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[Patriot Missile]

I know. And he was originally recruited to Virginia Tech as a TE, so it's not like he's a pure conversion project.

4.57 2nd run, BTW.

How was he used in college? I'm interested.

 

[manxman2601]

Kyle Fuller is 6' on the nose but has 33" arms :rocker:

Dennard only has 30" arms.

 

[everlong]

What about Kelly and Armstead?

We know nothing about Armstead. He's never played a down. Kelly being 33 and returning from an ACL we know nothing of how effective he'll be. I probably should have said players that were on the roster at the end of the year or players that will definitely be on the 2014 roster.

 

[Deus Irae]

Who are the other 3 in that rotation?

Given the current situation, you're looking at Mayo/Hightower as the other LBs and some combination of Kelly/Wilfork/Silaga along the line.

The problem with the run was never an outside the tackles issue. They were gutting the Pats right up the middle when wilfork and Kelly went down. Hopefully Wilfork, Kelly and Armstead come back at full strength and I think that remedies your worries. Having Donald in there in passing situations is ideal to me and it's not like he has proven to be unreliable in that area. Just not great. That is the kind of depth I want on this team.

Jones isn't good taking on the run.
Collins is a disaster taking on the run.
Ninkovich can set the edge, but he can't really hold up taking on the run.
Armstead hasn't played in so long that counting on him is folly, especially since he's never done a thing in the NFL.
Gregory and McCourty are not a run tackling safety pair.

BB would basically be hoping that Hightower/Mayo/DT2 would be enough to make up for about 6 weak run defenders who can chase but can't really defend head on.

 

[patsinthesnow]

6'6
248 lbs.
4.57 forty
1.59 split
11" hands

That would be a first round TE. Thomas is a freak of a prospect, I really hope we draft Manx's binky.

 

[mayoclinic]

Lyerla, Thomas and Henderson all in the 6th round is my guilty pleasure.

My latest "guilty pleasure" mock:

- Alex Mack and one of Michael Johnson/Carlos Dunlap in FA, along with Talib re-signed.

- Mallett for 33.
- 33 and 126 to SF for 61, 77 and 94 (Wilfork #75's trade).

29. Aaron Donald, DT
61. Best avaiable TE: ASJ, Niklas or Amaro.
62. Best available defender: Marcus Smith DE/OLB or Bashaud Breeland, CB.
Trade 93 for 102 and 136.
Trade 94 for 104 and 138.
102. Antone Exum, DB, My SS to pair with McCourty.
104. Justin Ellis, NT
136. Cyrus Kouandjio, OL. Assuming he does a free-fall.
138. Logan Thomas, QB/TE
- Trade 6a and 6b for a late 5th.
5c. Tyler Starr (if Breeland at 62) / Aaron Colvin (if Smith at 62).
6 (comp). Moon shot: Chris Boyd.
7. Moon shot: Colt Lyerla.

 

[manxman2601]

We know nothing about Armstead. He's never played a down. Kelly being 33 and returning from an ACL we know nothing of how effective he'll be. I probably should have said players that were on the roster at the end of the year or players that will definitely be on the 2014 roster.

Well I want Kelly, Armstead and Tuitt on the roster next year. That OL would be clearly capable of running a 3-4. But, it's not like they'd be running it all the time because they'll be spending much of the time in sub. The point is that these 3-4 types offer the versatility that someone like a traditional 6'2" 3-tech doesn't.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Jeff Janis just made cash homie.

 

[mayoclinic]

Kyle Fuller is 6' on the nose but has 33" arms :rocker:

Dennard only has 30" arms.

Bashaud Breeland 5'11" 197#, 31 3/4" arms, 9" hands.
Calvin Pryor 5'11 (!!), 207#, 31 3/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands.
Justin Gilbert 6' 202#, 33 1/8" arms, 8 5/8" hands.
Ha-ha Clint Dix 6'1" 208#, 32 3/8" arms, 9" hands

 

[patsinthesnow]

Landry with a 4.65. Excelllllent.

Marqise Lee 4.50. Good, go slower on the next go please.

