Official Brady vs. NFL Federal Court 8/12 Thread (LIVE UPDATES)

[SVN]

Stephanie Stradley ?@StephStradley 7m7 minutes ago
Kessler is gonna go, "didn't happen, and there are many alternative possibilities for the non-direct *evidence* that the NFL says they have"
vs ?@SVN2010 6m6 minutes ago
@StephStradley well his first answer was really bad. He said its possible mcnally did to help brady. Why would he say that now?
Stephanie Stradley ?@StephStradley 1m1 minute ago
.@SVN2010 No Kessler's answer wasn't bad. Reasonably acknowledged many multiple explanations for NFL *evidence.* Reasonable is persuasive.

 

[Gronkowski123]

the ****ing texts.
next comes the " destroyed phone "

 

[dales804]

The answer:

Stephen Brown ?@PPVSRB 2m2 minutes agoNew York, USA
Kessler says Wells didn't communicate directly with Brady, establish expectation of punishment is he didn't cooperate.

 

[juny]

This is so moronic....

Air leaks out of everything. Especially in the cold.

If you fill a ball up to the lowest possible allowed PSI (12.5) in a hot room, and then bring them outside where it's freezing cold and rainy, they're clearly going to leak.

Yet, we're in a federal court house.......seriously, I hope history brands this as the most moronic "scandal" of all-time. Goodell should have to serve time in jail for seriously wasting everyone's time and burning their brain cells. Unbelievable.

They don't "leak". Ifyou took said ball back to the hot room the PSI will go back up.

 

[Kdo5]

Ahh we really do need a good answer on the text messages part.

 

[sb1]

Stephen Brown ?@PPVSRB 2m2 minutes ago New York, USA

Kessler says Wells didn't communicate directly with Brady, establish expectation of punishment is he didn't cooperate.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

That would be some quick thinking if so. I didn't make the connection until a full few minutes later. Again, why Kessler is who he is and why I'm some guy on Patsfans.

OTOH, "some guy on Patsfans" > NFL lawyers.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

He was answering the question "why would someone do it without Brady's consent." That's all. he didn't say anyone actually did any tampering.

No need to overreact.

I was not aware that Kessler's answer was in response to that question... thanks for clearing that up

 

[sb1]

Let's hear about the phone. I want it all out there.

 

[eom]

I'd imagine this has been linked, but in case it hasn't this guy is livetweeting the thing

https://mobile.twitter.com/PPVSRB/tweets

 

[BradyFTW!]

Ahh we really do need a good answer on the text messages part.

Yeah, I'm fine with this questioning. Assuming Brady's innocent, there should be a perfectly reasonable explanation that they're fine with laying out in court.

 

[dales804]

Here we go:

Stephen Brown ?@PPVSRB 3s3 seconds agoNew York, USA
Kessler says Brady didn't cooperate out of privacy concerns.

 

[sb1]

Kessler says Brady didn't turn them over on advice from Yee.

 

[Fencer]

I would guess that he's leading to "even if you accept that the deflation happened as the NFL assumes, you still have little basis to assume that Brady was in on it". Ties back into Berman's argument that you have to show that Brady intended to be part of a conspiracy before you can punish him for it.

The fan in me wants him to lead with "there's no good evidence that deflation occurred in the first place", but there's a reason why Kessler gets paid a ton to do this and I'm just some guy on the internet.

Maybe the judge signaled that Goodell has a legal right to think McNally deflated footballs in the bathroom.

Not that he's CORRECT -- but that there's a enough basis that he gets to claim it, given the vast deference commonly accorded arbitrators and so on.

 

[Todd Bradley]

They don't "leak". Ifyou took said ball back to the hot room the PSI will go back up.

Oh really? So my cars tires just magically deflate when I leave it inside my driveway instead of my garage?

I guess Brady comes to my neighborhood and lets a little air out....

 

[Kdo5]

Here we go:

Stephen Brown ?@PPVSRB 3s3 seconds agoNew York, USA
Kessler says Brady didn't cooperate out of privacy concerns.

Yes that is perfectly logical explanation. Just look at the email situation.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Stephen Brown ?@PPVSRB 16s17 seconds agoNew York, USA
Kessler says Brady didn't cooperate out of privacy concerns.

And there it is. Given all of the leaks, in this case and all prior cases, it's going to be really hard for the NFL to go on the offensive about that. Also going to be hard for the NFL to argue against it given that "we didn't ask for his phone" is out of the picture. You can't claim in response to this that you didn't request his phone, while simultaneously using the fact that he wouldn't/couldn't produce his phone to infer guilt.

 

[sb1]

Kessler admits Brady "should have conducted himself differently with Wells".

 

[ctpatsfan77]

They don't "leak". Ifyou took said ball back to the hot room the PSI will go back up.

They probably do leak, but not at a rate that would make any significant difference in this case.

 

[rochrist]

not liking this anymore...

come on kessler!

If you guys are going to overreact to every question, you wont survive the day.