More proof why Bill Belichick is one of the NFL's top GMs/Execs

[mgteich]

He can't win w/o Brady. Well OK he can but at best he would be .500. OK well at best he'd be 3-1.

You ignore the Year of Cassel.

 

[Tony2046]

My edit....

Like yours better but mine at least rhymed.

 

[oldrover]

Bill Belichick?


He's a system GM.

 

[mgteich]

Then they quickly shifted the goalposts with "Brady must be a system QB".

Belichick and Brady have had a fine system, as Walsh and Montana did.

 

[JJC]

Left out the best example - Cleveland for this year alone!

 

[Tony2046]

Belichick and Brady have had a fine system, as Walsh and Montana did.

But listening to the mediots that somehow diminishes their success.

 

[Double TE]

You ignore the Year of Cassel.

Pats missed the playoffs that year and he ended up trading Cassel, who was our future franchise QB for a lowly 2nd round pick and then wasted that pick on some stiff named Patrick Chung. Obviously even then Bill did not have a clue as to how to build a team.

 

[Patjew]

Inviting some Xs here but WTF...

BB is the GOAT coach.

He's a good GM, but not GOAT status. He's probably the GOAT in terms of knowing when to move/cut a player. Not the GOAT GM otherwise.

IMO, having the GOAT QB, a player that has been extremely flexible with his contract, has made his life (as a GM in particular) infinitely easier.

BB and TFB are incredibly lucky to have coincided with each other.

And we as fans are even luckier.

 

[Patriot Missile]

To an average Joe, I can see that as coming off as Bill Belichick is Ebenezer Scrooge when it comes to paying starters.

Fails to mention Patriots spend to the cap and spread it around to the 53. I might be wrong but I believe they also have one of the highest paid practice squads in the game.

 

[The Gr8est]

It just occurred to me that if BB and TFB played for the Giants or Rats rather than the Pats, they would be recognized as the Gr8est HC/QB duo to ever play the game.

They already are, but they would likely have won a couple of more Superbowls, and there would NO cheating scandals associated with them, because **** Goodell, Mara, Johnson, and the entire corrupt NFL* !!!!

 

[AtomicDawg]

The guy in Baltimore whose name escape me is universally acknowledged as being the best GM in the league

His name is Ozzie Newsome and for some reason the fact that he learned the nuances of talent evaluations from BB and Ernie Accorsi is never acknowledged nationally. They both have given each other equal credit over the years, but his side of it is ignored.

"The preparation, I think it came when I was asked to stay within the organization," Newsome said. "I just asked Mr. Modell. I wanted to stay on the football side, and he allowed that, but the preparation came from being around Ernie Accorsi and Bill Belichick and being able to listen to those guys for the first two or three years and to gain as much education as I could get.

So as much as Harbaby complains and whines about what the Pats do, his very success as a coach is both indirectly AND directly because, parly, of BB and the influence he had on Newsome.

 

[farn]

I absolutely do not understand the "BB isn't a great GM" crowd. Those people would need only be the fans of another franchise for a year or two to see how great BB is.

The trades & picks are amazing. Anyone who suggests otherwise doesn't appreciate how much of a crap shoot the draft or player development/acquisition truly is.

 

[patfanken]

All this to say that Belichick is the best GM/coach since Walsh? Are there those who disagree?

And the key thing here is Walsh essentially only had to build his team once and then tweek it year to year. Bill has had to completely rebuild his roster about 3 times (aside from the QB) and done it in a much more difficult environment. Not to mention the head winds of spygate, deflategate, and rules changes.

 

[grux]

Inviting some Xs here but WTF...

BB is the GOAT coach.

He's a good GM, but not GOAT status. He's probably the GOAT in terms of knowing when to move/cut a player. Not the GOAT GM otherwise.

IMP, having the GOAT QB, a player that has been extremely flexible with his contract, has made his life (as a GM in particular) infinitely easier.

BB and TFB are incredibly lucky to have coincided with each other.

And we as fans are even luckier.

Just out of curiosity what GM's would you put ahead of BB?

 

[JarOfMayo51]

That would make the Patriots 30th in the NFL for spending on starters.

No other team manages the roster, works free agency and drafts better than the Patriots.

Financial stability, not overspending in FA, retaining key talent, and developing young players are all keys to success in NFL...and none one has done it as well or as long as Belichick has

For example...just compare our current record to the 3 other teams who made the Conference Finals

Patriots 12-2
Broncos 8-6
Panthers 6-8
Cardinals 5-8-1

In Bill We Trust

Just think of how angry some owners must be lol, not only do they hate the Pats for their continued success, but Kraft has had to spend less money than them for the best product/team hahaha

The Jets are obviously still not over Belichick resigning, just imagine of all the sleep they lose at night thinking about what could have been lol

 

[shmessy]

That would make the Patriots 30th in the NFL for spending on starters.

No other team manages the roster, works free agency and drafts better than the Patriots.

Financial stability, not overspending in FA, retaining key talent, and developing young players are all keys to success in NFL...and none one has done it as well or as long as Belichick has

For example...just compare our current record to the 3 other teams who made the Conference Finals

Patriots 12-2
Broncos 8-6
Panthers 6-8
Cardinals 5-8-1

In Bill We Trust

Your post needs to be sent to Felger.....about 30,000 times

 

[JarOfMayo51]

I think BB the GM is fortunate to have BB the coach and have TB12 the QB.

I think BB the coach is fortunate to have BB the GM.

They work great together. So glad they get along.

Lol now I'm just picturing Belichick with split personality disorder arguing with himself about a draft pick or something haha

 

[Patjew]

Just out of curiosity what GM's would you put ahead of BB?

Come on man, please don't ask me to back up anything I say!

 

[mgteich]

It just occurred to me that if BB and TFB played for the Giants or Rats rather than the Pats, they would be recognized as the Gr8est HC/QB duo to ever play the game.

They already are, but they would likely have won a couple of more Superbowls, and there would NO cheating scandals associated with them, because **** Goodell, Mara, Johnson, and the entire corrupt NFL* !!!!

I disagree. I believe that Kraft is part of the equation. Kraft has given Belichick the freedom that few owners would give him.

 

[mgteich]

And the key thing here is Walsh essentially only had to build his team once and then tweek it year to year. Bill has had to completely rebuild his roster about 3 times (aside from the QB) and done it in a much more difficult environment. Not to mention the head winds of spygate, deflategate, and rules changes.

I agree

IMHO, it's the cap and free agency that make it much more difficult today. Spy gate and deflategate are minor items. Bleichick and Brady haven't been great because of a few draft choice one way or the other.

Obviously, it's difficult to replenish your team in the cap era when you basically lose a top draft pick each year (picking at the bottom of the round).