josh Brown? Gone. Greg Hardy? Gone & won't be back, after the Cowboys embarrassed themselves with that signing. Why should a team even bother bringing Mixon into the league? Especially now that the league has since taken multiple anti-domestic violence stances with sponsored commercials & all.
You know very well this isn't a matter of his "right to employment" at all. It's purely moral.
I can't believe I have to lay this out for you, but guys in the league with "character concerns" (whether it be Jamie Collins, Dominique Easley or Randy Moss at one point) or someone who's been arrested for a victimless crime like Floyd, aren't remotely comparable.
"I can't believe I have to lay this out for you . . ."
It's called differing opinions. I also don't expect football players to be saints. I have an extremely strict moral code for my personal life, but I certainly don't impose that on others who might not share my beliefs. Otherwise I'd fire most people on this team, other than Matthew Slater, who is a fine man and someone I respect immensely.
How is Vick's situation not comparable? You do know that Mixon was sentenced, right? He served 100 hours of community service and still goes to counseling. He was also suspended from the team for a year. That's pretty similar. The difference is that Vick was part of something premeditated, and he persisted over time in breaking numerous laws as well as abusing animals, whereas Mixon got angry and punched back to an absurdly disproportionate degree when someone hit him. I'm not even remotely defending what he did -- it was awful judgement and he definitely deserved to be punished. Why are you arguing as though I'm excusing his actions? But he paid for his crimes, so why should he be further punished?
Okay, let's throw out the murders and rape and everything else that's not on video. There are still numerous players who have been jailed or at least convicted of crimes. That's inarguable, so I'm not even sure why you are mentioning that Vick is unique. It's not deflecting to discuss similar situations. I don't condone any part of what they did, but there are players on every single team who have questionable pasts. If they still have a chance at playing in the league, then I don't see why Mixon can't, either. What makes the NFL special, or some unique defender of morality? Should Mixon have the right to work at McDonald's? Or would you prefer that he not do anything at all? Where do you draw the line?
You mentioned the video, so I'll ask: how does seeing something on video make it worse than simply knowing it happened? If you know what occurred, but don't take exception to it unless there's a video, isn't that hypocritical? It seems like considerable cognitive dissonance. And if the league really cared about violence, then why is Tyreek Hill allowed to play? I would be pretty upset if the Patriots brought him in, to be honest; what he did is really terrible. That said, I'm not interested in taking away anyone's income. The Chiefs decided to pay him, so good for him. I hope he and his family have worked through the horrendous problems they face.
Oh, and I don't believe for a moment that the league actually takes a tough stance against domestic violence. The NFL probably shouldn't even be involved in legal matters, but since they do interfere, then they should be more consistent about it.
Let's talk about Randy Moss:
After originally signing a letter of intent to play college football with Notre Dame in 1995, Moss took part in a racially charged fight at his high school that left one person hospitalized.
[13] On March 23, 1995, Moss had backed a friend in a hallway fight against a white student who had allegedly used racist comments towards Randy's friend.
[12] Moss was initially charged with a felony for kicking the student, but it was later reduced to a misdemeanor. On August 1, 1995, Moss pleaded guilty to two counts of misdemeanor
battery and was sentenced to 30 days behind bars at the South Central Regional Jail in Charleston, West Virginia. He served 3 days in jail starting that night and would be required to serve the remaining 27 days within the following 18 months, after he completed his freshman year in college.
[14] Moss was expelled from DuPont and completed his education at Cabell Alternative School.
[13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Moss#cite_note-blessing_curse-13
So, he hospitalized someone in a fight when he was 18. Sound familiar? How can you claim that it's not comparable? Did you cheer for him when he was here? If so, then why would you oppose Mixon ever getting a chance?
"You know very well this isn't a matter of his "right to employment" at all. It's purely moral."
Purely moral? This from a guy who regularly swears at our own players, and calls them "putrid" or "garbage"? I find that morally reprehensible on multiple levels. First of all, I don't approve of (or use) profanity. Also, what gives you the right to degrade another human being, just because they make a mistake in a game that you watch for entertainment? You're supposed to be a fan of this team, not someone who tears them down. Your sense of morality is pretty crazy, imo.
But beyond our personal disagreement on right and wrong, I'm not sure why you insist that I "know very well" that it's not about his right to employment, when that's exactly how I feel about it. There's nothing sacred about the NFL. They aren't moral gatekeepers. So let the kid play. He's talented. He should get a shot at using his skills to earn a living. Isn't that what's so great about America? Second chances?
Official Game Day Thread- Week 14 Ravens @ Pats
Official Game Day Thread- Week 14 Ravens @ Pats
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Floyd's crime was victimless, you say, so therefore he gets a second chance. Magnanimous of you, but it still seems like a double standard. For the record, I'm glad Floyd is here, from a football perspective; but from a life perspective, I think he should be checked into rehab. I sincerely hope he gets his life together. But I should point out that he hasn't even been prosecuted or charged yet. He has a pending legal case. Mixon's already concluded the legal case. He is still dealing with the civil suit, but he has had his day in court, and he pleaded guilty and has paid for his crime. That's why we have a rule of law. Holding something against someone after the conclusion of the matter seems pretty uncharitable.
You're free to have your own opinion, but I don't really appreciate you acting like we're a bunch of morons for not agreeing with you. So it goes.
Rodney disagrees with BB claiming Floyd
Rodney disagrees with BB claiming Floyd
