DE Mark Anderson released by Bills

[RayClay]

Not interested in signing him, it takes playing time away from Bequette, Buchanon and Cunningham. Those guys need to step up and show what they have.

But they haven't and that's the point. Why would you refuse to look at someone that might thrive with Jones, because you're worried about hurting the feelings of some that have proved zip?

Competition. Let the best man win!

 

[Rob0729]

I appreciated what Anderson did for the Pats, but I never got the money that the Bills threw at him. He was a bit of an one trick pony. Even if healthy, I never thought he would live up to the contract they paid him.

Even if he is healthy now, I would rather have John Abraham and a larger salary than Anderson now. I am not convinced he could recreate his 2011 season again.

I wouldn't be upset if the Pats picked him up on the cheap, but I definitely wouldn't be upset if they pass.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I appreciated what Anderson did for the Pats, but I never got the money that the Bills threw at him. He was a bit of an one trick pony. Even if healthy, I never thought he would live up to the contract they paid him.

Even if he is healthy now, I would rather have John Abraham and a larger salary than Anderson now. I am not convinced he could recreate his 2011 season again.

I wouldn't be upset if the Pats picked him up on the cheap, but I definitely wouldn't be upset if they pass.

it's the bills...gotta expect some stupid moves

 

[Uncle Meat]

Ok, you went to a terrible team, got overpaid, and sucked. No problem, we welcome you back Mark on the cheap!

10 sacks in 2011 with us, registered a sack in the superbowl. Bring him into camp and throw him in the mix.

Mark Anderson was paid $8 million by the Bills, and he only played in 5 games before he hurt his knee and was out for the season. Like was already stated, he passed his physical. The Bills just flat out didn't want him on the team, which is surprising to me considering that his salary would have been $4 million this year, and cutting him will cost the team $4.6 million in dead cap space: $1.6 million this year, and $3 million next year. His guaranteed money has already been paid to him.

Dunno, but maybe Anderson kicked his game up a notch in his year with the Pats in his last real chance at a big payday. He showed nothing in Buffalo at all, really, and that can't be conveniently dismissed with "the Bills suck."

The Bills do have a completely new defensive scheme this year under former Jets defensive coordinator Mike Pettine, who likes to change things up with versatile players. Could be that he doesn't fit the new scheme somewhat, but that doesn't explain taking that kind of cap hit with nothing in return except not to pay the guy $4 million...again, the cap hit is bigger than that. I'd watch out for players that the Bills don't want...Donald Jones, anybody?

 

[Brady6]

But they haven't and that's the point. Why would you refuse to look at someone that might thrive with Jones, because you're worried about hurting the feelings of some that have proved zip?

Competition. Let the best man win!

I get what you're saying about competitive but I see it as us already 5 players competing for the LE Leo position and 4 players competing for time at the RE position. If we only use 3 strings at practice it become counterproductive to have to much competitors, because it impacts your ability to property asses them.

LE Leo
Ninkovich
Collins
Buchanan
Benard
Vega

RE
C. Jones
Cunningham
Francis
Bequette

 

[Brady6]

He may have, but I agree with your general sentiment. Jermaine isn't a great rushing DE and the team clearly wanted to fill in the UT gap with legitimate DT sized bodies. He'll need to elevate some part of his game along with disappointment/injury somewhere else to get onto the roster.

How much do you think Cunningham weighs in at these days? If he bulked up over last season as reports indicated I'd say he has to be close to 290 maybe even more.

Maybe they don't look at him as a DE anymore, maybe he is here as part of the mix for the 3 technique DT.

 

[RayClay]

I get what you're saying about competitive but I see it as us already 5 players competing for the LE Leo position and 4 players competing for time at the RE position. If we only use 3 strings at practice it become counterproductive to have to much competitors, because it impacts your ability to property asses them.

LE Leo
Ninkovich
Collins
Buchanan
Benard
Vega

RE
C. Jones
Cunningham
Francis
Bequette

That's just silly. They've assessed enough of that bunch. that's why they keep acquiring guys to throw against the wall like spaghetti to see if something sticks.

Amazing when UDFA Francis showed a little spark how they assessed that third round pick Bequette should continue sitting on his ass.

I really don't think you refuse to look at someone who has actually proven to be able to rush the passer so you can have more time to assess all the bodies that haven't, hoping they will someday.

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

Aside from the fact that Cunningham and Anderson are 2 completely different players, you've forgotten that Cunningham's value to this team is as a pass rushing DT in our sub packages, this is a role that Anderson could never perform. It's also note worthy that there is nearly a 6 year age difference.

If Mark Anderson came in he would impact a player like Buchanan the most and I think that would be a negative because Buchanan has a much higher ceiling in my opinion.

I was simply responding to previous posters who were measuring Cunningham's worth against Anderson - as in who would help the team more overall. And while Cunningham found something of a home as an interior rusher last year he was an outside guy until then.

At this point age means less and less to me. Why? Because Brady's window is closing by the second. If Anderson could help the Pats win now I'd cut any of the unproven DE/OLB's.

 

[PatsFan2]

The GM from the Bills should be fired wait...forget I said that. Once a one trick pony always a one trick pony. Mark Anderson is Tully Banta Cane pt.II.

