NFL Free Agency Thread

[BradyFTW!]

Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter 1m1 minute ago


Jets are re-signing RB Bilal Powell, per source.

Smart move by them, would've liked for the Pats to get him.

 

[Froob]

Solder's contract makes him a relatively easy cut after this year, so if the Pats were to sign a LT that would likely be the long-term goal, with this year being a three-tackle rotation like the Pats used at the start of 2015.

But yeah, Okung is going to make way too much money to be our third best tackle.

Isn't Solder's contract 100% guaranteed?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Pats and bears want to give CJ Anderson a look after his visit with Miami.

Bears, Patriots want to bring in Anderson, too

 

[JMC00]

There going to basically bring back the entire starting offensive line and the narrative they will go with is "well they were injured" while ignoring they were mediocre at best when relatively healthy.

The only time in the season the Pats had all 5 starting OL healthy was: Never.

Stork missed the first 7 games
Solder was gone after Game #4
Kline was playing very good until he got his shoulder injured and played through it but was clearly effected by it
Jackson and Mason both missed time. With Jackson missing both playoff games
Then Vollmer got injured and came back still hobbled playing out of position..

So.....

 

[Froob]

Pats and bears want to give CJ Anderson a look

Sounds like he didn't sign an offer sheet with the Dolphins yet. Interesting...

 

[BradyFTW!]

Having three of them is not. Matthews said he chose Tennessee for the number of balls he will potentially catch over dollars he would receive. He was probably upset how Miami underutilized him and didn't want to underused again.

I think it's kind of a red flag that Matthews isn't confident he can beat out Amendola. If he could just do that, he would've seen more targets here than in Tennessee. Oh well, hard to be too critical of a guy who's just looking for an opportunity to play and establish his value.

 

[Froob]

The only time in the season the Pats had all 5 starting OL healthy was: Never.

Stork missed the first 7 games
Solder was gone after Game #4
Kline was playing very good until he got his shoulder injured and played through it but was clearly effected by it
Jackson and Mason both missed time. With Jackson missing both playoff games
Then Vollmer got injured and came back still hobbled playing out of position..

So.....

Not to mention Shaq and Jackson haven't been coaching by Scar aka the linemen whisperer yet.

 

[DW Toys]

I'd rather 1 year of Jones than 1 year of Michael Floyd. Jones is better at his position than Floyd at his.

Beg to differ. Floyd is going to be top notch. Jones will be very good.
DW Toys

 

[BradyFTW!]

Isn't Solder's contract 100% guaranteed?

According to Spotrac, if the Pats cut him a year from now they'd save $7M of his $11.1M cap hit:

Nate Solder

 

[RobertWeathers]

Or "the entire interior of the OL was injured and/or young for the duration of the season".

I'm not pumped about it either, and would love to see the Pats spring for Kelvin Beachum, but it's something.

With the o-line last year what could go wrong did go wrong.

 

[Marqui]

Adam Schefter ?@AdamSchefter 1m1 minute ago


Jets are re-signing RB Bilal Powell, per source.

Yes! Didn't want to waste money on him.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Looking at their combine/pro day numbers, Hogan is fairly comparable to LaFell. An inch shorter, a little heavier, generally more athletic. Hopefully for his sake he has better hands.

 

[DW Toys]

Dude ran a 4.7 at the combine in 2003. He's always been slow as ****, and that never stopped him from putting together a borderline-HOF career before now. Weirdly enough, I think that's exactly why he's aged so well. He never had any of the skills that you're supposed to lose as you age, so even in his current washed up form he's still about 90% as good as he was in his prime.

Here is a thought. In the AFC Champ game, we needed to get someone open and not necessarily deep. They doubled Gronk and Edelman. Who would you want to go to? James White, La Fell, Martin, Scott Chandler or an "I don't care how slow I am I will be open and make the catcth" Mr. A. Bolden? We are not talking stretch the field guy in this offense although I still say the best pick is Mike Wallace, but Bolden fits our short to medium pass attack. Can we agree?
DW Toys

 

[gobesmug]

No, in actuality the Broncos screwed up. They should have long termed him. Now he has created CAP hell for them but.......as we know, the Broncos are never under any of the same CAP laws because of Roger "Captain Integrity (love that one who's ever idea it was)" Goodell does not want them vanquished.

So if we want CAP hell we wait for the tremendously too much number and take our lumps with a Comp pick.....or be very smart. We know he will miss some games in 2016. The over/under says Jones misses at least three games in 2016. There are three scenarios to mention that are very fair on both sides

Option one: The Cardinals missed out on a pass rusher, we missed out on a WR. They are stacked at WR and we are at DE. Michael Floyd is under the same contract timing as Jones. I say we can get Floyd for less money at the end of the year than jones if they play equally as well and I say Floyd plays more games.

