How come we never see injured Pats on the sidelines?

[dannydyn]

Ever wonder how come none of the injured players (inactive for the game) are present on the sidelines? Ray Lewis hasn’t played in weeks but is there every game (even on road games). Clay Mathews…. – same. I remember seeing Urlacher, as well as many other players present on the sidelines. For some reason, I don’t recall ever seeing an injured Pat on the sidelines…. Gronk is nowhere to be seen (unless you follow him on Facebook/Twitter), Hernandez was never on the sidelines while he was recovering, etc.

Any thoughts? Is this something that BB’s won't allow?

 

[DocHoliday]

You know I always wondered that myself...

 

[The Gr8est]

I seem to remember seeing Darrelle Revis and Santonio Holmes scurrying in the exercise wheels on the Rats' sidelines on Spanksgiving evening.

 

[aluminum seats]

I seem to recall that being an old Parcells thing. Namely, if you're hurt, you're not really part of the team/someone to be discussed or considered until you're back.

That sounds negative, but I don't think it is. More just having the guys who are playing realize that, for better or worse, they ARE the team that day.

 

[dannydyn]

That sounds negative, but I don't think it is. More just having the guys who are playing realize that, for better or worse, they ARE the team that day.

That's actually a GREAT point. Never thought of it that way.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Bledsoe did for some games when he was out in 2001 I think, but yeah you don't see that anymore.

 

[DaBruinz]

Ty Law was on the sidelines for the SB with his little leg cart thing..

Troy and Kevin were on the sidelines at times.

But, I believe that it's more about not wanting them to be a distraction.

 

[DarrylS]

When Brady was out, there was some dialogue about if he was on the sideline he risked further injury..

Excuse?? I do not know, but this is a long standing practice for this team.

 

[Sciz]

When Brady was out, there was some dialogue about if he was on the sideline he risked further injury..

Excuse?? I do not know, but this is a long standing practice for this team.

This makes sense. We saw Sean Payton get run over and hurt on the sidelines, and a player with an injury that affects their ability to get out of the way just puts them at more risk.

And I think that in most cases, there's not really anything to gain from having players on the sideline except in Ray Lewis types of cases. Although Vollmer was on the sidelines for the Jets game after being surprisingly inactive.

 

[thenepatsrule]

Maybe it is because the cameras are too busy catching up with our super fast no huddle offense and when the offense is not on the field the cameras as busy showing us -------->

 

[MoLewisrocks]

It's part of the next man up philosophy, and why it seems to work better here than in other instances. In Brady's case it was a conscious decision Bill made to not have him on the sidelines because he didn't want cameras panning or chatter any time Cassel missed a throw. Didn't even want Cassel to see him lurking in those instances. Wanted him to rely on himself and his coaches. Normally a starting QB who is injured will be around to help, and Brady was behind the scenes, but following a season ender as was the case with Brady (and not Bledsoe) they can become fuel in a controversey or undercut the confidence a team (or the player himself) has in a replacement or even interfere with coaching. After a few weeks when Bledsoe was cleared his presence began to spark one, but he also functioned as the #2. And fortunately for Bill the way Brady is wired competitively wasn't going to allow Drew to shake his self confidence or influence him one way or the other. In Bill's book for the most part if you're out you're out.

In a perfect world I'm sure Belichick like them to publicly disappear entirely until they are cleared to play. That seems to be the one thing Gronk has struggled to come to grips with. They were touting him appearing at some local awards dinner on WEEI earlier this week. But maybe the media missed it or he did because I haven't heard a word about it.

 

[SVN]

When Brady was out, there was some dialogue about if he was on the sideline he risked further injury..

Excuse?? I do not know, but this is a long standing practice for this team.

I think brady at some point hinted or someone else did that they didnt want cameras constantly showing brady every time cassel missed a pass or threw an INT. Iam sure same logic applies to some extent for everyone - dont look for missing players as excuse on the sidelines when you are in trouble. We play with what we got. Thats my assumption.

