Coach Goog and Those Remarkable Rookie OL's

[shmessy]

Folks, that was a QUARTER OF A BILLION (American) DOLLAR defensive front four going up against an interior line of Shaq Mason, David Andrews and Tre Jackson yesterday. These rookies were spelled from time to time by the erstwhile Josh Kline.

Ladies and Gentlemen, that is two 4th Rounders and two Undrafteds.

Brady went back to pass 59 times yesterday and was sacked twice.

Aside from Brady's 3 kneel downs, the running game went 12 for 60 (5 ypc).

I was down on coach Goog early last year and have made my mea culpas many times since. But this facet is absolutely incredible and cannot be mentioned enough. What an unbelievable coaching performance and David and Goliath performance by those players.

 

[Ring 6]

Folks, that was a QUARTER OF A BILLION (American) DOLLAR defensive front four going up against an interior line of Shaq Mason, David Andrews and Tre Jackson yesterday. These rookies were spelled from time to time by the erstwhile Josh Kline.

Ladies and Gentlemen, that is two 4th Rounders and two Undrafteds.

Brady went back to pass 59 times yesterday and was sacked twice.

Aside from Brady's 3 kneel downs, the running game went 12 for 60 (5 ypc).

I was down on coach Goog early last year and have made my mea culpas many times since. But this facet is absolutely incredible and cannot be mentioned enough. What an unbelievable coaching performance and David and Goliath performance by those players.

Even more incredible since I am told they were coached by a defensive genius.

 

[pencilneckgeek]

And one of those sacks was a coverage sack where Brady could have run for a few yards by slid for a loss of <1 yard.

 

[varjao]

Agreed.

Now, what to say about Cannon...what happened to Vollmer?

 

[turkeyneck]

I'm with you. Last year at this time it looked to me like Goog was bloody-mindedly trying to force-fit a playing style that didn't suit the players he had available. I was wrong.

But I'd still like to sit down with him and BB over a few brews and talk about what was going on with their thinking in the first 4 games last year.

 

[SacPete1]

Its obviously still early but the interior OL is the story of the season so far for me.
And while I just love the aggressive heavy passing scheme we've had so far, I'm optimistically looking forward to the heavy formation and ground and pound scheme we'll be seeing soon.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

And one of those sacks was a coverage sack where Brady could have run for a few yards by slid for a loss of <1 yard.

And the possibly game changing strip sack came when LT Solder wiffed a block.
Seemingly Cannon played fine in pass blocking.

Notice that the little guy's runs were primarily up the middle, not the dreaded outside the tackle plays.

 

[JMC00]

Honestly think Lewis could have went for 80-85 yards on the ground if they had made more of an effort to run yesterday.

 

[Fencer]

Seemingly Cannon played fine in pass blocking.

I think he got dinged for 2 false starts. But otherwise you have a point.

 

[patchick]

It's interesting how different Mason, Andrews and Jackson were as prospects. It used to be that you could point to a physical prototype for a Pats OL prospect, but take a look at these three:

Shaq Mason: Terrific athlete (32" VJ fits the old prototype) but AFAIK the shortest o-lineman BB has ever spent a draft pick on; probably maxed out at 304 lbs. Generally projected to center pre-draft.

Tre' Jackson: A classic "road grader" RG prospect; massive (6'4" 330), powerful, lead-footed space-eater. We're talking 25" VJ, 5.49 40 and declined to even run the shuttle and cone kind of lead-footed.

David Andrews: Undersized (295 lbs, <76" wingspan), good but not special athlete. Succeeds on intelligence, instincts and toughness.

 

[patfanken]

Kudo's Shmess. This point was one of the points I was going t mention last night . In fact I really SHOULD have mentioned it, because it is was that significant. But instead I got wrapped up in my own verbosity and fatigue and dropped the ball.,.

Googs has proven already that he's more than just a worthy successor to Scar. The man can COACH! A lot of us were complaining early last year.....a lot. We should have known better. BB didn't just pick this guy up at a truck stop. We know that his preferred method of developing coaches is to raise them from QC assistants himself, But HE went out and found Googs, saw his work and liked what he saw. I'm think about how much Googs had to overcome with Bill to get here. DAMNED, the man worked for the Jets for Christ sakes,

Looks like our OL is in safe hands for the next decade. I just wonder how long it will take before we go from complaining, to impressed......, to spoiled.

 

[Sicilian]

A lot of credit goes to Googs, BB, and the rest of the coaching staff for finding and coaching up these kids. But I have to give a good amount of credit to Brady as well. There were a few plays where I noticed (and probably more where I didn't) him motion a receiver like Gronk or Edelman back to the line to block because he recognized the blitz coming. As a QB, having the savvy and confidence to eliminate one of your best receiving options in order to help the protection is a trait that most QB's simply don't have. Manning is good at setting protections too, which is why he almost never gets sacked despite a lot of different OL combinations. Not taking anything away from the coaches though, they've done a great job.

 

[shmessy]

Kudo's Shmess. This point was one of the points I was going t mention last night . In fact I really SHOULD have mentioned it, because it is was that significant. But instead I got wrapped up in my own verbosity and fatigue and dropped the ball.,.

Googs has proven already that he's more than just a worthy successor to Scar. The man can COACH! We a lot of us were complaining early last year.....a lot. We should have known better. BB didn't just pick this guy up at a truck stop. We know that his preferred method of developing coaches is to raise them from QC assistants himself, But HE went out and found Googs, saw his work and liked what he saw. I'm think about how much Googs had to overcome with Bill to get here. DAMNED, the man worked for the Jets for Christ sakes,

Looks like our OL is in safe hands for the next decade. I just wonder how long it will take before we go from complaining, to impressed......, to spoiled.

I can't overstate how hard I was on the guy the first month of last year. I truly felt he was a square peg for this franchise and that they had to get rid of him pronto.

Fifty lashes for me, but it's consolation to know that someone who knows far more football like you thought the same.

 

[Dexter]

Folks, that was a QUARTER OF A BILLION (American) DOLLAR defensive front four going up against an interior line of Shaq Mason, David Andrews and Tre Jackson yesterday. These rookies were spelled from time to time by the erstwhile Josh Kline.

Ladies and Gentlemen, that is two 4th Rounders and two Undrafteds.

Brady went back to pass 59 times yesterday and was sacked twice.

Aside from Brady's 3 kneel downs, the running game went 12 for 60 (5 ypc).

I was down on coach Goog early last year and have made my mea culpas many times since. But this facet is absolutely incredible and cannot be mentioned enough. What an unbelievable coaching performance and David and Goliath performance by those players.

Nitpicking a little bit Kline actually played most of the game, it was Jackson who played around 20 snaps and was rotated in instead of Mason at times. Kline gets plenty of criticism from the fans but deserves a lot of credit for last night.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Goog has impressed me more than scaarnecchia.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Goog has impressed me more than scaarnecchia.

Blasphemy!

 

[manxman2601]

Nitpicking a little bit Kline actually played most of the game, it was Jackson who played around 20 snaps and was rotated in instead of Mason at times. Kline gets plenty of criticism from the fans but deserves a lot of credit for last night.

This. Kline played 100% of the snaps, Mason 66% and Jackson 31%. Andrews has been a revelation, through two games, I believe he still hasn't given up QB pressure. I think Cannon deserves credit too for yesterday, after all, was Mario Williams mentioned aside from being blocked by Gronk?