2013 Wide Receiver Watch

[Off The Grid]

I do see what you and Mayo see in him, I really do. But this last part that I bolded is the crux for me.

I've alluded to it before. Is it better to take a player who is falling for reasons other than injury or better take a prospect who appears to be on the rise? It's a philosophical approach to the draft. Taking a falling player like Hunter is certainly a way to get value. I agree with you, a perfect Justin Hunter is a top 5 guy. But if all those teams are passing on him because of his flaws, why do we think he'd be good for the Pats? The flaws will still be there. We're either putting a lot of faith in our locker room and coaching or we're putting a lot of faith in luck. On the other hand, a player on the rise is doing so because of discovered positives. Perhaps a more detailed analysis of game tape shows how good he really is, he demonstrates plus athletic prowess, a small schooler performs well when elevated to a higher level in a Bowl game. Sometimes, this can let you do (combine stars for example), but generally the player is rising for positive reasons.

It's a philosophical issue and both arguments have merits. The risky value approach of drafting a faller or taking the player who has exceeded your earlier expectations. Personally I think the latter approach is more likely to find the more productive player. For example,

I'm glad we drafted 'riser' Chandler Jones rather than 'faller' Courtney Upshaw.

Yes, but I, myself, am delighted that we drafted Cataclysmic Collapse Faller Alfonzo Dennard.

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That said, you bring unique focus to an important philosophical Point...

And my answer would be: Case By Case Basis.

Judgement.

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1 ~ Sometimes a Prospect rockets all the way from UFA to 1st Round...and is still a Bargain.

2 ~ Sometimes a Prospect plummets all the way from 1st Round to UFA...and is still OverValued.

On the other hand...

1 ~ Sometimes a Prospect is OverValued in the 1st Round ~ indeed, I wrote up Dennard, himself, as OverValued just about 1 year ago, when he was generally projected thither ~ and is a phenomenal steal in the 7th.

2 ~ And sometimes a guy gets too much air under'm, and rockets North well beyond his True Value...as for instance any number of QuarterBacks do, each and every year...and indeed this coming year could be historic in that regard.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Hunter sounds too raw to be taken in the 2nd round. I might be tempted once we reach round 4 or later. But he sounds like a real project. He needs to polish his fundamentals of route running as well as catching techinque. Then again you can't teach 6'4 200 lbs with speed. So that's why I'd be willing to take a look at him in the first place.

So what about Hopkins or Austin? With Hopkins you might be getting a true #1 WR type. With Austin you have a superfast, greased lightning type of player who also returns kicks at an elite level. Reminds me of Desean Jackson.

Patterson however is the most highly rated WR by NFL.com. Hmmm 6'3 is good size too and he can also return kicks? When is he projected to go?

 

[JPsPats]

Im really high on cordarelle patterson from Tennessee. He reminds me of julio jones with his physical play and built body. Not afraid of contact either which is what you want from a big bodied receiver.

 

[captain stone]

Patterson, Hopkins & Austin could all be gone by 29; and even if any of them were available,
I would still be looking at the remaining SSs, OLBs, DLmen & OLmen before I would seriously
consider taking a WR at that spot. The 2nd round, OTOH, should provide a better situation to
match value + need, similar to what should've happened with Golden Tate at 52 in 2010.

 

[MrNathanDrake]

Anyone else really like Robert Woods at the end of Rd1?

He's fallen down draft boards lately. His teammate Hill took a lot of the spotlight and catches away from him.

Damn shame we passed on Woods.

Ultimately only time will tell if we made the right move, but it already looks like Woods is going to be a really good NFL WR.

Woods caught a 43 yard TD pass today.


DeAndre Hopkins was another WR I liked going into the draft and he's tearing it up in Houston.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I'm really hoping we take a DT in round one of the draft.

But in round two I am warming up to Moncreif of Ole Miss.

 

[JerseyShore99]

I'm really hoping we take a DT in round one of the draft.

But in round two I am warming up to Moncreif of Ole Miss.

I personally like Nix a whole lot

 

[captain stone]

Damn shame we passed on Woods.

Ultimately only time will tell if we made the right move, but it already looks like Woods is going to be a really good NFL WR.

Woods caught a 43 yard TD pass today.


DeAndre Hopkins was another WR I liked going into the draft and he's tearing it up in Houston.

Both of those WRs were gone by 52. Keenan Allen, OTOH, was ripe for the picking at both 52 & 59,
and Bill chose Aaron Dropson instead. Un-feckin-believable.

 

[Archeryaddict12]

Both of those WRs were gone by 52. Keenan Allen, OTOH, was ripe for the picking at both 52 & 59,
and Bill chose Aaron Dropson instead. Un-feckin-believable.

Dobson hasn't been bad man. He has been pretty good, remember he has to compete for targets with gronk, Edelman and amendola. And you can miss dropson good bye. He has progressed well until his injury in this offense.

 

[BelichickFan]

DeAndre Hopkins was another WR I liked going into the draft and he's tearing it up in Houston.

I like Hopkins too but his numbers are very similar to Dobson's. Hopkins isn't "tearing it up"

Dobson : 10 games, 35-492
Hopkins : 12 games, 41-631 (going into tonight)

per game :

Dobson : 3.5 catches, 49 Yd/Gm
Hopkins : 3.4 catches, 53 Yd/Gm

I guess you can fault Dobson for getting hurt, other than that their numbers are about the same.

 

[Snake Eyes]

Dobson hasn't been bad man. He has been pretty good, remember he has to compete for targets with gronk, Edelman and amendola. And you can miss dropson good bye. He has progressed well until his injury in this offense.

Dobson hasn't been bad but I thought it was crazy to pick him with Keenan Allen on the board, who I thought and still think will be a stud.

 

[Off The Grid]

Dobson hasn't been bad but I thought it was crazy to pick him with Keenan Allen on the board, who I thought and still think will be a stud.

Yeah, I considered it an awful Pick, based on what we the Public knew, and loved Allen.

Won't be my last Mistake, I'm sure, assuming that it turns out to be...

But I still maintain that that Pick would've been much better spent elsewhere.

 

[SeymourTrophies]

I like Hopkins too but his numbers are very similar to Dobson's. Hopkins isn't "tearing it up"

Dobson : 10 games, 35-492
Hopkins : 12 games, 41-631 (going into tonight)

per game :

Dobson : 3.5 catches, 49 Yd/Gm
Hopkins : 3.4 catches, 53 Yd/Gm

I guess you can fault Dobson for getting hurt, other than that their numbers are about the same.

Hopkins was actually on pace for a very good season, then the Texans happened. Hopkins got benched for a handful of games when the coaching staff was trying to make examples of some of the players, and he had done nothing for something like a month before the play against Arrington. I'm not totally off Dobson, but I don't get the impression that he's anything special.