A number of great coaches are Myers-Briggs INTJ

[jimnance]

[QUOTE="Elijah, post: 4883341, member: 20125"

Since we're all saying our types: INFJ[/QUOTE]

Me: MFSOB

 

[Urgent]

There are only two types of people in the world.
Those who deny Myers-Briggs.
And the other 15 personality types.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

I think the idea of an introvert seeking out a position where they seek to speak in front of 50+ people regularly sounds like the definition of not an introvert.

 

[Tony2046]

That was very ENFP-A of you.

 

[rookBoston]

INTP in the house. Very regularly I find myself deeply empathizing with BB and his approach to managing an NFL franchise. The guy is a thinker.

 

[BTTA]

I've been certified in MBTI for 25 years. It is extremely useful, but you get out of it what you put into it. The research is ongoing and led by dedicated, highly qualified people.

It requires self reflection and some time to percolate, which are in short supply these days. And, an understanding that life is rarely black and white about anything.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Meyers-Briggs is pseudoscience, no doubt. But there's definitely a lot to think about in relation to it. I think INTJ makes a lot of sense for both coaches and GMs.

Generally, people who aren't "N" types are completely unwilling to adapt or accept new information. These are the people who worship tradition as time leaves them behind--Jeff Fisher.

Obviously, you want to be a Thinker rather than a Feeler as a coach. J vs P is a matter of organization, and introverts probably have more time to spend honing their craft, so the other parts of it check out as well.

It's not like astrology where you can read any result and figure how it applies to you. It can certainly work that way if you approach it stupidly without understanding the meaning of each trait, but otherwise, it's a cool way of categorizing the way people think, even if it's not scientfic.

Since we're all saying our types: INFJ

I've taken the damn thing so many times I can't count. I usually come out INTJ, but have come out INFJ and INF...S? Is Sensing one of the choices where the "Judging" in "J" goes?

A lot of questions about whether you end up in the kitchen at parties, that sort of thing... Feh. I don't want to go to the goddam party in the first place. You're asking a guy who's in his 50s and is barely gregarious enough to qualify as a shut-in where he wants to be in a party... anyway.

Insofar as the personality inventory makes sense... well, it would make a lot of sense for an INTJ to be a good Belichick-style coach. A "player's coach" would probably be an "E"... that happy but not so often successful group beloved by players because he feel like he is one of them and understands their challenges in getting the job done... I also suppose we could say the "Feeling" **** McPhereson displayed some personality inventory tendencies when he went around hugging every member of a losing team (and those guys were probably like "Stranger Danger! Bad Touch! Get this guy off me!")

So I can agree with the premise but want to reserve my right to say that Meyers Briggs is far more limited in its applications than personnel departments everywhere say.

 

[jah]

I've taken the damn thing so many times I can't count. I usually come out INTJ, but have come out INFJ and INF...S? Is Sensing one of the choices where the "Judging" in "J" goes?

A lot of questions about whether you end up in the kitchen at parties, that sort of thing... Feh. I don't want to go to the goddam party in the first place. You're asking a guy who's in his 50s and is barely gregarious enough to qualify as a shut-in where he wants to be in a party... anyway.

Insofar as the personality inventory makes sense... well, it would make a lot of sense for an INTJ to be a good Belichick-style coach. A "player's coach" would probably be an "E"... that happy but not so often successful group beloved by players because he feel like he is one of them and understands their challenges in getting the job done... I also suppose we could say the "Feeling" **** McPhereson displayed some personality inventory tendencies when he went around hugging every member of a losing team (and those guys were probably like "Stranger Danger! Bad Touch! Get this guy off me!")

So I can agree with the premise but want to reserve my right to say that Meyers Briggs is far more limited in its applications than personnel departments everywhere say.

You pointed out the reason why I consider the personality TESTS for the types to be useless. Too many questions I just don't want to answer or don't know how to interpret. I think the real way of knowing your type is to just learn about them and think critically about what applies to you. I can pretty accurately guess the types of my friends and family, so there's gotta be something there.

You're definitely right about the players coach thing. At worst, you get Rexy boy. At best you get Pete Carroll (who was a consensus NFL joke until 2012).

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

"It describes a person who tends to turn inward mentally. Introverts sometimes avoid large groups of people, feeling more energized by time alone."

That's the definition of an introvert. So someone who seeks to be in, and speak in from of large groups of people as a way of life are pretty much by definition not introverts unless you twist the definition of introvert so far that it means the same as extroverts.

 

[BTTA]

"It describes a person who tends to turn inward mentally. Introverts sometimes avoid large groups of people, feeling more energized by time alone."

That's the definition of an introvert. So someone who seeks to be in, and speak in from of large groups of people as a way of life are pretty much by definition not introverts unless you twist the definition of introvert so far that it means the same as extroverts.

The latest research is that roughly half of the population are introverts, half extroverts. This has shifted over time which has left me very curious about what's going on.

The true definition isn't about comfort level with crowds. It is about where you prefer to get, and spend, your energy. Internal (reflection, quiet, etc.) = introverts; external (interacting with people) = extroverts. And it is about preference, not ability. And, all of us have some of both in us; it is about the ratio/balance, and about where it shows up.

There's a newer, "Step 2" MBTI which deconstructs the four preferences to make them more understandable. This is a simple articulation of it. You can see where the tendencies of the INTJ would come into play as an NFL coach (and where they might get them into trouble, as with our coach and the press, and with the political requirements of the job.)

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Close but not the same thing

(Where you get your energy vs. other "definitions")

Thanks for putting the right definition out there (The one I'm familiar with - where you get/expend your energy).

Along with my other indicators, I've never scored "E" but always score in the "slightly more introverted" chunk of the bar chart (for what it's worth.) Like 60-40 "I".

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Then there's the personality type that draws his energy by trying to remove energy from the most successful by way of unproven allegation, and transfer that success, in his own delusional construct, to himself. This personality type is called INFL.