Congratulations!

[Charge]

Patriotspride: It is you and your knuckle dragging cohorts that
frequent this board who brought up the past. Even Tom Brady
was quoted in Sports Illustrated as saying "the Patriots had no
business winning that game". Just in case you missed the article
it was referring to last years playoff game in San Diego! Funny,
you seem reluctant to discuss what the outcome of the September
16th game in Foxboro will be. Trust me, the the Chargers have
that date circled on their calenders. As a Charger fan I am not
the least bet worried about the outcome of that game. The only
question is, how much the Chargers will beat the Patriots by!!
It's a good thing that it will be a prime time game so everyone
can watch disappointed Patriot fans exit their stadium half way
through the 4th quarter like the last time the Chargers came to
Foxboro!!!

 

[RS]

Right. There wasn't a rule prohibiting that when it happened, dumbass.

LOL. SURE there wasn't.

From
http://www.profootballtalk.com/9-16-04through9-30-04.htm

There's speculation running rampant in league circles that Marvin Demoff, who represented Broncos quarterback John Elway during his playing career, is the agent who donated $100,000 to charity as part of the resolution of the NFL's investigation into allegations that the Broncos circumvented the salary cap from 1996 to 1998 by deferring compensation for several players and by promising not to waive at least one player prior to a certain date, essentially converting a roster bonus into a guaranteed payment that should have been prorated over the remaining life of his contract.

On Thursday, the NFL announced that it fined the Broncos $950,000 and stripped the team of a third-round pick in the 2005 draft for the salary cap violations.

Elway is the most logical and obvious target of suspicion, since he'd been with the team for more than a decade and was aching to get his fingers on a certain silver football with a stump.

And it's the second time the Broncos have been nailed for their actions during the years that resulted in two opportunities for Elway to fondle the Lombardi. In 2001, the team paid another near-seven-figure fine and coughed up a third-round pick over payments made to Elway and running back Terrell Davis.

Need further proof that Broncos were looking for creative ways to keep Elway on the field and happy with his coin during the latter years of his career? Look no farther than the still-lingering legal battle between Pat Bowlen and former team owner Edgar Kaiser. That brouhaha got started because Bowlen offered Elway -- while he was still on the payroll -- a 10 percent interest in the team for $15 million and another 10 percent share "designed in part to compensate Elway for playing another season and forgoing his planned retirement."

Although Elway didn't take Bowlen up on his offer, the fact that the offer even was made tells us that the Broncos were willing to do whatever they could to keep Elway and a quality supporting cast on the field -- even if it meant giving the players side compensation (in the form of a chunk of the pink slip) or engaging in the activities for which the team already has been slapped, twice.

In fact, we're surprised that the NFL hasn't slapped the Broncos already for offering Elway such thinly-disguised value, which surely would not have been part of Elway's cap number.

Of course the Broncos now insist that they did these things to help with cash flow in connection with the construction of a new stadium, and that they gained no competitive advantage. The easiest way to refute this claim would be to examine the amount of cap room they had left in 1996 through 1998. If they were scraping the ceiling even with the improper payments and promises, then their explanation that they derived no competitive benefit simply isn't credible.

Back to Demoff, we find it somewhat odd that his penalty (if he indeed is the agent who paid the 100 large to charity) wasn't a suspension or a decertification. Though we don't know enough about the specific agent rules to say that a payment to charity is beyond the realm of potential sanctions, we can't recall many/any agents being required to take that route when they run afoul of the rules.

The bottom line is that the Broncos cheated, and that at least one agent and multiple players were in on the ruse. Absent proof that the cap charges in question could have been absorbed without releasing and/or letting other players leave via free agency, our conclusion is that the Broncos' twin silver trophies are tarnished, permanently.

Hope you cheaters are proud of yourselves. All you earned were two asterisks beside your two titles.

What a sad way for Elway to end his career - carrying that team to two TAINTED Super Bowl championships.

NO RESPECT for the cheating Donkeys!

 

[patriotspride]

Patriotspride: It is you and your knuckle dragging cohorts that
frequent this board who brought up the past. Even Tom Brady
was quoted in Sports Illustrated as saying "the Patriots had no
business winning that game". Just in case you missed the article
it was referring to last years playoff game in San Diego! Funny,
you seem reluctant to discuss what the outcome of the September
16th game in Foxboro will be. Trust me, the the Chargers have
that date circled on their calenders. As a Charger fan I am not
the least bet worried about the outcome of that game. The only
question is, how much the Chargers will beat the Patriots by!!
It's a good thing that it will be a prime time game so everyone
can watch disappointed Patriot fans exit their stadium half way
through the 4th quarter like the last time the Chargers came to
Foxboro!!!

boohoo the pain of it all .sent home by the undedog pats lol lol .3 months later and your still crying yourself to sleep .lol lol oh how i love it so. that si article makes it even more sweet of a win for pats fans and that much more painful for dumb ass charger fans like yourself.but thanks for bringing that up .

