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Jets Suck -- 2016 Edition (Official): Futility Confirmed

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I'm glad you realize you're the girl in this hypothetical situation.

Ha, damn it. Posted that as I was waking up. Then realized I made myself the girl there.

Was hoping it'd go unnoticed.
 
I've been looking up draft info on the Jets from Rounds 1 to 4 dating back to when Woody Johnson became the owner. There was one good draft among the first 6 of his tenure. The rest were misses. A few decent picks, but overall very bad in my opinion.

1) The 2000 Draft: 4 1st rounders.
DE Shaun Ellis (2x Probowl), OLB Jon Abraham (3x Probowl), QB Chad Pennington, TE Tony Becht.

Not much for the Jest fan to complain about regarding this draft. Outside of the tight end, they did well with this talent for a few years.

My Final Thought: Good


2) The 2001 Draft: 4 picks in the first 4 rounds.
WR Santana Moss, RB Lamont Jordan, OT Kareem McKenzie, DB Jamie Henderson

Of course, much better receivers like Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith, & Chad Johnson were passed over in favor of the man who shared the same last name as Randy, but not the same level of talent. Regardless, Moss was decent but became a ProBowler after leaving the Jest. McKenzie did nothing for the Jest but played a role in helping the Giants win those 2 SB's against the Pats, so... Damn him! The other 2 were wasted picks.

My Final Thought: Bad


3) The 2002 Draft: 4 picks in the first 4 rounds.
DE Bryan Thomas, S Jon McGraw, TE Chris Baker, DT Alan Harper

Recognize any of those names? .... me neither. Aaron Kampman, who was a Pro Bowler and rock on the Packers Defensive Line for about 5 years, was available in this draft, but fell to the 4th round while Thomas spent 10 years being a massive dissapointment for the Jest. Then, of course, there is Ed Reed, FS, future Hall Of Famer, right? Well fear not, the Jest got their guy Jon McGraw, he of 10 career interceptions, 3 with the Jest.

My Final Thought: LOL!!!


4) The 2003 Draft: 3 picks in the first 4 rounds
DT Dewayne Robertson, LB Victor Hobson, RB B.J. Askew

At this point Woody's Johnsons were making it clear that their draft strategy was going to set this organization back for years to come. Robertson wasn't awful, but he came in with a lot of hype and didn't pan out to be the super great player the Jest expected him to be. Also at this point, Jason Witten was available, as was Anquan Boldin. Could have been a big help to Chad Pennington at the time. So it's fitting that the Jets ended up selecting Victor Hobson, a linebacker who while probably overperformed as a Jet, was not a difference maker in any way shape or form. Also, the Jest drafted QB Brooks Bollinger in the 6th round as 3rd string backup to Pennington..

My Final Thought: Thumbs down


5) The 2004 Draft: 4 picks in the first 4 rounds
LB Jonathan Vilma, CB Derrick Strait, WR Jericho Cotchery, OT Adrian Jones


Jonathan Vilma was very succesful while and after playing with the Jest. But outside of that, this was a QB's draft, and the Jest weren't going to do much better than what was available to them after the first round. Also, this was the season Chad Pennington suffered his first rotator cuff injury after signing a 7 year contract before the season. A precursor of unfortunate events to come.

My Final Thought: They need a QB!


6) The 2005 Draft: No 1st Rounder, but 4 picks through the 4th round
K Mike Nugent, CB Justin Miller, DT Sione Pouha, S Kerry Rhodes

Herm Edward's last draft that he oversaw as coach of the Jest. Miller and Rhodes ended up making the Pro Bowl in 2006 together, so not all was lost here with the Jest. Of course, they flamed out just as quickly as they sparked. Pouha spent much of his Jest career injury riddled. And then there's the fact that the Jest used their first pick of this draft on a Placekicker.

My Final Thought: Just End The Suffering



I haven't got the stomach to go through all the Jest drafts up to now as I don't really want to dive too deep into the swamp of historical suckage the Jest has created for us all to see. I'm sure Mangini's collectively were the best ones, while Rex oversaw much of the disasters the Jest have been riddled with in recent years. But it's interesting to see the science behind the incompetence that is the New York Jest. They don't believe in drafting a great QB out of College and thus are in the same hell hole with that position that they're in today. And based on their draft strategies they don't believe in having a difference maker on offense whatsoever. They instead overdraft who they believe are defensive stalwarts, and outside of a lucky few, they all turn out to be average to decent at best. It's an ongoing systemic tide of futility that Woody Johnson has overseen as far back as his beginnings as an NFL owner.
 
Annnnnd here is what Rex is doing this week instead of game planning:



Ok, Rex isn't Belichick. No one is. BB really is one of the best of all time.

That aside, Rex is the man. Jets should've kept him. No knock on Bowles (he could turn out to be a great coach himself), but Rex rules.
 
Should've had it's own thread^^^^^^^

BOTOH, what kind of leadership message is that trying to convey!
 
Should've had it's own thread^^^^^^^

BOTOH, what kind of leadership message is that trying to convey!

Bah, I hate making threads on these forums, especially for something small like this.

