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Actually, Vellano didn't get his first QB pressure until week four and only had five total by the time Kelly went down.

My point is not that Vellano is better than Jones though, just that it's not cut and dried that Jones is better than Vellano which tends to be an accepted view.
See that's the kind of stuff we don't get enough of on the main board. Count me among those who just took for granted that CJones was better than Vallano. Now its something to watch in TC and adds a little bit more depth at the DT position.

But the bottom line is not whether Jones is better than Vallano or visa versa. Its whether either have the talent to be an impact starter in the NFL. We need to grab one of these in the draft
 
My point is not that Vellano is better than Jones though, just that it's not cut and dried that Jones is better than Vellano which tends to be an accepted view.

What they did last Year is only one Component of what to expect of them in the Future.

I like Vellano as much as the next guy and more than most.

I just consider Jones to have considerably more UpSide.

We'll see, though. They were both thrown into the Fire with little warning. What they show this coming Year, with a full Spring & Summer to learn our System, will tell us a great deal about their Prospects.
 
See that's the kind of stuff we don't get enough of on the main board. Count me among those who just took for granted that CJones was better than Vallano. Now its something to watch in TC and adds a little bit more depth at the DT position.

But the bottom line is not whether Jones is better than Vallano or visa versa. Its whether either have the talent to be an impact starter in the NFL. We need to grab one of these in the draft

OTOH, if Vellano is the better player, why was he the #3 DL at the end of the season, behind Jones and Siliga?

My personal take is that all three—Jones, Siliga, and Vellano—can be valuable contributors in 2014.
 
Chris Jones had nothing left in the tank by season's end, but Vellano had nothing in the tank
from the beginning. On multiple occasions after getting spun around on a running play, he
would be shown on replay looking at the zebras for help instead of following the runner and
trying to help make a tackle, for a change.

I will be very, very, very disappointed if Vellano is on the Opening Day 53.
 
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Please allow me to preface this by mentioning that I absolutely worship this guy. I love the way he plays FootBall, I love his Sustained Dedication to the 1000's of little things that he's done to sustain his Greatness and his Health, I love his Dedication to'is Mates and his Wife...And I love the way he goes about everything.

And I'm damned if I consider a cold-blooded straight-out Cut to be the best way to go with someone who's done so much to forge our Legacy...and who has meant and continues to mean so much to New EngLand.

This is my Take on a difficult subject...

If my understanding of Vince Wilfork's 5 Year/$40,000,000 Contrat that he's currently playing under is correct, he essentially signed a 4 Year Deal with a Team Option for the 5th Year, the latter of which is 2014.

It's perfectly common: He raked in $25,000,000 in absolutely well deserved Guarantees, those being the $18,000,000 Signing Bonus ~ in March of 2010 ~ and the ensuing 3 Years Salaries, with Salaries of $7,500,000 each in 2013 and 2014, neither of which was guaranteed.

My point being: Vince Wilfork is an intelligent man who understood the Darwinian nature of the Salary Cap, and signed that Contract with the full understanding that Salary Cap considerations ~ the ProRated Signing Bonus ~ effectively guaranteed the 2013 Salary, but that either poor performance or Injury would almost certainly render the 2014 Year Null & Void.

And so it is.

Point being: Vince Wilfork neither warrants nor, I'm quite confident, wishes for our Pity. Paying Players lofty Salaries out of Sentiment or misplaced Appreciation ~ though God knows any Patriots fan worships this guy ~ when they've already been lucratively rewarded, is the fastest way I can imagine to transform an annual Super Bowl Team into a Lottery Team.

Vince Wilfork earned every penny of those 4 Years and the Bonus. I'm glad he got it, and gratefull for'is phenomenal Play, over the last Decade. And I would also add that if Coach Bill hadn't persisted in his idiotically abusive insistence on playing Wilfork on virtually every freaking Down for the last 2 or 3 Years ~ a Practice which I repeatedly warned would come to a traumatic and disastrous end ~ then we'd probably not be having this Discussion, as Wilfork would probably never have suffered the Catastrophic Injury which I repeatedly warned against.

But It Is What It Is.

What remains to be done now is of course to look forward and evaluate Potential Costs and Potential Benefits.