Option two: The Browns fans are heading for the torches and pitchforks. Not only do they not have a QB, they have a clown they drafted as a pretend QB they have to cut and just lost 4 starters yesterday. I don't know who the new GM is, but he said he wants to keep his guys and guess what....they said see ya! Now Josh Gordon wants out. As a PR perspective, to move a player that might fall off the wagon is not a bad thing pending the return for the Browns who have the CAP room.

The Pats are not going to give up a DE whose market was set at $17mm by Vernon yesterday, even though they know he will never resign with them., just for a single player who is one "Communion Cup sip" away from suspension. If Gordon fails, the Browns get nada for him. Trading him is realistic for the Browns pending return. Gordon still has a value although guarded. But the Pats would need a much higher valued piece included. CB Joe Haden makes sense. He is a gamble with two concussions last year but is healthy now. This is a fair trade for both Teams and no one can spin that. It must be for the pair of players not one. The Browns come up with a prized possession to appease the fan base in Chandler Jones.

Option three: The Bears have to resign Jeffry at mega bucks next year as his tender was $14.5.They signed Kevin White to a $16mm contract and has never played a down yet because of shin surgery. Those two alone will make more than Gronk , Edelman and Amendola in 2016. The Bears are desperate for pass rush. Would Kevin White be available for the right price of a young pass rusher? White alone for Jones is not enough , but White and a #2 or #3 I would do.

It's a proven young guy in Jones with great 12.5 sack resume last year versus an unproven first round pick gamble. We can afford White and let him develop this year. It was good he had a camp under his belt. This is also a very fair trade.

The alternative: That 3rd round comp in 2017 better be a player worth $17mm for all you "let's keep Jones and see what happens" Cousins.

DW Toys

P.S Would you consider Hartline and Haden? Thoughts?

I understand the desire to get more from C Jones than a 3rd comp, but Jones is an elite DE, top 10 maybe even top 5 at his position.

Floyd is only the #3 wr on his own team, he isn't a top 20 or even top 30 wr in the NFL. Jones is far more valuable than Floyd.

Josh Gordon is too risky to give up anything greater than a low round pick, and no way the Browns give him up for that, especially after letting their leading wr from last year leave in FA.

 

[TBR]

He kind of bobbled 2 of those

 

[Gronk]

I think it's kind of a red flag that Matthews isn't confident he can beat out Amendola. If he could just do that, he would've seen more targets here than in Tennessee. Oh well, hard to be too critical of a guy who's just looking for an opportunity to play and establish his value.

Amendola gets killed here pretty routinely but he's the flip-side of the fan forum overvaluing certain players on a team (e.g. JG for a #1 pick). Should JE and DA have the opposite contract? Yeah, probably but DA is a lot better than people here give him credit for, and clearly in Matthews case it seems possible that it was considered an impossibility from the word go that he would beat him out straight up. But agreed that it's hard to be too critical of Matthews when he appears to simply be being thoughtful and honest about real football opportunities in addition to money.

Liking the idea of Hogan. Good value, opportunity to make a jump for himself and for the team just by being the player he has been.

 

[Froob]

Here is a thought. In the AFC Champ game, we needed to get someone open and not necessarily deep. They doubled Gronk and Edelman. Who would you want to go to? James White, La Fell, Martin, Scott Chandler or an "I don't care how slow I am I will be open and make the catcth" Mr. A. Bolden? We are not talking stretch the field guy in this offense although I still say the best pick is Mike Wallace, but Bolden fits our short to medium pass attack. Can we agree?
DW Toys

We needed the line to block more than anything. It's almost impossible to have a good passing attack no matter who is out there running routes when your line is a disaster.

 

[Ross12]

He kind of bobbled 2 of those

Yeah I figured I would post them as both good and bad examples... He has the moves and speed to get open but may not have the greatest hands either.

 

[DW Toys]

Time to get creative.

Sign Mike Wallace and have him run a bunch of end-arounds/jet sweeps. And some go-routes (look how that worked for Carolina/Gin last year)

It can be an extension of our running game. If that starts working well, throw in some fakes to help set up some runs for Blount/Lewis/? (defense will be on their heels) and even the pass.

Maybe Harvin, although I'd be too nervous every time he touched the ball, hoping he won't get hurt.

Good post. His number are not bad. Routes and hands are decent. Good soldier in Minn.
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[IllegalContact]

Why go in on Kap instead of trying to keep Fitz if you're the Jets? Are they ******ed? Oh wait, yes they are.

this is easy.......the jets realize they got everything they could from fitz and still didn't make the playoffs.......but interesting scenarios building with the broncos in the kaepernick talks....2 teams, 2 QB's........be great if someone else jumped in and took one of the QB's...I want kap with the jets....first it leaves the broncos without another option plus it gets the jets fans yapping stupid crap again