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There have been several post game threads already, so because I will try not to repeat what's been said, this one should be a short edition......relatively ( )
1. I can't say it too many times how impressive this win was. This is a good Bills team, especially on defense, coming off a huge road win against a good team, and playing in an electric environment, very similar to the one they saw in KC. And that's not even considering the injuries.
2. C'mon. Admit it. Didn't your heart sink, or cringe when you realized that for most of the game the OG's for the Pats were going to be Kline and Devey.....along with popular punching bag, Ryan Wendell at C. At that point even 20 points seemed like a pipe dream, let alone 37, with a lot left on the table. I know I did.
3. A few weeks ago many wondered if the current OL coach was competent. Well today's game should have answered that question permanently. Not only did he get 2 backups ready to play what is unquestionably one of the top 3 DLines in the league, he had to make another early game adjustment when he lost Connolly for the game. That's good coaching.....especially against a top DL with perhaps the best DT combination in the leay gue in KWilliams and Dareus.
4. Hughes DID beat Solder on one speed rush for a hit on Brady, but clearly on the sack on the PAP, there was a missed assignment that caused Solder to step inside. Hughes was on Hooman's inside shoulder, so either Solder complete blew his assignment, or Hooman was supposed to hit him before going out. Solder is likely to get killed this week, but given there were 37 pass attempts.....erring on 2 or 3 isn't horrible.
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5. If you want to criticize the OL, the run blocking truly sucked and the Pats couldn't get even one RB to average even 3 yds/carry. That area needs to be looked at regardless who who is carrying the ball.
6. I know that everyone will comment on Revis essentially shutting down the great Sammy Watkins (2 for 27, and really only one that mattered), but it should be noted that Revis WASN'T in man coverage the entire time. I noticed that on several occasions he looked like he was in man coverage and dropped off into a zone. I was fine with that, because I believe in the importance of sometimes looking like one thing and then being in another. Kudos to the DC
7. I was totally irate at half time with the officials. It was clear to me that Gronk had control of the ball and that play NEVER should have been overturned. Plus there were several clear holds on Wilfolk and Ninko that were missed, and the one the sent me over the edge was negating a great pass to Lafell, by calling a hold on Cannon. The only reason Cannon might have had to hold Hughes was because Hughes was a full step off side. So in essence he was rewarded for his cheating on the snap.
But like with most things in the NFL, we got our share of calls in the 2nd half. There was one PI that was really weak, and one hold that could have been ignored. However I would point out to my Buffalo fan friends that the pick call was correct, even though there wasn't much contact. Don't forget that picking is illegal. Its not the NBA. You are not supposed to run pick plays in the NFL. What "supposed" to happen is that if 2 WR's in running their routes happen to force DB's to run into eachother, then too bad. Woods was clearly there to pick Dennard, and that was the right call.
To my Patriot fan friends, don't be outraged on the 2pt extra point, like I was at first. While it is true the ball NEVER crossed the plane, it didn't have to. When the receiver caught the ball, his FEET were in the endzone. IIRC, that is the only time where the ball doesn't have to cross the plane.
8. To this point of the season, the injury gods were relatively kind to the Pats, with only minor injuries keeping players out. However, we better start getting used to not seeing Ridely and Mayo for the rest of this season. I would be very surprised if we see either again, and its a crying shame. Next man up. Its time to see how good or bad Robert White truly is, because he is the next man up. On defense the job will be much harder to fill, since Mayo not only made plays, he often erased any mistakes made by others. Lets see who makes the leap.
9. Over 360 yds and only 1 of them credited to Tim Wright. It looked to me that he wasn't part of this week's game plan, and it was by design. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he played less than 1o snaps on the offense. I'm OK with it. It will take time to him truly to be integrated into the offense. He will have his time to shine again.
10. Brian Tyms is another matter. He has CONSISTENTLY shown that he can go up and win contested footballs, both today and all through PS. Aaron Dobson is someone we HOPE will eventually be a deep threat. Brian Tyms is one right NOW!. And its a great aspect to have. One we haven't had since Randy Moss left the building. This will be great down the road if he progresses
11. On the negative side, which is probably a nit pick. Brady's 15 yd pass to Hooman brings out a kind of sore point for me. If you recall the play, Brady had a huge amount of time and looked at Hooman at least 2 times before he finally threw him the ball. Clearly he was wide open for a long time. It was like Brady didn't want to go to him and only in desperation reluctantly made the pass. It is my belief that Brady does this too often, ignoring wide open RB's and secondary receivers to his own detriment. Often teams know this and will ignore the receivers that Brady continually ignores.
I wish he would use his RB's and alternative receivers more than he does. For example if you watch the play where they say Gronk didn't have control, you will notice that in the OTHER seam, Wright was even more open than Gronk. I know you can't blame him for targeting Gronk, but his life would be easier if he started to include these secondary guys.
12. Even on a short week, the hapless Jets are making this hard to get up for. I hope the team is doing better than I am. They are still an NFL team and if you doubt my concern, the team most think are playing the best ball in the league (SD)are currently up JUST 30-28 on the team most concede to be the worst in the league (Oak)
13. It does my heart good to see Brian Hoyer and the Browns CRUSH the Steelers. Mike Florio will be especially crabby this week.