 

[Charge]

Patriotspride: I know! What else can a fan of a washed up team
like the Patriots do but dwell on one game in the past. Especially
after his Team got even older by drafting Randy Moss. Again,
what else does a small minded illiterate like yourself have to do?
You even have trouble stringing enough words together to form a
coherent sentence!! There is a simple reason that your coach
was so busy signing free agents in the off season and that is
because the Patriots are not good enough to beat the Chargers
in the future!! He is not stupid, knows this and that is why
he is willing to take the risk of bringing Moss in! As for your
remarks about the Broncos. I rather face the Patriots at home
anytime than the Broncos at home. There is no tougher team then
the Broncos at home! In fact, even the Chiefs are tougher at
home (atleast they have a running game). When I look at the
Chargers schedule each season I usually mark these games as a
future losses. You see, unlike you I am a realist! So, it is really
quite obvious that you suffer from a dimunition of grey matter
(that means your stupid). Please stick to one syllable words so
we can try to understand your mindless rantings. In the end,
as one of fellow Patriot fans stated in a post on this forum, you
are a racist idiot!!!

 

[patriotspride]

Patriotspride: I know! What else can a fan of a washed up team
like the Patriots do but dwell on one game in the past. Especially
after his Team got even older by drafting Randy Moss. Again,
what else does a small minded illiterate like yourself have to do?
You even have trouble stringing enough words together to form a
coherent sentence!! There is a simple reason that your coach
was so busy signing free agents in the off season and that is
because the Patriots are not good enough to beat the Chargers
in the future!! He is not stupid, knows this and that is why
he is willing to take the risk of bringing Moss in! As for your
remarks about the Broncos. I rather face the Patriots at home
anytime than the Broncos at home. There is no tougher team then
the Broncos at home! In fact, even the Chiefs are tougher at
home (atleast they have a running game). When I look at the
Chargers schedule each season I usually mark these games as a
future losses. You see, unlike you I am a realist! So, it is really
quite obvious that you suffer from a dimunition of grey matter
(that means your stupid). Please stick to one syllable words so
we can try to understand your mindless rantings. In the end,
as one of fellow Patriot fans stated in a post on this forum, you
are a racist idiot!!!

lol lol oh now somebody is mad ahhhhhhhhh lol your a riot .that's right I'm dwelling on the past and im going to continue to do so because i know how much it pisses you off to have that crushing playoff season ending defeat thrown up in your face .no matter what happens in week two its only a regular season game and there is no revenge for a playoff loss lol .if your lucky maybe your pathetic team will have the honor and privilege of losing to the pats again .i like you so why don't you pm me with your address and ill send you some of my used toilet paper for you to wash your face with lol i know you will like that .

 

[Double G]

Charge, or rather Doofus; paragraphs and spellcheck are your friends you turd.

Charger fans have "that date" circled; so IF you win the game, that will make up for the choke job you pulled in the playoffs? Gotta love that logic. What a tool.

 

[evendelae]

LOL. SURE there wasn't.

From
http://www.profootballtalk.com/9-16-04through9-30-04.htm

There's speculation running rampant in league circles that Marvin Demoff, who represented Broncos quarterback John Elway during his playing career, is the agent who donated $100,000 to charity as part of the resolution of the NFL's investigation into allegations that the Broncos circumvented the salary cap from 1996 to 1998 by deferring compensation for several players and by promising not to waive at least one player prior to a certain date, essentially converting a roster bonus into a guaranteed payment that should have been prorated over the remaining life of his contract.

On Thursday, the NFL announced that it fined the Broncos $950,000 and stripped the team of a third-round pick in the 2005 draft for the salary cap violations.

Elway is the most logical and obvious target of suspicion, since he'd been with the team for more than a decade and was aching to get his fingers on a certain silver football with a stump.

And it's the second time the Broncos have been nailed for their actions during the years that resulted in two opportunities for Elway to fondle the Lombardi. In 2001, the team paid another near-seven-figure fine and coughed up a third-round pick over payments made to Elway and running back Terrell Davis.

