Will Gregorys suspension affect Floyd's?

[Big Bucks]

I don't care how long anymore.. he will be fresh for the playoffs!

 

[supafly]

Cowboys d line was suppose to be a joke but they all have been sneaky good firing off the ball and getting to the QB.
Whoever they field 3rd 4th string doesnt matter they all play well.

Yes Chris, I'd rather have a more dependable DE like Irving (3 sacks, but good consistent pressure) than an immature malcontent with a higher upside, like Gregory.

 

[50-yard-line]

Can you elaborate upon your last sentence/thought?

What, specifically do you mean by "their DL had gone off the charts in the last few weeks?"

Last couple of games I've watched them, they look like a different team on D - getting pressure with 4 constantly.

 

[Love The Drake]

Yes Chris, I'd rather have a more dependable DE like Irving (3 sacks, but good consistent pressure) than an immature malcontent with a higher upside, like Gregory.

Thats what im saying kid came from Tampas practice squad my wife is a Dallas fan So ive seen my good share of Cowboys games Irving has been playing like Akeem Hicks was for us last year he has the long body and length hes been a good player for them.

 

[supafly]

Last couple of games I've watched them, they look like a different team on D - getting pressure with 4 constantly.

I think it's purely coincidental, particularly since they rested some key front 7 guys in the last game. To take it one step further, DeMarcus Lawrence has been absent with a back injury lately.

Let's not forget that DAL has been consistently tougher on D than many realize. They finished with the 5th ranked scoring defense, the 1st ranked rush defense, and an 17/27 TD-INT ratio on that side of the ball.

We'll see if they're for real or not (I'm not really sure what to expect, myself), but there have been some role players in the front 7 who have stepped up quite nicely.

 

[supafly]

Thats what im saying kid came from Tampas practice squad my wife is a Dallas fan So ive seen my good share of Cowboys games Irving has been playing like Akeem Hicks was for us last year he has the long body and length hes been a good player for them.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. My wife is a DAL fan, so I've been watching them every week too. With guys like Mayowa (6), Collins (5), Irving (4), and the two Crawfords (Jack and Tyrone), they had actual role players step up in a very "un-Dallas like" fashion this year, at least in regards to the front seven.

I definitely agree with the Hicks comparison in both stature and snap totals. You're spot on there, man.

 

[JMC00]

WHAT???? No. Do you even know anything about the Gregory situation?

Not even the same thing.

Gregory was a complete idiot. Failed a test in Feb and then failed another test in July and then skipped a league mandated test. That's 3 failed tests in less than a calendar year..

That's why he's gone for another year. Idiot couldn't keep off the drugs to pass a couple of tests. He's another Josh Gordon.

 

[Love The Drake]

WHAT???? No. Do you even know anything about the Gregory situation?

Not even the same thing.

Gregory was a complete idiot. Failed a test in Feb and then failed another test in July and then skipped a league mandated test. That's 3 failed tests in less than a calendar year..

That's why he's gone for another year. Idiot couldn't keep off the drugs to pass a couple of tests. He's another Josh Gordon.

My fear is they use College against him talk about how he was asleep drunk at the wheel and hit him with multiple suspensions for both.
Its Goodell the man who suspended Brady because deflategate got away from him and he had to look like he had control the whole time so he suspends Brady for footballs shrinking in the cold.
Anything is on the table with this dictator running our great sport off a cliff.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

The commish can do whatever he wants. It is now permanently ingrained in law thanks to the US Court of Appeals Second Circuit.

That's overstating things. Goodell got to do whatever he wanted in the Brady case because (among other things) the CA2 panel wasn't convinced that the stuff Brady was accused of was covered by specific CBA language to the contrary, thus allowing Goodell to invoke Article 46 and do what he wanted.

By contrast (at least as I understand it), the procedures and punishments around substance abuse are an explicitly bargained for and written into the CBA in no uncertain terms.

I'll put down $100 that no court will nullify the clear, explicit provisions of the CBA around substance abuse and allow Goodell to Article 46 it.

 

[supafly]

That's overstating things. Goodell got to do whatever he wanted in the Brady case because (among other things) the CA2 panel wasn't convinced that the stuff Brady was accused of was covered by specific CBA language to the contrary, thus allowing Goodell to invoke Article 46 and do what he wanted.

By contrast (at least as I understand it), the procedures and punishments around substance abuse are an explicitly bargained for and written into the CBA in no uncertain terms.

