PATRIOTS NEWS Official Brady vs. NFL Federal Court 8/12 Thread (LIVE UPDATES)

[JackBauer]

Kessler just threw an interception on 2nd and goal from the 1. WTF?

Think we're being a little premature.

 

[XLIX]

Are those actually quotes from Berman?

No

 

[SHOWTIME15]

R-E-L-A-X

-Aaron Rodgers

 

[voluntarysaftey]

Unfortunately Kessler has to prove 'Brady had no knowledge' and he doesn't have to argue 'nothing wrong was done' -- that was for Kraft to argue and he laid down

 

[borg]

Not liking Kesslers answers, I assume he is going somewhere with it. Why say the balls were deflated cause of science ? Unless that would poison settlement talks

We are reading 1 sentence rehashes every 3 minutes. Pretty sure more is being said with the other 2 minutes 50 seconds.

 

[Concussion Protocol]

Think we're being a little premature.

You're right, he knows what he's doing. Just didn't expect that.

 

[sb1]

Stephen Brown ?@PPVSRB 1m1 minute ago New York, USA

Kessler: "Even the NFL...does not try to contend any player can be disciplined for being aware of someone else’s conduct."

 

[turkeyneck]

he is saying bathroom deflation by mcnally acting alone is a possibility

Throwing the Dorito Dinks to the wolves?

 

[FourierSeries]

Oh, come on, Kessler. That is seriously weak.

He was answering the question "why would someone do it without Brady's consent." That's all. he didn't say anyone actually did any tampering.

No need to overreact.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

Stephen Brown ?@PPVSRB 11s11 seconds agoMassapequa Park, NY
Kessler: After all this money, all this investigation, he couldn’t get beyond…at least he was generally aware something may have happened."

^^ This is why I hate lawyers

 

[dales804]

Stephen Brown ?@PPVSRB 24s25 seconds agoNew York, USA
Berman: Why did Mr. Brady not cooperate with the Wells investigation, with respect to providing texts?


Let's see what Kessler says...

 

[Todd Bradley]

This is so moronic....

Air leaks out of everything. Especially in the cold.

If you fill a ball up to the lowest possible allowed PSI (12.5) in a hot room, and then bring them outside where it's freezing cold and rainy, they're clearly going to leak.

Yet, we're in a federal court house.......seriously, I hope history brands this as the most moronic "scandal" of all-time. Goodell should have to serve time in jail for seriously wasting everyone's time and burning their brain cells. Unbelievable.

 

[sb1]

Berman asking Kessler about Brady not wanting to turn over texts.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Unfortunately Kessler has to prove 'Brady had no knowledge' and he doesn't have to argue 'nothing wrong was done' -- that was for Kraft to argue and he laid down

This isn't a criminal proceeding. Kessler doesn't have to prove Brady had no knowledge. He simply has to show that there is no basis for this punishment, by whatever means.

 

[carpetbagger1]

Oh, come on, Kessler. That is seriously weak.

We have no idea what was said by the Judge behind closed doors. Kessler likely got an indication of what the Judge thinks Brady's weaknesses are, and Kessler will specifically tailor his arguments to address them. Sadly, yet another opportunity for unsubstantiated speculation.

Bottom line, Kessler's presentation will be based on numerous bases we will never know about.

 

[reflexblue]

I would guess that he's leading to "even if you accept that the deflation happened as the NFL assumes, you still have little basis to assume that Brady was in on it". Ties back into Berman's argument that you have to show that Brady intended to be part of a conspiracy before you can punish him for it.

The fan in me wants him to lead with "there's no good evidence that deflation occurred in the first place", but there's a reason why Kessler gets paid a ton to do this and I'm just some guy on the internet.

Its possible kessler picked up on bermans line of questioning and is playing to that with his argument?

 

[TinhWoodhead]

i can see smoke coming from goodell right about now....

might be Irsay sitting behind him

 

[turkeyneck]

He was answering the question "why would someone do it without Brady's consent." That's all. he didn't say anyone actually did any tampering.

No need to overreact.

I wouldn't accept the premise of the question. I would point out that the evidence shows that there was no "it" that was done.

 

[MitchKumstein]

He was answering the question "why would someone do it without Brady's consent." That's all. he didn't say anyone actually did any tampering.

No need to overreact.

That's what I was thinking. He answered a hypothetical question with a hypothetical answer

 

[BradyFTW!]

Its possible kessler picked up on bermans line of questioning and is playing to that with his argument?

That would be some quick thinking if so. I didn't make the connection until a full few minutes later. Again, why Kessler is who he is and why I'm some guy on Patsfans.