Achilles Injuries are taking smaller bites out of Player's Careers than they used to, but unless you're Adrian Peterson, I'm expecting that your first Year back is going to be what I term a Recovery Year ~ one in which you gradually get stronger and incrementally recover the Power and Agility ~ hopefully all of it, if you're young enough ~ that you previously enjoyed.

In English: It would be foolish to expect Vince Wilfork to regain his former form until 2015...and in 2015 he will turn 34.

Players tend to peak at around 30, though some ~ like Wilfork ~ sustain an high level of Efficacy well beyond that age.

But Wilfork was already showing signs, earlier this Year, that the excessive wear and tear of far too many Snaps for far too many Games had finally combined with the advancing Years, at long last, to slow'm down.

Whether or not Wilfork makes it back for the 2014 Campaign is an open question, though my money's on him. And I like his Chances of playing for another 2 or 3 Years, preferably on half the Snaps, and playing effectively.

But I also expect far less than the Dominance of the last Decade.

It stands to reason, yes?

If we were to simply cut Vince Wilfork loose, I don't expect that he'd get much more than the Vet Minimum.

But neither would I wish to play HardBall with a guy who's given so much to build and enrich the Legacy of this Team.

I'd like to offer the guy a 3 Year Contract ~ technically a Restructure ~ for $2,500,000 each, and even pile on Incentives of the Not Likely To Be Earned kind for Snaps and a combination of Snaps & Championships.

That would neatly carve 2/3 of this Year's negotiable Cap Impact Dollars from the Cap, a cool $5,000,000.

And it wouldn't commit a single future Penny, yet would retain his Services for 3 Years if he returns to effective Play, as I expect, and allowing us the option of cutting him, if Gods Forbid, he doesn't recover well enough.

Some will foolishly look at that as his playing the 2nd and 3rd Year for free, considering the $7,500,000 that he's nominally slotted to earn this Year. But of course the Reality is that money is already vapor.

I'd just like to state for the record that it is a great pleasure to count myself among those of you who are giddy with happiness and joy and who are jacked that we re-upped Vince Wilfork!! :D
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1 ~ There's no need to rub it in the face of anyone who was "assuming" we'd cut'm and then danced with bitter glee when they foolishly believed their assumptions confirmed. They made their own graves. :D

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~ OK. Maybe a little!!
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I'd just like to state for the record that it is a great pleasure to count myself among those of you who are giddy with happiness and joy and who are jacked that we re-upped Vince Wilfork!! :D
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1 ~ There's no need to rub it in the face of anyone who was "assuming" we'd cut'm and then danced with bitter glee when they foolishly believed their assumptions confirmed. They made their own graves. :D

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~ OK. Maybe a little!!
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You also nailed the contract terms. Well done ol' chap!
 
That is a Horrible times Infinity contract to which Bill stupidly signed Wilfork.
Words cannot fully describe just how pissed-off I was the entire weekend, thanks to
the 2 worst contracts signed during the entire free agency period.
The Pats have officially committed 2014 suicide.
 
That is a Horrible times Infinity contract to which Bill stupidly signed Wilfork.
Words cannot fully describe just how pissed-off I was the entire weekend, thanks to
the 2 worst contracts signed during the entire free agency period.
The Pats have officially committed 2014 suicide.

See you in 2015, then.
 
I'd just like to say: Woot, woot!! :D

Dominique Easley was exactly #1 on my list of guys I wanted at #29 ~ and I don't believe I was the only one!! Congratulations to my Fellow Patriots Fanatics who prayed for Easley at #29!! :D

...And Congratulations to us all, for Mad Bill just seized a Top 10 Talent at #29!! :D
 
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It was good to hear that James Amdrews performed the acl surgeries. I got a feeling he is going to be good as new. Big difference between tearing your acl in your early 20s rather than in your 30s and 40s for all the detractors.
 
As I said in the draft thread, Bill should've accepted Minnesota's offer of 40 & 108 for 29. Easley likely still would've been available, if not at 62 itself.
 
As I said in the draft thread, Bill should've accepted Minnesota's offer of 40 & 108 for 29. Easley likely still would've been available, if not at 62 itself.

Your a hard poster to figure out sometimes. You have been lobbying for a pass rush and they deliver one to the team and your still not happy.

Think about it. The Pats believed so strongly in his ability that they took him at 29 rather than trading back because they were afraid they would lose him. He must of really impressed at his workout and by all accounts was one of the top penetrating inside lineman in this draft. I'd be willing to bet this workout only reinforced the pick.