 

[Brady6]

I was simply responding to previous posters who were measuring Cunningham's worth against Anderson - as in who would help the team more overall. And while Cunningham found something of a home as an interior rusher last year he was an outside guy until then.

At this point age means less and less to me. Why? Because Brady's window is closing by the second. If Anderson could help the Pats win now I'd cut any of the unproven DE/OLB's.

I missed the previous post my apologies for inserting myself into this without looking at the entire discussion.

My reference to age was more that I think Anderson has likely diminished in his effectiveness.

 

[Brady6]

That's just silly. They've assessed enough of that bunch. that's why they keep acquiring guys to throw against the wall like spaghetti to see if something sticks.

Amazing when UDFA Francis showed a little spark how they assessed that third round pick Bequette should continue sitting on his ass.

I really don't think you refuse to look at someone who has actually proven to be able to rush the passer so you can have more time to assess all the bodies that haven't, hoping they will someday.

If I believe Anderson at this point in his career could bring anything to this team that anyone of those players listed in previous post couldn't, I'd be more inclined to agree with you.

I think everyone wanted Andre Carter last season, until he showed he had nothing left in Oakland. I suspect the case is the same for Anderson. The Bills gave him a ton of money, 15 months later they already determined it was a mistake.

 

[Kontradiction]

Mark Anderson was paid $8 million by the Bills, and he only played in 5 games before he hurt his knee and was out for the season. Like was already stated, he passed his physical. The Bills just flat out didn't want him on the team, which is surprising to me considering that his salary would have been $4 million this year, and cutting him will cost the team $4.6 million in dead cap space: $1.6 million this year, and $3 million next year. His guaranteed money has already been paid to him.

Dunno, but maybe Anderson kicked his game up a notch in his year with the Pats in his last real chance at a big payday. He showed nothing in Buffalo at all, really, and that can't be conveniently dismissed with "the Bills suck."

The Bills do have a completely new defensive scheme this year under former Jets defensive coordinator Mike Pettine, who likes to change things up with versatile players. Could be that he doesn't fit the new scheme somewhat, but that doesn't explain taking that kind of cap hit with nothing in return except not to pay the guy $4 million...again, the cap hit is bigger than that. I'd watch out for players that the Bills don't want...Donald Jones, anybody?

I wouldn't lump Anderson in with Jones. Anderson had success rushing the passer before coming to New England, and while playing in this scheme. Donald Jones, despite the prognostications by some posters on this forum that he was going to be the next Jerry Rice the day he was signed, never really had much success to speak of while with Buffalo in spite of playing in an offense that didn't exactly have a ton of options in the passing game outside of Johnson.

 

[Danger Zone]

Re: Re: DE Mark Anderson released by Bills

I think everyone wanted Andre Carter last season, until he showed he had nothing left in Oakland. I suspect the case is the same for Anderson. The Bills gave him a ton of money, 15 months later they already determined it was a mistake.

I confess to really wanting Carter back even if it meant one arm dangling down at his side.

I really wanted Waters back too. Maybe I should stop wanting things.

 

[Brady6]

I confess to really wanting Carter back even if it meant one arm dangling down at his side.

I really wanted Waters back too. Maybe I should stop wanting things.

I was standing right next you brother on both of those players. But I don't look at Anderson as that type of player for a number of reasons.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I confess to really wanting Carter back even if it meant one arm dangling down at his side.

I really wanted Waters back too. Maybe I should stop wanting things.

No, just start wanting things more strategically. You know, want the Jets to be good for once, or want the Pats to not win the Super Bowl. Stuff like that.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Anderson is 4 years younger than Carter, so he may be more likely to bounce back from a severe injury. I am still concerned given the fact that the Bills had invested so much in him and still had to let him go outright. Then again they are the Bills

 

[RayClay]

If I believe Anderson at this point in his career could bring anything to this team that anyone of those players listed in previous post couldn't, I'd be more inclined to agree with you.

I think everyone wanted Andre Carter last season, until he showed he had nothing left in Oakland. I suspect the case is the same for Anderson. The Bills gave him a ton of money, 15 months later they already determined it was a mistake.

The Bills make lots of mistakes. Anderson is only 30. who's to say they didn't just make another mistake?

I'd prefer to let the coaches decide, rather than posters based on a hunch.

 

[Brady6]

Anderson is 4 years younger than Carter, so he may be more likely to bounce back from a severe injury. I am still concerned given the fact that the Bills had invested so much in him and still had to let him go outright. Then again they are the Bills

Anderson was a pure speed rusher though, he wasn't a complete DE like Carter who had other attributes to make him effective. Carter was also 31-32 back when he was here.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Anderson was a pure speed rusher though, he wasn't a complete DE like Carter who had other attributes to make him effective. Carter was also 31-32 back when he was here.

We still have no way of knowing unless they actually decide to work him out. If the Abraham thing doesn't happen I would hope they at least take a look.

 

[Deus Irae]

If I believe Anderson at this point in his career could bring anything to this team that anyone of those players listed in previous post couldn't, I'd be more inclined to agree with you.

I think everyone wanted Andre Carter last season, until he showed he had nothing left in Oakland. I suspect the case is the same for Anderson. The Bills gave him a ton of money, 15 months later they already determined it was a mistake.

Andre Carter, coming off of a severe injury and starting the season late, still had as many sacks as Cunningham.