 

[mayoclinic]

Well I want Kelly, Armstead and Tuitt on the roster next year. That OL would be clearly capable of running a 3-4. But, it's not like they'd be running it all the time because they'll be spending much of the time in sub. The point is that these 3-4 types offer the versatility that someone like a traditional 6'2" 3-tech doesn't.

Last year I was 100% on the boat with this. I wanted Desmond Bryant (6'6" 311#), and Kelly was a good backup option. I was ahead of everyone on the Armstead bandwagon.

This year I want disruptive pressure up the middle. I don't much care what size or flavor it comes in.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

My latest "guilty pleasure" mock:

- Alex Mack and one of Michael Johnson/Carlos Dunlap in FA, along with Talib re-signed.

- Mallett for 33.
- 33 and 126 to SF for 61, 77 and 94 (Wilfork #75's trade).

29. Aaron Donald, DT
61. Best avaiable TE: ASJ, Niklas or Amaro.
62. Best available defender: Marcus Smith DE/OLB or Bashaud Breeland, CB.
Trade 93 for 102 and 136.
Trade 94 for 104 and 138.
102. Antone Exum, DB, My SS to pair with McCourty.
104. Justin Ellis, NT
136. Cyrus Kouandjio, OL. Assuming he does a free-fall.
138. Logan Thomas, QB/TE
- Trade 6a and 6b for a late 5th.
5c. Tyler Starr (if Breeland at 62) / Aaron Colvin (if Smith at 62).
6 (comp). Moon shot: Chris Boyd.
7. Moon shot: Colt Lyerla.

Is this where Exum is slated to go now?

Last year I was 100% on the boat with this. I wanted Desmond Bryant (6'6" 311#), and Kelly was a good backup option. I was ahead of everyone on the Armstead bandwagon.

This year I want disruptive pressure up the middle. I don't much care what size or flavor it comes in.

Chocolate, Irish Chocolate.

 

[mayoclinic]

Is this where Exum is slated to go now?

I have no idea. He was probably a day 2 prospect before his injuries. He could climb back up that far, but I don't think he's there yet. A number of people have predicted he will be a riser after the Combine, so I didn't feel comfortable mocking him in the 6th round, so I compromised. I thought it was reasonable, for now, but it's just a guess.

 

[mayoclinic]

Here comes Sammy Watkins ... 4.34, 1.53 10 yard split.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

I have no idea. He was probably a day 2 prospect before his injuries. He could climb back up that far, but I don't think he's there yet. A number of people have predicted he will be a riser after the Combine, so I didn't feel comfortable mocking him in the 6th round, so I compromised. I thought it was reasonable, for now, but it's just a guess.

I like Exum as a safety project, but I wouldn't draft a project that high.

 

[Deus Irae]

Here comes Sammy Watkins ... 4.34, 1.53 10 yard split.

Certainly didn't hurt his draft stock with that....

 

[Patriot Missile]

Here comes Sammy Watkins ... 4.34, 1.53 10 yard split.

Yep, he should fall right about 29 or so

 

[mayoclinic]

I like Exum as a safety project, but I wouldn't draft a project that high.

I don't think he's much of a project. He played safety for 2 years, and he can step right in to a CB rotation. I'm comfortable with him as "depth" for 1 year, becoming a starter in his 2nd year. That's a day 2 value, to me.

 

[mayoclinic]

Landry with a 4.65. Excelllllent.

Marqise Lee 4.50. Good, go slower on the next go please.

Lee 4.44 second run. Respectable, if not blazing.

Landry reportedly with a calf injury, won't attempt a 2nd run.

 

[everlong]

Well I want Kelly, Armstead and Tuitt on the roster next year. That OL would be clearly capable of running a 3-4. But, it's not like they'd be running it all the time because they'll be spending much of the time in sub. The point is that these 3-4 types offer the versatility that someone like a traditional 6'2" 3-tech doesn't.

So you don't want Donald?

I don't want to return to a two gap 3-4, at all. If they wanted to go to more of a one gapping pressure 3-4 I could be convinced but what would be their 3-4 OLB's that are on the roster in Jones and Nink don't fit the mold.