Pats D still Number 2 in AFC points against

[TbSB5]

That's why you watch the whole game. 10 points that mattered 17 total. Kaepernick went 7/20 to end the game most of which were on the garbage time drive.

You just don't get it.

 

[Ring 6]

yeah I know the points aloud stat.. I am just not buying that they are a good D. I am saying they are 12-16th best.

I'd love to see you list of 11-15 better defenses and your reason why that even though they let up more points somehow they are better.

 

[Ring 6]

You just don't get it.

No you don't get it. They went out and played a game today and the results were excellent.

 

[deroc5050]

So you honestly believe that allowing more points is better defense. Really?

Ok tell me what the Pats do good on D? BTW the Pats can win the Super Bowl if they are just average on defense.

 

[Ring 6]

Ok tell me what the Pats do good on D? BTW the Pats can win the Super Bowl if they are just average on defense.

they keep points off the board.
That is the primary function of defense.

 

[deroc5050]

they keep points off the board.
That is the primary function of defense.

lol well you will probably be happy then because we play some pretty bad offences the rest of the way. Jets twice, Rams, Denver and the fins...

Don't be surprised if our defense gets blown up in the playoffs.

 

[Ring 6]

lol well you will probably be happy then because we play some pretty bad offences the rest of the way. Jets twice, Rams, Denver and the fins...

I will be happy because we don't allow points and win games and you won't?

I just don't get the idea that you have to be so negative that you want to consider another team that had played worse better than this one evidently to sooth your anger that they date ever allow a first down.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

You just don't get it.

We gave up 17 points today. 7 in garbage time. Yes, our defense has some issues, but I think some people believe the final score should be:

Ne Patriots: 50
Other team: 10 or less

If not, we suck!

 

[Ring 6]

We gave up 17 points today. 7 in garbage time. Yes, our defense has some issues, but I think some people believe the final score should be:

Ne Patriots: 50
Other team: 10 or less

If not, we suck!

Our defense has some issues. 32 defenses on the nfl have some issues. We have fewer than most.

 

[Jangles]

I'd love to see you list of 11-15 better defenses and your reason why that even though they let up more points somehow they are better.

lol now it's 11-15

Because naming 10 better wasn't hard

 

[deroc5050]

I will be happy because we don't allow points and win games and you won't?

I just don't get the idea that you have to be so negative that you want to consider another team that had played worse better than this one evidently to sooth your anger that they date ever allow a first down.

Ok I am done talking about this, I am not being negative I am just being rational. If we get blown up in the play offs because our defense cant get off the field, I won't be surprised.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

lol now it's 11-15

Because naming 10 better wasn't hard

The big bad Seattle defense gave up 18 to SF 49ers (more than us), 24 to Atlanta, 25 to NO Saints, 25 to Buffalo, 24 to us...

 

[Ring 6]

lol now it's 11-15

Because naming 10 better wasn't hard

You didn't name ten that were better.
He said average so that would mean there are 12-15 that allowed fewer points but he calls better.
Different conversation homie.

 

[Ring 6]

Ok I am done talking about this, I am not being negative I am just being rational. If we get blown up in the play offs because our defense cant get off the field, I won't be surprised.

No more likely that any other team.

 

[FCB02062]

Still can't believe they've only created 7 turnovers. The 2011 D was absolute schitt but was masked cuz they got a ton of turnovers and had a huge +/-....so maybe this is kind of a "blessing in disguise" in that they're winning games with a garbage defense even though they're not getting takeaways

 

[Ring 6]

Still can't believe they've only created 7 turnovers. The 2011 D was absolute schitt but was masked cuz they got a ton of turnovers and had a huge +/-....so maybe this is kind of a "blessing in disguise" in that they're winning games with a garbage defense even though they're not getting takeaways

Aside from the Seattle game what has the defense done that could possibly be called garbage?

 

[deroc5050]

No more likely that any other team.

We don't get turn overs, we dont put alot of pressure on the QB, Our secondary has been very shaky all year, Our run defense has been good. But even the run D has been suspect the last 2 games.

I hope the defense gets better but honestly the defense won't really be tested until we get into the play offs.

Our best defense is Tom Brady and company. And thats how we will win the Super Bowl.

 

[Ring 6]

We don't get turn overs, we dont put alot of pressure on the QB, Our secondary has been very shaky all year, Our run defense has been good. But even the run D has been suspect the last 2 games.

I hope the defense gets better but honestly the defense won't really be tested until we get into the play offs.

Our best defense is Tom Brady and company. And thats how we will win the Super Bowl.

You can take any defense and find flaws. But to say what you think the flaws are mean more than the result is just wrong.

Bye everyone wants to say this game doesn't count because sf sucks but their lowest point total all season was 16 and their second lowest was today. Every team on the schedule other than Seattle has scored fewer points against the patriots than most of their opponents.
Time and again this defense has limited offenses to less than they get against other opponents.
There are no style points. There are many ways to play defense. Every defense allows a number of plays every game. This defense has not let the ones they allow add up to as many points as other defenses do.

I would love more takeaways and I'm sure they will come. There are balls on the ground they haven't recovered. There are dropped picks. They are in position to make plays and they will come.

It's funny because when the patriots lead the league in takeaways the chicken littles on the board say that is why they are doomed because turnovers aren't consistent.
When they are down in that area now they can't win because they do t have takeaways.

 

[deroc5050]

You can take any defense and find flaws. But to say what you think the flaws are mean more than the result is just wrong.

Bye everyone wants to say this game doesn't count because sf sucks but their lowest point total all season was 16 and their second lowest was today. Every team on the schedule other than Seattle has scored fewer points against the patriots than most of their opponents.
Time and again this defense has limited offenses to less than they get against other opponents.
There are no style points. There are many ways to play defense. Every defense allows a number of plays every game. This defense has not let the ones they allow add up to as many points as other defenses do.

I would love more takeaways and I'm sure they will come. There are balls on the ground they haven't recovered. There are dropped picks. They are in position to make plays and they will come.

It's funny because when the patriots lead the league in takeaways the chicken littles on the board say that is why they are doomed because turnovers aren't consistent.
When they are down in that area now they can't win because they do t have takeaways.

You gotta go by what your eyes tell you, if your living off of turn overs but you really don't stop anyone then yeah, I would say its dangerous to count on turn overs because they are inconsistent.

Other than that I will just agree to disagree with you. I don't have a lot of confidence that the defense will win us any games in the playoffs. There Offense will have to win it.. and we have seen how that goes.

 

[Jangles]

You gotta go by what your eyes tell you, if your living off of turn overs but you really don't stop anyone then yeah, I would say its dangerous to count on turn overs because they are inconsistent.

Other than that I will just agree to disagree with you. I don't have a lot of confidence that the defense will win us any games in the playoffs. There Offense will have to win it.. and we have seen how that goes.

Yep

I want to be wrong, but how long has it been since Belichick the defensive guru put together a scary defense? Seattle did it, denver did it, hell even Minnesota did it and Minnesota hasn't done much right in a long time.

You call us chicken littles, we're just wondering when the genius is going to deliver a D you can look at as a strength