ESPN Removes Reiss's Reaction to Their Article About Patriots Stealing Playsheets

[aluminum seats]

That is simply not true.

I think it is.

 

[aluminum seats]

As some know I'm a big supporter and defender of Mike Reiss. I think very highly of him on all fronts (person, husband, father, professional, and journalist). I have no personal relationship with him other than meeting his brother through a mutual friend.

For those of you who say that Mike does not have any journalistic integrity because he works for ESPN are extremely misguided.

I like him too. But he can't stay there if they do that to his work. I am sure that he knows this.

 

[Deus Irae]

I think it is.

Then you think something silly. Reiss has defended his pieces and told people when they were monkeyed with. That's journalistic integrity.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I like him too. But he can't stay there if they do that to his work. I am sure that he knows this.

Thats a different subject. An employer suppressing your creativity and thoughts certainly warrants a career change. But that's Mike's call.

To my knowledge his bosses aren't asking him (or he is refusing) to run with anti-Patriot stories or falsifying or slanting information to support an agenda.

My point is that he still has his journalistic integrity.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

This entire saga gets crazier by the day. I think Noam Chomsky must work for the NFL.


10 strategies of manipulation by the media

1. The strategy of distraction.

2. Create problems, then offer solutions

3. The gradual strategy

4. The strategy of deferring

5. Go to the public as a little child

6. Use the emotional side more than the reflection

7. Keep the public in ignorance and mediocrity

8. To encourage the public to be complacent with mediocrity

Promote the public to believe that the fact is fashionable to be stupid, vulgar and uneducated…

9. Self-blame Strengthen

10. Getting to know the individuals better than they know themselves

Where's quoting unnamed league resources?

 

[aluminum seats]

Then you think something silly. Reiss has defended his pieces and told people when they were monkeyed with. That's journalistic integrity.

At this point, it's simply not enough. Just my opinion, don't really feel like going back and forth about it.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Time to call Comcast and ask them to remove/block ESPN.

I am going to the Monday Night Pats game, so no need for the Execrable Sports Propaganda Network in my life.

 

[aluminum seats]

Thats a different subject. An employer suppressing your creativity and thoughts certainly warrants a career change. But that's Mike's call.

To my knowledge his bosses aren't asking him (or he is refusing) to run with anti-Patriot stories or falsifying or slanting information to support an agenda.

My point is that he still has his journalistic integrity.

OK. As a journalist in a past life, I just feel he has to leave now. Didn't feel it before. It sucks.

 

[signbabybrady]

That is simply not true.

ESPN = Tabloid

If Kronkite took a job with some cheesy tabloid his journalistic integrity would have been shot.

How does someone else editing your post impact your credibility? Particularly when the stuff they removed was critical of the site's material?

Because I have no way of knowing how much has been changed and what other stuff might be going on. If they take stuff out what are the refusing to let him research and report. Why is this of any value to me if I know he is being censored.

He has called them out on his blog and his twitter feed in the past. he has no control over his editors.

Most important, if you ever read his personal blog, he has a young daughter with health care issues.

Yet YOU keep playing hero with his job.

Following him through the years I have no doubts he is more than skilled enough to find other work to support his family. And even still that doesn't change much if he chooses to stay at ESPN that's his right he has a family to look out for. All I am saying is if he is there he can't be the best anymore and I think he should leave because of it.

 

[Deus Irae]

ESPN = Tabloid

If Kronkite took a job with some cheesy tabloid his journalistic integrity would have been shot.

You've been beating this ridiculous drum for a while. Have at it. Just understand that you're talking crazy. I don't know when you and Aluminum seats decided that losing your mental stability was the way to go, but I choose not to follow you down the rabbit hole.

 

[aluminum seats]

You've been beating this ridiculous drum for a while. Have at it. Just understand that you're talking crazy. I don't know when you and Aluminum seats decided that losing your mental stability was the way to go, but I choose not to follow you down the rabbit hole.

Why are you being a ****. We were having a conversation.

 

[RobertWeathers]

OK. As a journalist in a past life, I just feel he has to leave now. Didn't feel it before. It sucks.

If I was him, I would leave but it's his decision.

 

[raduray]

ESPN = Tabloid

If Kronkite took a job with some cheesy tabloid his journalistic integrity would have been shot.


Because I have no way of knowing how much has been changed and what other stuff might be going on. If they take stuff out what are the refusing to let him research and report. Why is this of any value to me if I know he is being censored.


Following him through the years I have no doubts he is more than skilled enough to find other work to support his family. And even still that doesn't change much if he chooses to stay at ESPN that's his right he has a family to look out for. All I am saying is if he is there he can't be the best anymore and I think he should leave because of it.

It's Cronkite. I know because I have lots of gray in my hair

 

[aluminum seats]

If I was him, I would leave but it's his decision.

Yep, agreed.

 

[Oswlek]

Because I have no way of knowing how much has been changed and what other stuff might be going on. If they take stuff out what are the refusing to let him research and report. Why is this of any value to me if I know he is being censored.

Which may be valid if you are simply referring to the posts themselves, but you went beyond that and denigrated Reiss personally.

ESPN = Tabloid

If Kronkite took a job with some cheesy tabloid his journalistic integrity would have been shot.

You are creating something of a false dichotomy here. There are (or, at least, were) significant differences between tabloid reporting and news reporting. If ESPN is the tabloid, what is the reputable sports news source that Reiss should move on to?

 

[turkeyneck]

Reiss needs to keep very meticulous records and notes in anticipation of the time he escapes that ratsnest and can write the book that needs writing.

 

[signbabybrady]

You've been beating this ridiculous drum for a while. Have at it. Just understand that you're talking crazy. I don't know when you and Aluminum seats decided that losing your mental stability was the way to go, but I choose not to follow you down the rabbit hole.

Can you honestly say that Reiss' blog and reporting have been better since he joined ESPN?

I might be going a little overboard but I have been a big fan of Reiss for over a decade and it's a shame to see what's going on. He is no longer the best on the Pats beat

You've been beating this ridiculous drum for a while. Have at it. Just understand that you're talking crazy. I don't know when you and Aluminum seats decided that losing your mental stability was the way to go, but I choose not to follow you down the rabbit hole.

why is it ridiculous? All I am saying is he should leave ESPN or we should stop referring to him as the best on the beat.

 

[Deus Irae]

Why are you being a ****. We were having a conversation.

First:

"Just my opinion, don't really feel like going back and forth about it."

is not having a conversation. It's attempting to cut one off.

Second:

Noting the craziness of your position is not "being a ****". It's noting the craziness of your position. Professional integrity is not harmed when you call out those who've messed with your work, and corrected the issue. That's actually an example of displaying professional integrity. If you want to see someone at ESPNFL who pissed away his professional integrity, start with Mort. When you start naming Reiss (or Schefter, for that matter), you're on the bus to crazytown.

 

[aluminum seats]

Noting the craziness of your position is not "being a ****". It's noting the craziness of your position. Professional integrity is not harmed when you call out those who've messed with your work, and corrected the issue. That's actually an example of displaying professional integrity. If you want to see someone at ESPNFL who pissed away his professional integrity, start with Mort. When you start naming Reiss (or Schefter, for that matter), you're on the bus to crazytown.

Talking about "mental stability" is a pissy little personal attack. And ****ish. Which is something that you enjoy, obviously, as you've had hundreds of similar spats on this board.

 

[aluminum seats]

If ESPN is the tabloid, what is the reputable sports news source that Reiss should move on to?

Good point here...ESPN is almost a monopoly nationally. It's an awful state of affairs.