1. I can't say it too many times how impressive this win was. This is a good Bills team, especially on defense, coming off a huge road win against a good team, and playing in an electric environment, very similar to the one they saw in KC. And that's not even considering the injuries.
2. C'mon. Admit it. Didn't your heart sink, or cringe when you realized that for most of the game the OG's for the Pats were going to be Kline and Devey.....along with popular punching bag, Ryan Wendell at C. At that point even 20 points seemed like a pipe dream, let alone 37, with a lot left on the table. I know I did.
3. A few weeks ago many wondered if the current OL coach was competent. Well today's game should have answered that question permanently. Not only did he get 2 backups ready to play what is unquestionably one of the top 3 DLines in the league, he had to make another early game adjustment when he lost Connolly for the game. That's good coaching.....especially against a top DL with perhaps the best DT combination in the leay gue in KWilliams and Dareus.
4. Hughes DID beat Solder on one speed rush for a hit on Brady, but clearly on the sack on the PAP, there was a missed assignment that caused Solder to step inside. Hughes was on Hooman's inside shoulder, so either Solder complete blew his assignment, or Hooman was supposed to hit him before going out. Solder is likely to get killed this week, but given there were 37 pass attempts.....erring on 2 or 3 isn't horrible.
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5. If you want to criticize the OL, the run blocking truly sucked and the Pats couldn't get even one RB to average even 3 yds/carry. That area needs to be looked at regardless who who is carrying the ball.
6. I know that everyone will comment on Revis essentially shutting down the great Sammy Watkins (2 for 27, and really only one that mattered), but it should be noted that Revis WASN'T in man coverage the entire time. I noticed that on several occasions he looked like he was in man coverage and dropped off into a zone. I was fine with that, because I believe in the importance of sometimes looking like one thing and then being in another. Kudos to the DC
7. I was totally irate at half time with the officials. It was clear to me that Gronk had control of the ball and that play NEVER should have been overturned. Plus there were several clear holds on Wilfolk and Ninko that were missed, and the one the sent me over the edge was negating a great pass to Lafell, by calling a hold on Cannon. The only reason Cannon might have had to hold Hughes was because Hughes was a full step off side. So in essence he was rewarded for his cheating on the snap.
But like with most things in the NFL, we got our share of calls in the 2nd half. There was one PI that was really weak, and one hold that could have been ignored. However I would point out to my Buffalo fan friends that the pick call was correct, even though there wasn't much contact. Don't forget that picking is illegal. Its not the NBA. You are not supposed to run pick plays in the NFL. What "supposed" to happen is that if 2 WR's in running their routes happen to force DB's to run into eachother, then too bad. Woods was clearly there to pick Dennard, and that was the right call.
To my Patriot fan friends, don't be outraged on the 2pt extra point, like I was at first. While it is true the ball NEVER crossed the plane, it didn't have to. When the receiver caught the ball, his FEET were in the endzone. IIRC, that is the only time where the ball doesn't have to cross the plane.
8. To this point of the season, the injury gods were relatively kind to the Pats, with only minor injuries keeping players out. However, we better start getting used to not seeing Ridely and Mayo for the rest of this season. I would be very surprised if we see either again, and its a crying shame. Next man up. Its time to see how good or bad Robert White truly is, because he is the next man up. On defense the job will be much harder to fill, since Mayo not only made plays, he often erased any mistakes made by others. Lets see who makes the leap.
9. Over 360 yds and only 1 of them credited to Tim Wright. It looked to me that he wasn't part of this week's game plan, and it was by design. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he played less than 1o snaps on the offense. I'm OK with it. It will take time to him truly to be integrated into the offense. He will have his time to shine again.
10. Brian Tyms is another matter. He has CONSISTENTLY shown that he can go up and win contested footballs, both today and all through PS. Aaron Dobson is someone we HOPE will eventually be a deep threat. Brian Tyms is one right NOW!. And its a great aspect to have. One we haven't had since Randy Moss left the building. This will be great down the road if he progresses
11. On the negative side, which is probably a nit pick. Brady's 15 yd pass to Hooman brings out a kind of sore point for me. If you recall the play, Brady had a huge amount of time and looked at Hooman at least 2 times before he finally threw him the ball. Clearly he was wide open for a long time. It was like Brady didn't want to go to him and only in desperation reluctantly made the pass. It is my belief that Brady does this too often, ignoring wide open RB's and secondary receivers to his own detriment. Often teams know this and will ignore the receivers that Brady continually ignores.
I wish he would use his RB's and alternative receivers more than he does. For example if you watch the play where they say Gronk didn't have control, you will notice that in the OTHER seam, Wright was even more open than Gronk. I know you can't blame him for targeting Gronk, but his life would be easier if he started to include these secondary guys.
12. Even on a short week, the hapless Jets are making this hard to get up for. I hope the team is doing better than I am. They are still an NFL team and if you doubt my concern, the team most think are playing the best ball in the league (SD)are currently up JUST 30-28 on the team most concede to be the worst in the league (Oak)
13. It does my heart good to see Brian Hoyer and the Browns CRUSH the Steelers. Mike Florio will be especially crabby this week.
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