Monday Night Football - Chiefs at Steelers

[MoLewisrocks]

He's built an inconsistent team. There is so much talent on the Chiefs that their performances boggle the mind.

Which just underscores what the problem has been all along, crappy head coaching, and with the exception of Charlie's brief season there it's been consistently crappy on offense. Cassel is as much a victim of Pioli's persistent mismanagement of the franchise out of the gate as anyone. Not sure if he's toast or salvageable but I have a feeling he'd look a whole lot different if he were still playing on a team Belichick was fielding...

 

[Triumph]

I'll be stunned if Matt Cassel has a job next season.

Hes not a starting NFL QB.

USC QBs stink: Cassel (we know why he rode the bench now) Sanchez, Lienert, Palmer. Palmer is the only decent QB from the litter.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Cassel may even be worse than Sancez. Pioli signing him to that huge contract may go down as one of the worst contracts in the past 10 years.

No, he isn't and it won't. Hunt signing Pioli who signed Haley may go down as one of the worst franchise fiasco's in the past ten years. Alongside Woody promoting Tanny for landing him Mangini whom he backstabbed after the Favre fiasco in favor of Rex and Sanchez...whom he then extended to save face after striking out in the Manning sweepstakes and trading for Tebow to distract the increasingly unhappy fanbase.

Cassel was a competent league average QB, the kind who need reliable talent around them and excellent coaching and scheme behind them. Instead he was thrown to the wolves in 2009 behind a pathetic OL and under manned offense by an incompetent HC with too much ego to manage some system GM's rebuild in transition. In 2010 when reinforcements were drafted and the offense was turned over to Charlie and RAC was brought in to coordinate the defense and Haley was relegated to sideline cheerleader, Cassel took them to the playoffs and went to the pro bowl. Then after Charlie walked because no one can work with meddlesome Haley for long, Pioli sat by and watched the whole effort derailed again by the golf pros ego.

His desperation move of handing the whole team over to RAC after 3 years of drama and bringing Daboll in hoping to replicate something BB believed Daboll wasn't ever capable of running has just put the cherry on the legend of Scott Pioli. He was just one of many guys who can amass accolades on a Belichick staff...but not front a franchise absent him. Pioli was a decent talent evaluator but his only training and experience was in evaluating talent for a genius and his system and schemes. He apparently thought more of himself. Thought he could evaluate talent off the field (coaching) and evaluate equally well for coaches who weren't necessarily geniuses but once worked for one... The accolades some folks amass while with BB tends to skewer their personal perception and world view. Eventually reality bites them in the ass.

Only one who has shown the potential to stand alone front a rebuilding franchise so far is Dimetroff, though it remains to be seen just how far he can take one. And he's different from most of the BB protoges in that he had his own somewhat unique vision of what franchise building entails that was merely fleshed out during his time with Bill. Much like Ozzie. They embraced many of the fundamental philosophies BB's system was based on, but weren't wedded to all of them or to the scheme. Pioli was so wedded to it he reached for the only available coaching candidate with a tennuous tie to it, rather than seeking out an up and coming HC with a stronger and broader background and his own vision. He attempted to replicate what exists here, and that simply cannot be done because of the elite level of the tandem in place here in BB and TFB. Cassel could and should have been his transition QB, the guy who keeps you and your staff competitive enough to remain employed as you rebuild and refine an entire organization and roster. He was never intended to be a guy who carries you kicking and screaming to the promised land. Those guys are rare, and he was merely a place holder until you potentially locate a guy with that potential and have built something he can walk in and contend with.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Hes not a starting NFL QB.

USC QBs stink: Cassel (we know why he rode the bench now) Sanchez, Lienert, Palmer. Palmer is the only decent QB from the litter.

Palmer isn't decent. None of them were elite apart from an elite supporting cast and situation conference wise. Cassel turned out to be the most coachable and sustainable of the lot. He was an average starting NFL QB, which some of you confuse with elite of whom there are few and most franchises never land one and still have to play every season. Cassel was never going to win it all for any team including this one. But he was competent enough and coachable enough to win 11 games here and 10 in KC on Charlie's watch. Even elite would have struggled to win on Haley's watch or what has followed... That team has largely crap coaching and roster management (particularly on offense) to deal with. It's also been plagued with injury and lacking in depth. Pioli allowed Haley to talk him out of cleaning house as thoroughly as he should have and into alienating the handful of veterans they should have hung on to.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

The League must hate these rainy low scoring games like last night and the Hou/Chi game.

 

[Deus Irae]

Cassel may even be worse than Sancez. Pioli signing him to that huge contract may go down as one of the worst contracts in the past 10 years.

Cassel wins that game, probably by 2 scores, if his receivers don't drop ridiculously easy catches, and if the officials don't make obviously terrible calls. Also, Brady would be a dead man if he was playing behind that line.

Cassel's nothing to write home about, but he's a QB who's taken the brunt of the blame for a WR diva who's not elite but thinks he is, an offensive line that's made him gun shy, and a coaching/coordinating carousel that would stunt any QB's development.

 

[PatsDeb]

Cassel wins that game, probably by 2 scores, if his receivers don't drop ridiculously easy catches, and if the officials don't make obviously terrible calls. Also, Brady would be a dead man if he was playing behind that line.

Cassel's nothing to write home about, but he's a QB who's taken the brunt of the blame for a WR diva who's not elite but thinks he is, an offensive line that's made him gun shy, and a coaching/coordinating carousel that would stunt any QB's development.

I feel bad for Cassel, but that INT in OT was God-awful. Of course, the Chiefs should have won the game in regulation as that "push-off" call against the guy who scored a TD was absolutely bogus. Watching that game, I thought that the Chiefs just have an aura of "LOSER" surrounding them. I can't believe Cassel will be there next year.

 

[Deus Irae]

I feel bad for Cassel, but that INT in OT was God-awful. Of course, the Chiefs should have won the game in regulation as that "push-off" call against the guy who scored a TD was absolutely bogus. Watching that game, I thought that the Chiefs just have an aura of "LOSER" surrounding them. I can't believe Cassel will be there next year.

I agree about the INT. It was Favre-esque. It was a poor decision and it was a duck, to boot. My point was more towards what you noted about the so-called push off and Bowe dropping easy passes when his beleaguered QB needs him to help him out.

The game never should have gotten to overtime, because Cassel and the Chiefs should have already won the game. That'll be forgotten. All that will be remembered is that Cassel threw the pick.

 

[JackBauer]

Want to talk bad draft picks? Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson.

 

[PatsDeb]

I agree about the INT. It was Favre-esque. It was a poor decision and it was a duck, to boot. My point was more towards what you noted about the so-called push off and Bowe dropping easy passes when his beleaguered QB needs him to help him out.

The game never should have gotten to overtime, because Cassel and the Chiefs should have already won the game. That'll be forgotten. All that will be remembered is that Cassel threw the pick.

Yes, you are right on all points, but Cassel just CAN'T make that throw (just like Fitzpatrick in our game) and the last dagger will be the one that's remembered. The Chief's kicker also missed a gimme FG in the 2nd half that will be forgotten.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

This Big Ben injury couldn't have come at a worse time. The Steelers and Ravens play 2 times in the next few weeks, probably the only times we can actually benefit from a Steeler win.

 

[lillloyd]

This Big Ben injury couldn't have come at a worse time. The Steelers and Ravens play 2 times in the next few weeks,

I agree