 

[IllegalContact]

the way I see it, it mostly depends on the injuyr and whether the player is going to be returning that season.....

first, I don't see any value in an injured player traveling with the team......I would think thye are better off in the bunker at the stadium on game day with whoever else from the organization is around rehabbing or watching the game

having a player on the sidelines at time (like bledsoe) was probably a benefit to the team, so that's why he was there

if the player is out for the year, then it also depends on the injury and if there is a need or even a want to travel.

there is probably a philosophy on handling that.......

 

[Jackson 2]

It's part of the next man up philosophy, and why it seems to work better here than in other instances. In Brady's case it was a conscious decision Bill made to not have him on the sidelines because he didn't want cameras panning or chatter any time Cassel missed a throw. Didn't even want Cassel to see him lurking in those instances. Wanted him to rely on himself and his coaches. Normally a starting QB who is injured will be around to help, and Brady was behind the scenes, but following a season ender as was the case with Brady (and not Bledsoe) they can become fuel in a controversey or undercut the confidence a team (or the player himself) has in a replacement or even interfere with coaching. After a few weeks when Bledsoe was cleared his presence began to spark one, but he also functioned as the #2. And fortunately for Bill the way Brady is wired competitively wasn't going to allow Drew to shake his self confidence or influence him one way or the other. In Bill's book for the most part if you're out you're out.

In a perfect world I'm sure Belichick like them to publicly disappear entirely until they are cleared to play. That seems to be the one thing Gronk has struggled to come to grips with. They were touting him appearing at some local awards dinner on WEEI earlier this week. But maybe the media missed it or he did because I haven't heard a word about it.

Gronk is pictured on the Names Page (B16) of today's Globe at a charity event Tuesday night. Might be what you were referring to.

 

[PlainOldEd]

I can't be certain but I would guess that Bill is just doing what he thinks is best for the team and gives them the best chance to win.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

It's part of the next man up philosophy, and why it seems to work better here than in other instances. In Brady's case it was a conscious decision Bill made to not have him on the sidelines because he didn't want cameras panning or chatter any time Cassel missed a throw. Didn't even want Cassel to see him lurking in those instances. Wanted him to rely on himself and his coaches. Normally a starting QB who is injured will be around to help, and Brady was behind the scenes, but following a season ender as was the case with Brady (and not Bledsoe) they can become fuel in a controversey or undercut the confidence a team (or the player himself) has in a replacement or even interfere with coaching. After a few weeks when Bledsoe was cleared his presence began to spark one, but he also functioned as the #2. And fortunately for Bill the way Brady is wired competitively wasn't going to allow Drew to shake his self confidence or influence him one way or the other. In Bill's book for the most part if you're out you're out.

In a perfect world I'm sure Belichick like them to publicly disappear entirely until they are cleared to play. That seems to be the one thing Gronk has struggled to come to grips with. They were touting him appearing at some local awards dinner on WEEI earlier this week. But maybe the media missed it or he did because I haven't heard a word about it.

Media all over Gronk with Herald Inside Track articles today on his appearances for charity and last week on his new mansion in Tamper

 

[Tunescribe]

Ever wonder how come none of the injured players (inactive for the game) are present on the sidelines? Ray Lewis hasn’t played in weeks but is there every game (even on road games). Clay Mathews…. – same. I remember seeing Urlacher, as well as many other players present on the sidelines. For some reason, I don’t recall ever seeing an injured Pat on the sidelines…. Gronk is nowhere to be seen (unless you follow him on Facebook/Twitter), Hernandez was never on the sidelines while he was recovering, etc.

Any thoughts? Is this something that BB’s won't allow?

I think BB likes running a pretty tight ship on the sideline. I remember the game at Buffalo a few years ago when I had seats right behind the Pats bench. Late in the game BB called the offense over to the sideline during a timeout and was huddling with them when five or six other players who weren't in uniform (inactives I presume) walked out to hear what he was saying. BB quite angrily yelled at them "Get the (f-word) out of here!"