I'll put down $100 that no court will nullify the clear, explicit provisions of the CBA around substance abuse and allow Goodell to Article 46 it.

I was wondering the same thing, although I couldn't possibly attempt to break it down as well as you do. I don't think there's nearly enough gray area to this as some are suggesting. I'm going to assume 2 games, but I don't know what the specific terms are.

The bottom line is that it's a first time DUI, so unless there are some specifics in the language that allow for harsher punishment (if so, add another game), the fact that he blew high and fell asleep at the wheel mean absolutely nothing. That's pretty standard DUI stuff, right there.

 

[supafly]

My fear is they use College against him talk about how he was asleep drunk at the wheel and hit him with multiple suspensions for both.

I understand the concerns, but there's nothing that can be done about his DUI back at Notre Dame, at least in terms of the NFL's justice system, anyway. They will have to consider this his first offense in the league, as it rightfully is.

That would be based on the idea that we have all of the details and that he doesn't have a previous offense, of course.

 

[The Brandon Five]

That's overstating things. Goodell got to do whatever he wanted in the Brady case because (among other things) the CA2 panel wasn't convinced that the stuff Brady was accused of was covered by specific CBA language to the contrary, thus allowing Goodell to invoke Article 46 and do what he wanted.

By contrast (at least as I understand it), the procedures and punishments around substance abuse are an explicitly bargained for and written into the CBA in no uncertain terms.

I'll put down $100 that no court will nullify the clear, explicit provisions of the CBA around substance abuse and allow Goodell to Article 46 it.

Ball inflation is a minor equipment issue.

 

[supafly]

Ball inflation is a minor equipment issue.

And even that only saw a total of a 4 game suspension, and that was for a (supposed--roll eyes) two-time, repeat offender who (supposedly--roll eyes) cheated in a sinister manner.

What kind of punishment do you think Michael Floyd is going to get? You think he's going to get the same amount of games as Brady? I'm just asking, so we have a point of reference to start at. I'm pretty sure that we're looking at a couple/few games.

 

[patman52]

He will get the 4 games allowed to the CBA rules. As other posters noted this is not a interpretation by Roger. The question is how much will bill Give him for 12 games next year.
My guess is 2 years and 8 mill and playing time incentives that could double that.

 

[Big Bucks]

people say that cannabis isn't addictive, I say otherwise. I honestly think that Gregory like Gordan and like Floyd have an illness that stops them acting as normal people when they are told to stop something. IMO its time that drugs like cannabis is treated in the same way aa Alcohol and different in terms of performance enhancing steroid abuse which is in terms of rules the same punishment. An illness should not be treated by punishment.. as soon as the NFL and sports in general realise the better.

 

[The Brandon Five]

And even that only saw a total of a 4 game suspension, and that was for a (supposed--roll eyes) two-time, repeat offender who (supposedly--roll eyes) cheated in a sinister manner.

What kind of punishment do you think Michael Floyd is going to get? You think he's going to get the same amount of games as Brady? I'm just asking, so we have a point of reference to start at. I'm pretty sure that we're looking at a couple/few games.

But according to the rule book there are no suspensions for equipment violations.

 

[The Scrizz]

Yes, but remember this is Patriots we're talkin about. goodell* throws rule book out when comes to us so I wouldn't put anything past him & *nfl* coming up with some bogus hidden agenda.

People keep saying this but he isn't an anybody next year until he signs. The question is will the suspension come before or after? Knowing Herr Goodell he'll probably suspend him before FA to tank his value.

 

[The Brandon Five]

People keep saying this but he isn't an anybody next year until he signs. The question is will the suspension come before or after? Knowing Herr Goodell he'll probably suspend him before FA to tank his value.

No that would potentially help us. He would make sure that we had to bid for his services without the certainty of a suspension lowering the price.

 

[The Scrizz]

No that would potentially help us. He would make sure that we had to bid for his services without the certainty of a suspension lowering the price.

Good point but the rest of the league has the option to bid as well. My concern is jail time as well.

 

[PatsFan2]

He will get the 4 games allowed to the CBA rules. As other posters noted this is not a interpretation by Roger. The question is how much will bill Give him for 12 games next year.
My guess is 2 years and 8 mill and playing time incentives that could double that.

2 years wishful thinking I say one year prove it win win for the Patriots either way.