I put it here because we don't have a Bills thread. But it is still mediocrity, and he was once a Jet, so I figure it is close enough. If a mod wants to move it elsewhere though, feel free.
 
I can easily see Miami losing to the Bengals, Hawks beating the Jets and us winning. We would be up 3 games in the division with the others reeling. We can clinch the division in November
 
"The Cleveland Browns were founded in 1945 and dominated the AAFC, compiling a 47–4–3 record in the league's four seasons and winning its championship every year. When the AAFC folded, the Browns joined the NFL and won a championship in their inaugural NFL season, as well as in the 1954, 1955, and 1964 seasons. From 1965 to 1995, they made the playoffs 14 times."

The Jets WISH they were the Cleveland Browns.

The Browns are ranked 2nd all time in titles won per season's played, with 8 titles in 67 years. Here is the top ten;

1 Green Bay Packers 13-95
2 Cleveland Browns 8-67
3 Baltimore Colts/Ravens 5-52
4 Chicago Bears 9-96
5 Dallas Cowboys 5-56
6 New York Giants 7-91
7 Pittsburgh Steelers 6-83
8 Boston/N.E. Patriots 4-56
9 San Fran. 49ers 5-70
10 Wash. Redskins 5-84
 
And the Jets still suck.
 
Ok, Rex isn't Belichick. No one is. BB really is one of the best of all time.

That aside, Rex is the man. Jets should've kept him. No knock on Bowles (he could turn out to be a great coach himself), but Rex rules.

Good God, man, just when I think you might be sane, you remind us that you're a J*ts fan and totally delusional.

Of course, if there were an Obnoxiousness Olympics, Rex would certainly be a medallist and so, if your idea of keeping the J*ts relevant is to talk smack or pull stupid media stunts, you might be right. And I'll grant you he coaches well against the Pats (the defense for the second game last year was very effective -- he was certainly inside Brady's head all night, even though the Pats won).

But seriously? Have you already forgotten the game the J*ts won this season. Buffalo were AWFUL. And you want to go back to that?
 
Good God, man, just when I think you might be sane, you remind us that you're a J*ts fan and totally delusional.

Of course, if there were an Obnoxiousness Olympics, Rex would certainly be a medallist and so, if your idea of keeping the J*ts relevant is to talk smack or pull stupid media stunts, you might be right. And I'll grant you he coaches well against the Pats (the defense for the second game last year was very effective -- he was certainly inside Brady's head all night, even though the Pats won).

But seriously? Have you already forgotten the game the J*ts won this season. Buffalo were AWFUL. And you want to go back to that?


Well, in rodent history, sometimes awful, relatively, wasn't that bad, when compared to horrendous, putrid, or abominable.

Baby steps.
 
Good God, man, just when I think you might be sane, you remind us that you're a J*ts fan and totally delusional.

Of course, if there were an Obnoxiousness Olympics, Rex would certainly be a medallist and so, if your idea of keeping the J*ts relevant is to talk smack or pull stupid media stunts, you might be right. And I'll grant you he coaches well against the Pats (the defense for the second game last year was very effective -- he was certainly inside Brady's head all night, even though the Pats won).

But seriously? Have you already forgotten the game the J*ts won this season. Buffalo were AWFUL. And you want to go back to that?

Ha, well we can't have you thinking I'm sane now.

I know Rex is different, and his bluster just makes it easier to attack him when he fails. I just love his heart and defensive coaching ability. Give him a good GM and offensive coordinator and he can play/coach with the best. Sometimes greatly exceeding expectations. While yes, also sometimes failing.
 
Well, in rodent history, sometimes awful, relatively, wasn't that bad, when compared to horrendous, putrid, or abominable.

Baby steps.

They went 46-50 over 6 years, finishing with a putrid 4-12 year. Anyone who wants to go back to that over the current guy, who at least seems to be a serious, competent professional, is ... well, a typical J*ts fan.
 
They went 46-50 over 6 years, finishing with a putrid 4-12 year. Anyone who wants to go back to that over the current guy, who at least seems to be a serious, competent professional, is ... well, a typical J*ts fan.

Most Jet fans (or any fans) are easily swayed by stats and media opinion.

Overall most Jet fans would make the same argument you just made.
 
The Browns are ranked 2nd all time in titles won per season's played, with 8 titles in 67 years. Here is the top ten;

1 Green Bay Packers 13-95
2 Cleveland Browns 8-67
3 Baltimore Colts/Ravens 5-52
4 Chicago Bears 9-96
5 Dallas Cowboys 5-56
6 New York Giants 7-91
7 Pittsburgh Steelers 6-83
8 Boston/N.E. Patriots 4-56
9 San Fran. 49ers 5-70
10 Wash. Redskins 5-84


#3. Colts/Ravens are not related.
 
The Jets have a better team this year.

Yeah, his team looked bad, but his teams have also looked great at times. I won't post a video, but I seem to remember one of his teams playing a game a while back in January up North and doing pretty well.

And then proceeded to get their **** pushed in by the Steelers the next game and has gone 26-38 since then. I hope Rex stays in this division forever.
 
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