Need further proof that Broncos were looking for creative ways to keep Elway on the field and happy with his coin during the latter years of his career? Look no farther than the still-lingering legal battle between Pat Bowlen and former team owner Edgar Kaiser. That brouhaha got started because Bowlen offered Elway -- while he was still on the payroll -- a 10 percent interest in the team for $15 million and another 10 percent share "designed in part to compensate Elway for playing another season and forgoing his planned retirement."

Although Elway didn't take Bowlen up on his offer, the fact that the offer even was made tells us that the Broncos were willing to do whatever they could to keep Elway and a quality supporting cast on the field -- even if it meant giving the players side compensation (in the form of a chunk of the pink slip) or engaging in the activities for which the team already has been slapped, twice.

In fact, we're surprised that the NFL hasn't slapped the Broncos already for offering Elway such thinly-disguised value, which surely would not have been part of Elway's cap number.

Of course the Broncos now insist that they did these things to help with cash flow in connection with the construction of a new stadium, and that they gained no competitive advantage. The easiest way to refute this claim would be to examine the amount of cap room they had left in 1996 through 1998. If they were scraping the ceiling even with the improper payments and promises, then their explanation that they derived no competitive benefit simply isn't credible.

Back to Demoff, we find it somewhat odd that his penalty (if he indeed is the agent who paid the 100 large to charity) wasn't a suspension or a decertification. Though we don't know enough about the specific agent rules to say that a payment to charity is beyond the realm of potential sanctions, we can't recall many/any agents being required to take that route when they run afoul of the rules.

The bottom line is that the Broncos cheated, and that at least one agent and multiple players were in on the ruse. Absent proof that the cap charges in question could have been absorbed without releasing and/or letting other players leave via free agency, our conclusion is that the Broncos' twin silver trophies are tarnished, permanently.

Hope you cheaters are proud of yourselves. All you earned were two asterisks beside your two titles.

What a sad way for Elway to end his career - carrying that team to two TAINTED Super Bowl championships.

NO RESPECT for the cheating Donkeys!

Yes, because the Raider fans that run ProFootballTalk are not biased in any way...

 

[Charge]

Yes Double G! For those like yourself who need it, spellcheck is
a real blessing. Maybe if you got together with your racist
friend Patriotspride, the two of you could string enough words
together to form a coherent sentence. Remember, spellcheck
can only do so much!! On second thought no, please don't get
together, who knows what two dangerously stupid imbeciles like
yourselfs could come up with. I truly hope that Chargers get
to face the Patriots several times in the coming years. But
sadly, I fear that in the coming years it will be difficult for the
aging Patriots to play at a high enough level to be scheduled
against upper tier teams such as the Chargers. But please rest
assured Charger fans are routing for the Patriots so we can
get your revenge over and over again!!!

 

[patriotspride]

I'm a racist and i really don't care who knows it .if you don't like it to bad .i hate the pats because i know they are better than the chargers .truth be told the chargers blew it and deserved to lose .they were 14 and 2 and then lost in the first round and here i am talking smack and embarrassing myself and charger fans everywhere .for this i'm sorry but i'm not sorry for being a racist .!!!

 

[evendelae]

It's pretty easy to tell you did that due to the fact that you still haven't figured out how to space periods...:snob:

 

[Double G]

Just the fact that you consider the Patriots to be an "aging" team tells me you don't know a friggin thing about football. Keep clinging to that line of logic; next you'll spout off about how lucky the Patriots were to beat your pack of stiffs AT HOME, the team that was favored to win the Super Bowl.

Wow, what a kick in the balls that must have been for you to see your team choke that game away you pimple on the ass of humanity.

Now go practice your big line for work tomorrow; "would you like fries with that?"

 

[patriotspride]

It' just dawned on me that im spending alot of time on a patriots board .and i have to ask myself why?:

thats a good question ..

 

[evendelae]

thats a good question ..

Maybe because I just heard that rap song Merriweather did and was so disgusted I happened to stumble in here.

 

[Charge]

Patriotspride and Double G are angry low class scum! Right, Double G,
you are obviously a very sophisticated guy. You are so a brilliant
that you create your vocabulary. Unfortunately, I just can't dumb
myself down enough to understand it! And why would anyone want
to bring themselves down to you and your racist friend's level. Sorry
Patriotspride, I am trying use as many one syllable words as possible
here. And for you Double G, I have tried to stay away from more
complex grammer cases such as possessive pronouns and the
accusative. I even tried to limit the use of adjectives! I am sure
that nearly all Patriots fans would be appalled by your behavior on
this board!!!