Ideally yes, that trade would of made a lot of sense but IMO there are only a handful of DTs who can do what Donald and Easley can do and they got one of them. Looking back if they did trade back and lost out on Easley to another team I would of been disappointed. Ellis,Sutton and Kerr would of been possible considerations but no where near as high profile and explosive as Easley. They still may take a flyer on one of those 3 btw. I hope they do anyway.

I'm guessing you are ok with the player, just not where he was selected?
 
Your a hard poster to figure out sometimes. You have been lobbying for a pass rush and they deliver one to the team and your still not happy.

Think about it. The Pats believed so strongly in his ability that they took him at 29 rather than trading back because they were afraid they would lose him. He must of really impressed at his workout and by all accounts was one of the top penetrating inside lineman in this draft. I'd be willing to bet this workout only reinforced the pick.

Ideally yes, that trade would of made a lot of sense but IMO there are only a handful of DTs who can do what Donald and Easley can do and they got one of them. Looking back if they did trade back and lost out on Easley to another team I would of been disappointed. Ellis,Sutton and Kerr would of been possible considerations but no where near as high profile and explosive as Easley. They still may take a flyer on one of those 3 btw. I hope they do anyway.

I'm guessing you are ok with the player, just not where he was selected?

My draft day pet peeve is the, "he'd still be available at pick ...." crowd. First off, there is no absolute way for anyone to know that. Typically before the draft, this crowd generally bashes draftniks and big boards then,post draft, flips the script and uses the same information to claim a player is a "reach ". Truly maddening.
 
As I said in the draft thread, Bill should've accepted Minnesota's offer of 40 & 108 for 29. Easley likely still would've been available, if not at 62 itself.

So you don't believe the reports about the Seahawks wanting to take him at #32 ?
 
Nice write up, the defense really needed a player like this.
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Thanks, Brother John...And I couldn't agree more!!

I would've been happy with a few other guys, but getting a guy like Easley, who can set a bomb off in the Offensive BackField on any given Play, offers, I believe, the greatest Impact.

His disruptive, terrifying Presence makes all other Defenders ~ all 10 of them ~ far more Dangerous.
 
I'd just like to say for the record that I consider the Jimmy Garappolo Pick to've been a mistake.

He Easons under Pressure a little too frequently for my taste.

Even so: I believe there's something there.

I was actually an early proponent of Jimmy G, and remain very fond of the lad.

He Uses The Whole Pig, for one thing...and I'm absolutely crazy about that SlingShot Delivery.

And he steps up in Big Games.

But that Easoning under Pressure scares the crap out'f me.

I love this kid...and believe he has the Potential to excel as a Field General at The Next Level.

It's just that I perceive an enormous level of Risk attached to drafting'm...

As such, I would've liked him far more in the 4th or 5th Round, or beyond.

And there are many, many Prospects I would've preferred at #62.
 
I echo your thoughts completely OTG on Garappolo. He might actually be a very nice QB in the NFL, and 4 or 5 years from now I might be very happy the Pats drafted him in 2014. HOWEVER, we've already "wasted" a Friday pick for Ryan Mallett (who will likely never take a significant snap for the Pats and his lasting value might end up being a comp pick in 2016 who turns into a contributor). Now we've compounded THAT pick with one that's even higher. :mad:

There were so many possible choices at #62 at LB, OL, TE, WR, etc who had a real chance to be a contributor in 2014 and a starter in 2015 and beyond. Instead we get a guy that barring injury, isn't going to contribute anything until 2017 or beyond. It makes no sense.

I don't care if he was a good "value" at #62. You draft players who can make a contribution. As of now the biggest contribution Garappolo is going to make to the 2014, 2015, and 2016 Pats teams is playing the "athletic QB" on scout teams. THAT is NOT value for the 62nd pick in the draft.
 
My draft day pet peeve is the, "he'd still be available at pick ...." crowd. First off, there is no absolute way for anyone to know that. Typically before the draft, this crowd generally bashes draftniks and big boards then,post draft, flips the script and uses the same information to claim a player is a "reach ". Truly maddening.

I think the "he'd still be available at pick ...." crowd was pretty accurate regarding Tavon Wilson
 


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