Atlanta Falcons can help our Patriots quite well tomorrow

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Since Atlanta is NFC, if Denver loses to them, they're still ahead of NE due to the Buffalo loss being in conference. So it's more like gaining a half game on them.


Of course, I'd still take it. LOL

Still huge because we face and can potentially beat Denver later this season. NE needs to go 13-3 this season to win home field at least.

 

[obgod3]

I would love to see the Falcons win, but it isn't going to happen....well it could

Paxton is probably just as good if not better than Trevor and there is no question that Paxton is either trade bait or the future of the Broncos, at least thats what folks think here in Denver.

Its unfortunately because the Broncos have a cake schedule other than maybe this game and the two game against the Raiders.

 

[aluminum seats]

Sure, but Carolina isn't even a top 10 defense this year while the Broncos are top 5 easily. It's apples to oranges.

The panthers have no pass rush this year and their secondary is literally full of jags

Fine. But the point was made that Atlanta only scored a lot of points because they played New Orleans. They haven't played New Orleans every week. They scored 48 against Carolina, 35 against Oakland, etc.

 

[Haley]

Fine. But the point was made that Atlanta only scored a lot of points because they played New Orleans. They haven't played New Orleans every week. They scored 48 against Carolina, 35 against Oakland, etc.

Oakland is dead last in defense. I figured I didn't have to detail that one.

Let me be more clear with my point. They look good on offense but they have not played a defense anywhere in the vicinity of Denver.

 

[Uptown]

Scored 48 against Carolina.[/QUOTE

....Carolina has 4 manikins playing in their secondary...

 

[I.M. Fletcher]

Who would you take between Devontae Freeman, David Johnson, and Le'veon Bell?

It's hard to separate the players from the teams. Each has the advantage of good qb play and dominant receivers, so their contribution is always tied to their surrounding cast.

Forced to choose, probably bell. Freeman is interesting though, and has room to grow.

 

[Kontradiction]

Julio Jones will be shut down. Who do the Falcons have on offense that can hurt Denver through the air once that happens? I rest my case.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I fully expect Denver to murder Atlanta. The Falcons haven't faced a good D yet, and their own defense is really, really bad. I think they're a good team, but nowhere near as good as their schedule has made them look so far. Denver's going to steamroll them in pretty much every phase of the game.

 

[Froob]

27-13 Denver. Talib get a late pick six and I throw my remote through my TV.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Who would you take between Devontae Freeman, David Johnson, and Le'veon Bell?

Yeah, Freeman's good but IMO he doesn't belong in the best-RB-in-the-NFL conversation. I have Bell as #1 and Johnson as #2 in the league, FWIW, while Freeman doesn't crack my top 5.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Can people please stop under rating how good Denver is at home. That place is a house of horrors.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Julio Jones will be shut down. Who do the Falcons have on offense that can hurt Denver through the air once that happens? I rest my case.

I'm sure Denver's secondary is laying awake tonight, terrified by the prospect of facing Jacob Tamme and Mohamed Sanu.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Who would you take between Devontae Freeman, David Johnson, and Le'veon Bell?

David Johnson by a mile

 

[BradyFTW!]

Fine. But the point was made that Atlanta only scored a lot of points because they played New Orleans. They haven't played New Orleans every week. They scored 48 against Carolina, 35 against Oakland, etc.

Through 4 weeks, the four teams the Falcons have played are #32, #31, #28 and #22 in points allowed per game. Obviously some of that can be explained as being because they played the Falcons , but it pretty strongly suggests that they've played a bunch of bad defenses. All four defenses have pretty consistently looked pretty bad when I've seen them. Carolina, in particular, just can't be compared to last year's defense. It wasn't just losing Norman - they also lost Harper, and Benwikere (just cut) and Short have both regressed a lot from last year. I think they'll rebound to the point of being pretty good so far this season, but so far this year their defense has looked consistently underwhelming.

That doesn't mean the Falcons' offense isn't good. Just means that it's a good offense doing what it's supposed to do against terrible defenses, rather than a great offense like the stats so far suggest. Until they prove they're more by performing against an upper-tier D, IMO the Falcons area very good offense and a terrible defense, which is a solid recipe for getting to 10 wins by smoking a bunch of a bad-to-mediocre teams and getting thrashed by top teams like Denver.

I hope the Falcons prove me wrong tomorrow by going into Denver and dropping 40 on the Broncos, but I'll be very surprised if it happens.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

People disagree for the most bizarre reasons here. I didn't even say Atlanta would win, I asked what you guys think. Did that user disagree with me asking you guys or we need Denver to lose a game?

 

[ausbacker]

Yeah, Freeman's good but IMO he doesn't belong in the best-RB-in-the-NFL conversation. I have Bell as #1 and Johnson as #2 in the league, FWIW, while Freeman doesn't crack my top 5.

It's not just Freeman but the 1-2 punch of Freeman and Coleman. Atlanta is running the 1-2 Carolina Williams-Stewart punch and this season, it's working very well. If I'm Atlanta, given Denver's struggles against the run, shorten the game, control the clock, and don't commit turnovers. Do that and you're in with a shot of beating Denver. That side, Denver, for one reason or another gets the rub of the luck green so conventional wisdom says tip Denver.

 

[BradyFTW!]

It's not just Freeman but the 1-2 punch of Freeman and Coleman. Atlanta is running the 1-2 Carolina Williams-Stewart punch and this season, it's working very well. If I'm Atlanta, given Denver's struggles against the run, shorten the game, control the clock, and don't commit turnovers. Do that and you're in with a shot of beating Denver. That side, Denver, for one reason or another gets the rub of the luck green so conventional wisdom says tip Denver.

Coleman likely won't play much in Denver. He was going back and forth all week on whether to play at all, since Denver's altitude is very dangerous to guys with sickle cell (last one I remember before this was Ryan Clark stopped playing in Denver, since doing so really messed with his health). He is going to play, but I'll be really surprised if he's on the field much.

Which is a shame for Atlanta, since it's pretty much them and Pittsburgh that are experimenting heavily with legit 2 RB (no FB) formations right now, and it's been pretty effective so far for both of them. I'm not as high on Coleman as most, but he's a credible threat at least.

 

[FourierSeries]

Both teams are frauds, but Denver has home field. They'll win.

 

[Tony2046]

People disagree for the most bizarre reasons here. I didn't even say Atlanta would win, I asked what you guys think. Did that user disagree with me asking you guys or we need Denver to lose a game?

When you offer up an incredibly provocative post you have to accept and expect some negative ratings.

 

[ausbacker]

Coleman likely won't play much in Denver. He was going back and forth all week on whether to play at all, since Denver's altitude is very dangerous to guys with sickle cell (last one I remember before this was Ryan Clark stopped playing in Denver, since doing so really messed with his health). He is going to play, but I'll be really surprised if he's on the field much.

Which is a shame for Atlanta, since it's pretty much them and Pittsburgh that are experimenting heavily with legit 2 RB (no FB) formations right now, and it's been pretty effective so far for both of them. I'm not as high on Coleman as most, but he's a credible threat at least.

FWIW, I also agree with you regarding Bell and Johnson, the one difference being I'm not sure who is 1 or 2.