 

[Coast2CoastPatsFan]

Nice to see you back RS; now go and slap that douchebag Ballsack4ever around, the annoying pain in the balls Doofin fan that he is................

RS,

It shouldn't require much effort slapping this AquaPinhead4Ever mental midget around. Kinda like shooting fish in a barrel. I've seen this clown's act since day one and it hasn't been pretty. A real piece of work. First he comes onto a rivals message board making a complete arse out of himself talking boatloads of smack about the Doofins winning it all, Culpepper better than Brady, yada yada. Then tries to backpeddle when his trash talk blows up in his face. He even goes and welches on a bet when his POS team couldn't back up his big mouth. Real class act. So after his team finishes another brutal season Numbnuts disappears for a short while, only to return to take more well deserved abuse. To top it off, he even has conversations with himself posing as another poster. To call this clown an idiot would be a great disservice to all the idiots in this world. Have fun RS.

 

[Charge]

Thanks evendelae! I appreciate you pointing out that Patriotspride
created a fake post by me! Being the lowlife racist scum that he is,
we should not be surprised. Now we know that he is a dishonest
cheat! You are now the second person on this board to point out his
inability to use proper grammer or punctuation. He really is so stupid!
By now everyone on this board should know that he is the only one
capable of such a poorly written incoherent post. Partriotspride, why
don't you run to your buddy Double G. Being the noble scholar that he
is, I'm sure he'll support this kind of behaviour!!

 

[patriotspride]

I'm a racist pig and i don't care who knows about it! god I'm so pissed that the chargers lost to the patriots .it drives me crazy .

why do you hate people just because they are different from you?that makes no sense .you are the lowest dude.

 

[RS]

Yes, because the Raider fans that run ProFootballTalk are not biased in any way...

Of course. Can't think of a rebuttal, so attack the source. LOL.

Do Raider fans run NFL.COM too?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7687802

Bronco fans really have no business talking smack to Pats fans. The Pats earned each of their three titles fair and square, and the Broncos had to cheat to win theirs. The Broncos beat the Patriots in the playoffs in January of 2006, thanks in no small part to some, um, "interesting" officiating. And of course the Broncos choked away a playoff spot by losing to the 49ers of all teams, on the last game of the 2006 season. LMFAO! That just kills me every time I think about it.

SHAME on Donko fan for being proud of a bunch of cheaters!

 

[RS]

Patriotspride and Double G are angry low class scum! Right, Double G,
you are obviously a very sophisticated guy. You are so a brilliant
that you create your vocabulary. Unfortunately, I just can't dumb
myself down enough to understand it! And why would anyone want
to bring themselves down to you and your racist friend's level. Sorry
Patriotspride, I am trying use as many one syllable words as possible
here. And for you Double G, I have tried to stay away from more
complex grammer cases such as possessive pronouns and the
accusative. I even tried to limit the use of adjectives! I am sure
that nearly all Patriots fans would be appalled by your behavior on
this board!!!

LOL.

Typical. Can't deny the fact that the New England Patriots exposed your fraud team as the whiny choking numbskulls they really are. So the best you can do is resort to personal attacks and nitpicking grammar. Paragon of the owned.

SAN-DI-E-GO-SUPER-CHOK-ERS!
SAN-DI-E-GO-SUPER-CHOK-ERS!
SAN-DI-E-GO-SUPER-CHOK-ERS!
SAN-DI-E-GO-SUPER-CHOK-ERS!

 

[RS]

RS,

It shouldn't require much effort slapping this AquaPinhead4Ever mental midget around. Kinda like shooting fish in a barrel. I've seen this clown's act since day one and it hasn't been pretty. A real piece of work. First he comes onto a rivals message board making a complete arse out of himself talking boatloads of smack about the Doofins winning it all, Culpepper better than Brady, yada yada. Then tries to backpeddle when his trash talk blows up in his face. He even goes and welches on a bet when his POS team couldn't back up his big mouth. Real class act. So after his team finishes another brutal season Numbnuts disappears for a short while, only to return to take more well deserved abuse. To top it off, he even has conversations with himself posing as another poster. To call this clown an idiot would be a great disservice to all the idiots in this world. Have fun RS.

Hey C2C,

I will.

Culpepper better than Brady?? At WHAT? Fumbling? Getting hurt? LOL. Well if it's one of those things then maybe he's got a point. LOL.